Polenth Yue
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1 hour ago, Nika Talaj said:
If there were any way to turn off hovertext on breedable boxes, maybe they would be reported less often. As it was, I halfway expected to hear plaintive meows from the boxes every time I walked by.
The default for KittyCat boxes is an actual box or special item (not with the picture) and no hovertext. The image and hovertext are options in the menu. It'd take a few menu clicks to revert them and remove the hovertext.
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2 hours ago, Jaylinbridges said:
But if there is NO problem, and you are in no way affected, why is it your business to send AR's to Governance?
I very rarely put in reports. That's because I'm a spirit of the rules person, so I don't report as long as it doesn't appear to be causing a problem and isn't at risk of escalating. I've found plenty of examples in the former category, where they were technically over the limit, but clearly as pets in a decorated house. I don't draw attention to those. The limit could be a bit higher without causing major issues, in my opinion.
However, the examples in this thread are in the latter category. They're new breeding setups with no signs of the house being in use for other purposes. Many breeders have a hard time sticking to small numbers of pairs, so it's optimistic to assume it'll stay there. It's better that they find out about the rules now, before they go full horse house.
In the end, I'm a cynical pessimist, and you're never going to persuade me that I should trust that people will do the right thing and it won't end up with breedables crammed into every last space.
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7 minutes ago, Kyrie Deka said:
Truly if it mattered much and those scripts threw the lag meter seriously, I highly suspect the Lindens would notice in some way and put a stop to it without need for any one of us to report it. And if not, if it isn't a real barn burner for the Lindens then it feels like it shouldn't be for me.
That isn't how it works. If you don't report a problem with a region, it'll just stay broken. They need people to help out and let them know when there are problems or things that will become problems. They wouldn't have created the rules if these things were not becoming problems.
I'm not a fan of trying to shame people for caring about their stuff in Second Life. It's okay to care about things that are not life-threatening. That includes wanting a region where we have a virtual house to run smoothly, to not get randomly teleported home, and other things like that. I hit an instant ban/teleport orb during the hunt and it messed up my viewer to the point of needing a clean install. Which won't kill me, but I'd rather not.
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17 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said:
Are there options on any of the homes (I am asking about the Treehouses in particular) to "not rez the home at all", thereby reserving the LI for using in a skybox, etc.?
You have to use one of the provided houses, but the land impact for those houses isn't taken from your parcel allowance. So it makes no difference to what you have available to use.
EDIT: I didn't see Abnor's reply when I posted and can't delete, but if one answer is good, twenty are better!
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Treehouses are the new fantasy house style! So cozy cottages, only up high and giving maximum garden space. That confirms one of the things they were working on. There's still the suspiciously theme-sized covered area and a few other random working regions that might be something.
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They'd been working on a new Victorian island, but that seems to have halted whilst the other stuff goes on. It's just south of Merrymount.
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When people talk about the group, it is almost always Bellisseria Citizens (founded by Gingir Ghoststar) unless otherwise stated.
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The issue they're always going to have is they don't have time to create and maintain a series of very complex rules, so they set a simpler rule that'll cover it and be usable. That means they won't test every breedable to see how many can be placed without any issues and set numbers for that specific type. They aren't going to enforce rules that say selling is okay as long as there isn't more than one customer at a time for a total duration of ten minutes per day. Or that it's fine if the business doesn't turn a profit. Or if profits are below a certain threshold. These things would be terrible to assess and maintain.
It's not terrible to have different areas for different things. I decorate in the home, have a shop on mainland, and keep the breedables to a friend's region. It's not bad to live on the mainland or a private region. It's the best option if someone wants more freedom.
Anyway, someone was complaining in chat that a friend's breedables got returned, so it is being enforced.
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13 hours ago, Jaylinbridges said:
And all the pets roaming around, animesh and otherwise, actually do cause lag, but are still allowed in Belli.
In visiting all the released houses, I didn't see many items that were genuinely moving as far as the server is concerned. Most use movement that is handled by the client (phantom rotation, texture animation, real animations for animesh, particles), stuff that needs a simple script (faces are made visible/invisible to give the impression of movement) or only move on touch/sit. When people do put out ones that really roam, they keep the numbers down, because they're decor and it'd be weird to have a hundred of them. For roaming animesh, it's also because there's not enough land impact for many of them. This isn't a big area causing server lag.
Not that all breedables cause it either, but the horse houses were a problem, so the rules changed. It'd also be hard to argue that a bare house with only breedables isn't commercial (and if looks aren't an issue, mainland would be better for that anyway... they could set up the shop on the same parcel).
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Here are the stats as promised. I did this by wandering rather than lists. I visited every released region. I did the ranch theme twice at the beginning and end. Other themes once, with some spot visits to prime areas (like coastal locations) when I was getting the last few. So areas I searched earlier probably have more out now.
Ranch: 155
Houseboat: 136
Stilt: 105
Traditional: 90
Log: 89
Victorian: 87
Fantasy: 36
Camper: 33
Newbrooke: 30
Sakura: 22
Chalet: 16
Specials: 2 (BBB and Auction)Total: 801
The order they were visited in was ranch, fantasy, victorian, sakura, traditional, log, stilt, houseboat, newbrooke, camper, chalet, ranch (second sweep).
Mostly, the list is as expected. Areas with more residents had more candy. The current hot new thing (ranches) had the best haul. The one that stands out as different to last year is newbrooke didn't have a lot, especially as I visited near the end when the most buckets would be out.
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I hit 800. I took some stats about where I found them, but it's sleep time first. The batcat is mine though!
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They're KittyCats, which are breedables. The ones with the cardboard back are kittens in boxes, so they're not active breedables and not covered by the rules (as I understand it... they're just in storage in that state). The ones with the hovertext and an age are active and way more than is allowed. The flat version is just a low prim model for people who don't want the full cats roaming about. Which almost always means it's a breedable farm, as people with pets want to see their cats.
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5 hours ago, Evangeline Arcadia said:
I've not ever found that search works like this. Things only tend to appear in area search for me when I'm within about 50-80 meters, regardless of draw distance. Is there some other setting to check?
It's usual for objects that don't rez until you're close, which is how the buckets have been designed. For the big numbers, there's no getting around needing to search. Even if you use area search or a finder hud, you're still going to have to move around each region and visit most regions. You also can't move too quickly, because things need to load.
Last year, I saw various people shoot above me at full fly speed and then complain in chat that there were no more buckets and they'd searched everywhere three times. I was still on my first round of searching and found all the buckets they'd missed. This is a tortoise and hare game in that respect. Things that make you go fast might seem like a good idea, but you miss too much and don't get the numbers, so it's the tortoise who gets the bat cats.
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4 hours ago, Leora Greenwood said:I hope you are right in that a new theme is on the horizon but I think, given the unpopularity of the existing Bellisseria fantasy theme, a new fantasy theme is unlikely. Or, I hope it is unlikely.
The point isn't thinking the new theme will be fantasy. The glimpses we've seen don't look fantastical in any way. It's that they've also got copies of the current fantasy regions online to work on them. Which implies there might be an update to fantasy. My guess would be new house styles as the most likely addition.
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People are talking about it less on the forums, but that doesn't reflect inworld. People are chatting in groups and I know they're visiting my house (I see the "sales" on the gift and I get IMs). Keep in mind a lot of the extra chat on the forums was due to issues in the previous years, which have mainly been removed by going over to tier prizes. That means people can get on and enjoy it.
I'm competitive in the sense that I want to get all the candy and the last prize, but I don't miss the whole top ten thing. It's meant I could take time off at the start to get my gift ready. I've also done more other Hallowe'en rides, walks and hunts. This is a much nicer setup this year.
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32 minutes ago, diamond Marchant said:
Getting the final boopie may take a loooong time as some form of in region search is required. Do we even know if 800 bukkits have been rezzed?
No official confirmation, but I hit 400+ from searching regions and have about half the themes left to go. 800+ is a reasonable estimate.
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In addition to the things mentioned, you need a good tree structure for your inventory. Folders in folders. Anytime a folder gets loads of items, it's time to split it up more. It will eventually stop loading probably if it's too flat and can stop you from logging in.
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On the buckets that had been saying they were busy, I checked all the ones I found today and every single one had been fixed... even the one I found late last night. Could be that everyone is really quick on fixing them or the rolling restarts might have reset them. So now might be the time to check the ones you know were down.
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1 hour ago, Love Zhaoying said:
Personally, if I had THAT type of problem, I would change my parcel security to use a "whitelist". Nobody NOT on the list could access the parcel at all.
I am sure someone will reply if this is not an option with Bellisseria homes. 🙂
Not for the whole house... but nothing stopping someone adding security to furniture to only allow group. If someone is really concerned that random people might sit on sex furniture with them when they're afk, this is the solution. Not an extreme ban list causing issues for everyone out exploring who clip the corner of the parcel.
You could also consider having some furniture that is single person and PG for when you want to afk, like a nice armchair or something.
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35 minutes ago, Cinnamon Mistwood said:
I have had to re-rez one of my 3 buckets because it stopped responding to clicks.
As of yesyerday, I haven't had any visitors to any of my buckets. I guess they'll need to be on the list to be found.
People wandering will find most buckets (that aren't hidden under a bush in the back garden or in your toilet) but it takes time. In previous years, I've only finished my first sweep of all the regions close to the end. There are also fewer people aiming for the top prize, so you won't get the hundreds of clicks. But it'd be a surprise if nobody found them before the end.
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Starting to see some hoot boopies out at houses (the 400+ prize). No bat cats yet!
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It could be a speed thing. I'm walking/flying, so I always move off the parcel before going anywhere else.
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Mine has updated when I step off the parcel with no scripts. I've not had any fail to register. I have found one dead bucket and a few decoys, so not everything that's bucket-shaped is an active bucket.
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1 hour ago, Esther Bunny said:
What is the prize if you do collect all the candy? A free Subscription to LL Home would be way cool 🥰
The prizes are the little toy critters. The notecards that came with the HUD and bucket should explain it in more detail.
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When it comes to activity, fantasy (pre treehouse) had more candy buckets than the other quieter themes. The forum tends to focus on fantasy, but that misses the bigger picture. It's not about whether people like dark green and crystals. Newbrooke, chalets and sakura don't have these things and had fewer candy buckets.
Those themes are pretty different to each other, but what links them together is that they're all neither mainstream American houses or American tropical/rich dream houses. Those tend to be the areas where themes do best, because it hits a large group of customers. Newbrooke is an interesting case study here, because it is an American style, but not one most people live in and not exactly the luxury house people expected. The sort of modern houses people wanted were the fancy ones with the curved edges and glass, not repurposed shipping containers for basic housing. The theme started out popular despite that, but it didn't last.
Which isn't to say that smaller niche themes shouldn't be created, as those hit a wider range of customers (I would pay for less tier if fantasy didn't exist and have held off on upgrading to premium plus). But it does have implications for future development. It means you're unlikely to get your science fiction Mediterranean French castle English cottage hobbit hole when current themes have space. Themes that aren't too different to current popular themes are more likely.
What I hope is we'll see other additions to current themes. Cottages in chalets would be a way around that request, without having to do a whole new theme.