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  1. This is an astute observation.

    My theory is that those of us remaining from the first few year of SL are only here still because we have business interests in SL. So we are far too busy trying to earn money to play dress up with our avatars. Maybe for the first few years we get involved and make an effort, but after a while it just becomes a job and there are always a hundred and one more important things on the todo list


  2. Perrie Juran wrote:


    Porky Gorky wrote:


    steeljane42 wrote:

    My bet is on a typical coil whine. Not the very rare issue at all. In fact, most of GPU manufacturers don't even consider this as an issue. Do you have a windows 7 by any chance? If so, do a "windows experience index" test, if it's what I think, then card would do exactly same noises during the GPU test phases. I have 670 too, it's making the same noises, but only when I'm logging to SL, on "loading world" part. Or if I reach some crazy 300fps in some old game (if I forgot to limit those via vsync). Had 580 before, it was making same noises as well. 480 before that was 100% silent though.

    No, definitely not coil whine, I have experienced that before on cards and this was way more louder and a different sort of sound.;

    Luckily I have now resolved the problem. I did not want to RMA the card because I did not want to be without it. So I went to the shop, bought an identical card. This cost me £385 which is ridiculous considering I bought the original card for £300 online. Come home fitted the new card, works fine, put the pig squealing card in the box, took it back to the shop, told them the story as outlined in the OP and got my money back.
    All in all a good day's deception,

    The new card has some coil wine when running SL, but nothing out of the ordinary so I am now happy.

    Thanks to everyone who posted!

    Are you saying that you pretended the card you were returning was the one that you bought at the shop???????

    If so, that SUCKS.

    Yeah, brick and mortar stores are generally more exspensive (and some I might agree are over priced), but there is a reason for this.  They have a physical presence that costs a lot more than a warehouse with endless shelves.  They also can offer greater added value service.  Like you didn't have to hasssle with an RMA.

    I can't remeber if you ever have, but if you ever post again about someone in SL trying to take advantage of you as an SL Merchant, I'll be sure to point you back to this thread.

     

    It wasn't a small time or independent trader, it was the largest computer component supplier in the country. I could have gone to a small shop and paid less for the card (as there was always a risk my plan would fail and I would not be refunded) but I deliberately went to the conglomerate so I could "stick it to the man". Although the man wont be sticky for long as the shop will just RMA it themselves and resell it as new or refurbished. 

    You will not find me (as Porky or any other account I sell through) complaining on these forums of people taking advantage of me, although it has happened hundreds of times in the last 9 years. What you will find, is me consistently telling other merchants that they need to accept the fact that they will probably get ripped off in SL and that they need to roll with the punches and accept it as a consequence of doing business here.

    The same is applicable to RL business. What I did was one of the oldest tricks in the book. Companies factor in a waste value when projecting their turnover and expect and account for people like me ripping them off. 

    I get your point, and why you chose to lecture me, but you can save your breathe. If I can get a free meal at the expense of big business then I am going to take that meal and go back for seconds and thirds as well.

     


  3. steeljane42 wrote:

    My bet is on a typical coil whine. Not the very rare issue at all. In fact, most of GPU manufacturers don't even consider this as an issue. Do you have a windows 7 by any chance? If so, do a "windows experience index" test, if it's what I think, then card would do exactly same noises during the GPU test phases. I have 670 too, it's making the same noises, but only when I'm logging to SL, on "loading world" part. Or if I reach some crazy 300fps in some old game (if I forgot to limit those via vsync). Had 580 before, it was making same noises as well. 480 before that was 100% silent though.

    No, definitely not coil whine, I have experienced that before on cards and this was way more louder and a different sort of sound.;

    Luckily I have now resolved the problem. I did not want to RMA the card because I did not want to be without it. So I went to the shop, bought an identical card. This cost me £385 which is ridiculous considering I bought the original card for £300 online. Come home fitted the new card, works fine, put the pig squealing card in the box, took it back to the shop, told them the story as outlined in the OP and got my money back. All in all a good day's deception,

    The new card has some coil wine when running SL, but nothing out of the ordinary so I am now happy.

    Thanks to everyone who posted!

  4. I've got a 1000w PSU as I plan to stick a GTX 680 in there next month, so definitely enough juice. After sticking my head inside the tower I pinned the sound down to the GPU. I stuck my fingers into both GPU fans and stopped them for 2 seconds and that did not stop the sound so I guess the GPU fans are not the issue. 

    In the last half hour I have tried running 4 simultaneous instances of Firestorm. To start with the squeal was loud/ but after about 10 mins  the sound consistently lessened. Possibly it just needs to be worn in? Only had the card for 3 days 

    I hope running 4 instances of FS is not my permanent fix :matte-motes-big-grin:


  5. Lasher Oh wrote:

    I'm with you there all the way Czari. In fact going back further, I confess to actually missing v 1.23, since then every official LL viewer since then has been a down hill race to the bottom.

     

    I still use v1.23 every day, in fact I have 3 av's logged in on it right now. I have different businesses on different plots around the place so like to leave an av above the main stores to show the creator is alive and active and I can use 1.23 to answer q's and do basic stuff. It is such a light viewer and I can run multiple instances of it without it effecting my performance at all.

    ETA - I don't know if you can still download v1.23 but if any oldbies want a copy v1.23 for nostalgia purposes I am happy to send.


  6. Nyll Bergbahn wrote:

    Maybe it is fan noise but the issues I mentioned occurred with a GTX 670 so a possibility too. I've sent Porky a couple of links to read..For those who don't know, folding is where you use spare time/capacity on your home computer(s) for medical research (some take it very seriously).

    A monitoring program such as OpenHardwareMonitor will soon tell him if the fans are screaming at high revs!

     


    Thanks Nyll :smileyhappy:


  7. Madelaine McMasters wrote:

    I'll guess this is an OpenGL driver issue. EVE runs on DirectX.

    Maybe there's a newer driver available?

    ooooh this I had not considered. In fact everythiing else I've tested it against has been DirectX. I am also using the latest driver.  I shall try rolling back on the driver when I get home and also test in other OpenGL applications,


  8. Nyll Bergbahn wrote:

    It's possible this high pitched whine is due to a vibrating inductor. I read one complaint where the person said it was only occurring when folding and the clock speed was way above the set boost clock. Normal gaming was fine. Can also happen at high FPS apparently. Perhaps SL is also causing this.

    Coil whine is another possible cause but I don't think this is what you describe.

    I suggest you contact the manufacturer (or supplier) as you may have to RMA it.

    This is possible, the card is overclocked. Would a vibrating inducter cause any damage long term?

    I agree that it's not a coil whine, i've experienced that issue before and this is quite different.

  9. Got a new GPU, a 4GB GTX 670.

    On the whole it is very quiet and is housed in an awesome cooling tower. When I run benchmark tests and play top end games I can hear the fans increase in intensity but that is to be expected and nothing to worry about. However when I log into SL the GPU suddenly starts squealing like a pig that's got it's testicles trapped in the sty door. I can literally minimize the viewer window and it stops, maximize it and it starts again, Firestorm produces the loudest squeal. V3 it's about half the volume. It doesn't matter what my graphics settings are in either viewer, changing them does not affect the squeal. 

    I have tried to duplicate this squealing sound by running a multitude of programs to push my GPU and FPS to the max but nothing other than SL viewers cause the problem.

    Last night I was involved in an epic battle in EVE, over 800 ships in the system and the GPU made no unexpected sounds as a result. An hour later I am standing 1000m in the air in SL with nothing to render other than myself and the prim I am sat on and it's non stop squealing.

    So anyone have an idea as to why only SL causes this problem?

    Thanks

  10. I definitely don;t think SL is perceived as being a vacation place. It's general perceived by the masses as being **bleep**. The reason LL only manage to retain such a tiny fraction of their total signups is because their new user orientation is atrocious. SL is a complex world and the new user orientation needs to be intelligent and supportive, hand holding new users for as long as possible until they are confident enough to break out on their own and more importantly, get out their credit card and sign up.

  11. I am so completely out of touch with what SL is like nowadays. 2005 to 2010 I had my finger on the pulse so to speak, but after I stopped working full time here in 2010 and got a proper job I just could never find the time to go out and explore and to get involved in SL. 3 years later and I have barely left my lands in that time other than quick visits to customers. Despite this out of touchness, I still keep plodding along selling content so my lack of SL knowledge has not affected business it would seem and I keep up to date on technical developments on the forums. I still spend about 30 to 40 hrs a week working on SL content but most of the time my avatars are sat idle as 95% of my design process is done outside of SL. That's not to say I don't allow myself recreation time, however because SL is work...when I finished work it never occurs to me to do something recreational in SL, I just shut my viewers and spend my play time somewhere else.

     

    So to summarise that rather long winded answer to your simple question....Nope, Porky don't party much :smileyhappy:

  12. Good post Pam and it is something that I have been considering recently after seeing a discussion about it somewhere else on the forums. I am not prepared to build only to RL scale unless there was a clear indication that the majority of users are using a more realistic camera angle. However I am about to release a new mesh build that is quite big and shrinking the overall build by 25% significantly reduces the LI. So I am considering putting 2 versions of the build in the box along with details on adjusting the camera angle. 

    Something else I am considering is placing 2 versions of the build in the demo area, one with standard SL proportions and the other RL proportions. I would also place a large poster with instruction on how to change the camera angle and the difference in LI between the 2 versions. I figured if customers could actually see the 2 versions of the build stood next to each other, play about with their cameras and explore both builds and appreciate the LI saving then it may convert more people to the cause.


  13. Czari Zenovka wrote:

    In many cases merchants who are copybotted have no idea they have been, especially those who sell hundreds-thousands of items.  The only way such a merchant even knows one or more of their items has been copybotted is 1) if another SL resident tells them  2) if they are out and about in SL and just happen to come across the copybotted item or 3) if they see it on the MP.

    In my opinion a lot of copybotters choose large merchants, perhaps because they are known designers and it is believed that a copybotted item from them would sell better than one from an obscure, relatively unknown merchant.  Perhaps it is exactly
    because
    merchants who sell a LOT of items are so busy creating and doing the myriad things necessary to get the items in their store & MP plus any marketing they might do that these larger merchants are targeted; the rationale being they are too busy to notice.

    Many merchants I know, especially those for whom their SL earnings are either their entire RL income or a great portion of it, rarely leave their sims due to being extremely busy.  It is not easy to earn that kind of money in SL.  Even if they did...the probability of just "happening" to run into one of their items that was copybotted is slim given how large SL is.  Trying to keep track of one's items that another has copied & has for sale on the MP is also extremely time-consuming.

    Every merchant that I know who finds out their item/s are being copybotted immediately file DMCAs.

    It is easier than ever to find copybotted versions of your work. With so much of SL's commerce being driven through the MP, that is where thieves predominantly sell, especially compared to a few years ago. All a merchant has to do is run a MP search for keywords relevant to their business then sort the results by Age: Newest First. Do that every day and it only takes a few minutes to skim through items added in the last 24 hrs that match your keyword searches.

    The added bonus to this is it also allows you to keep fully up to date on what products your competitors are releasing on the MP.


  14. Perrie Juran wrote:

    LL knows that people build things composed of prims, textures, scripts, etc, created by others.  This is a fairly common practice so I would not worry about getting in trouble with LL over this.

    The alien is right. In the past thieves have often set the root prims to creators other than themselves, in fact it is one of the oldest tricks in the book. Allot of content that I had taken down showed some of the more popular megaprim creators such as Research Project and Winter Vetura as the creators. Megaprims could not be copybotted themselves but the prims were freely available to anyone to use full perm. I think this is a non issue.

  15. When flagging was first introduced I had some bars and pubs that were taken down because they were listed under General instead of moderate, so I think this rule has been around for a long time. Chances are this rule has allways been in place, it just that LL don't fully moderate the MP listings themselves, they rely on their users to. So chances are someone, maybe a competitor, or just some nob head came along and flagged your listings because they are sad little people with nothing better to do with their lives :matte-motes-big-grin: 


  16. Medhue Simoni wrote:

    How can a company sell the same dang thing and throw a different number on it? I could pay a coder to make those changes.

    It's change for the sake of change driven by the need for employees to constantly "improve" their products in order to justify their ongoing employment. As the rate of technological development and product development increases across the board we are coerced motivated into keeping pace with these sometimes unnecessary "improvements" in order to stay up to date and current. It seems to becoming ever more prevalent in my life it's really getting on my nerves now!

    mini rant over

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