Sling Trebuchet

A lot of people are barely scratching a living in SL. That's why stipends are useful. Vist my latest sim - Itchycoo Park http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM3zyq4D6Ig

Where's my stipend?

Where can I find the sexors?

*Edited for harassment*

Venus Petrov wrote: ... I do not know why someone would want to track me or my location (booorring). Anyone I care about is free to ask where I am and I will answer. It's the ones that you don't care about or even know that perhaps might be more relevant. Maybe you've never been stalked. People's curiousity about the business of others can be insatiable. The Net is an amplifier for people's oddities. Inside that, SL is like a pressure cooker for emotions.

Disable all media is a way of preventing someone from aggregating data by IP / Viewer / Platform / Cookie. It does not help in any way whatsover to prevent tracking of avatar name / location. That sort of tracking can be as invasive as alt-outing. It applies to everyone - not just people who might have alts that they regard as private. Right now, RZ - and other systems - are harvesting data that includes name and location. Anyone with the ability to run a few queries can track people and their company. Preumably, we will have to wait a while before enough people realise this and we have another month or so of high drama and peoples' opinions and enjoyment of SL getting rightly poisoned. If LL need to be told that this is a problem, then nothing has changed in there. LL seem to do the absolute minimum that they think they can get away with - if they move at all.

@Dilbert A little jazz haiku: Turn off media? Musicians breath circular Do they suck or blow?

Qie Niangao wrote: ........ And yeah, it has everything to do with LL's handling of "Redgate". If the Lab had promptly permabanned the scammer and bricked the devices, folks might believe that the policy measures had enough teeth to deter future large-scale abuses. That, however, is not what happened, and nobody will trust hidden in-world streams again. That ! ( Because "This!" is sooooooo last forum.)

My recent comment in the mega-JIRA:- In a Net where RL people access content, a ban on harvesting information RL information without consent is appropriate. In a virtual world, where avatars access content, the ban on non-consented harvesting must include harvesting of information at the avatar level. An extract from one of the many Forum threads http://community.secondlife.com/t5/General-Discussions/You-are-being-tracked-in-SL-by-third-parties-and-there-is/td-p/515731/page/11 ============================================================================== So Adams, if I understand you right... Some random guy in your town has set up a system It's got scanners all over town When someone passes a scanner, it gets their name and feeds it back to the guys website People can log in to the website and get answers to: (pretending that Adams Scarman is your RL name) Where is Adams Scarman right now ? List the places where Adams Scarman was over the past two days. List the people who are in the same place as Adams Scarman List the people who were with Adams Scarman in Joe's Bar last night List the people who were with Adams Scarman after he left the bar and up to 8am the following morning Where did he spend the night? Who was with him? This system exists in your RL town??? And you're cool with that?? ================================================================================== If people thought that such a system existed in RL, there would be war. Why should such a system be accepted by avatars in SL?

Boy Lane wrote: What's your problem Brits? It even originated from you guys, and now complain? http://www.thefreedictionary.com/honored Spell check was not the topic of this posting, just in case [Middle English, from Old French, from Latin.] We have moved on from there. Do try to keep up.

Cole Sear: I see animated smileys. Malcolm Crowe: In your dreams? [Cole shakes his head no] Malcolm Crowe: While you're awake? [Cole nods] Malcolm Crowe: Animated smileys like, in forums? In websites? Cole Sear: Posting like regular people. They don't see each other. They only see what they want to see. They don't know they're animated smileys. Malcolm Crowe: How often do you see them? Cole Sear: All the time. They're everywhere.

I've used the baby spider monkey avvie a few times. My strangest one is a Predalien (sort of Predator/Alien mix). Big deal, you might say. But ... I leave my normal AO running.... If Alien or Predator had walked like that, those movies would not have done do well. Ash: You still don't understand what you're dealing with, do you? Perfect organism. Its structural perfection is matched only by its hostility and its sexy walk. I find it disturbing to watch the transition for my normal human avatar to one that requires crunching. I tend to look away and hope that the assets servers manage to deliver all the parts. I have an alt that is a cardboard robot. It does nothing but build cardboard stuff. Its entire life and conversation is cardboard-centric. I find it better to use an alt. When I log in, I am that robot.

Baeric Constantine wrote: That reminds of an english comedian.... A man, Mr Smith, is in a council meeting... and he wants to know know from Councilman Jones, what are they going to do about a pond at the end of his garden, that is full of disease. The Councilman answers, "Mr Smith, we have decided what we are going to do... we will give you two ducks..." Sounds like LL have given us two ducks.... The idea of LL actually giving a duck is novel.

I wish to protest in the strongest terms that all the posts above are On Topic. Just stop it ok? Where are the mods? This is a total digrace.

Indigo Mertel wrote: Gypsy Quixote wrote: What are you going to do about RedZone? Seriously, the silence is deafening. This has been addressed already. Check this: http://is.gd/ukBQDq Only partly addressed. Apparently, TOS / CS has been changed recently. No announcement of this, either read-only on the old blog, or in this new blog No prompt to agree to the changes on login. Maybe the changes are so minor as not thought to have any effect on anybody? I understand that in-world scanners for RZ and other systems continue to harvest data on residents http://community.secondlife.com/t5/General-Discussions/You-are-being-tracked-in-SL-by-third-parties-and-there-is/td-p/515731 The silence is deafening.

Vick Forcella wrote: I wanted 600 posts... But I'm very happy LL plugged this hole temporarily. Go for 666 posts.. That triggers the Four Data Harversters of the Apocalypse.

"The Lindens, a while back, said they had stopped counting votes." So? We didn't stop counting them in 'that' JIRA. We kept Voting despite what the Lindens said. The new JIRA -without-votes might as well call the count mechanism "Floop" rather than "Watch". The term used is meaningless. It will simply be a count of people who became aware of some issue and took the trouble to press the 'Floop' link to signal their interest.

RZ has not been removed "Soft Linden: We asked for removal by no later than today of all zF Red Zone functionality that discloses any alternate account names. That is, even if consent is asked, the service may not act on the consent. In addition, we asked for removal by no later than Friday of the interface for and any remaining implementation of the zF Red Zone consent mechanism because it does not comply with our policies. If these updates are not made, we will take appropriate steps to remedy the violations." Note that this does not mean that the data harvesting is nuked. The in-world scanners will continue to log name/IP pairs to the off-world database. @LL.. What will happen when the alt lists are delivered from database to web-browsers outside of SL? Will LL at that stage nuke the scanners? What about, for instance, - Remote Disclosure of avatar location? - Remote Disclosure of names in the company of an avatar - Remote Disclosure of names of avatars at a location - DIsclosure of avatar movement history All of the above is available by query from the RZ database, which is still being fed data by the in-world scanners. Other networks may exist. Other newtorks may be created. It is clear for the RZ sales that there is strong demand for systems that disclose information about others. Will we have to go through a month plus of drama for each sich system as it becomes detected?

Speaking of the Jive forums...... I don't see an obvious link to the archive.

I may have the very dubious honour of being the first one to be moderated in the new blog/forum. This might be fame of a sort. Can I be in FIC now? I did notice that the warning comes as a PM within the forum software. When I open the PM, there are two options on the right-hand side. -- I can become friends with the sender (moderator) -- I can ignore the sender (moderator) Hmmmmmmm.... /me waves shyly at the moderator I would strongly encourage everyone to bear in mind that what might have been unremarked in the old forums is no longer advisable here. Use bold if you must for emphais of a cogent point. Do try to avoid CAPS LOCK RAGE If it all gets to much, and emotions are running way too high, then use the phrase "edited for vulgarity" in place of a word that you should not use. That way 1. Everyone will know how you feel 2. You'll save the mods a heap of trouble. I think this would be a good compromise solution.

Hey Torley ! "@Sling Oh, we have a Community Feedback section. **Only uploaded images may be used in postings**://secondlife.i.lithium.com/i/smilies/16x16_smiley-happy.gif" border="0" alt=":smileyhappy:" title="Smiley Happy" />" If we go 'edited for vulgarity moaning and stamping our feet ' there and use "prose so overly extravagant, ornate, or flowery as to break the flow and draw attention to itself", then that bit of our posting can be described as a Purple Passage. PURPLE !!!! Awsome! ETA: OOps! My copy/paste of your smiley came out a bit funny! I just did a drag to select and then copy in Firefox. I'll leave it as it came out for the sake of interrest.

The only "publicly displayed secondlife information." that I want to see is LL demonstrating just an ounce of ethical behaviour. Their silence on this is an absolute disgrace and shame for them. This topic has been boiling for a month. Nothing from SL apart from signs that all they are interested in is avoiding even the merest hint of liability , not matter waht the cost to people or the soul of Second Life. That JIRA mighr be the page download from hell, but it's got a few nuggets. A recent one was particulary good: ========================================================================================= Jazleen Raynier added a comment - 02/Mar/11 12:15 AM What I think is really, really sad here is that LL through their lack of communication, decisions, actions is letting the residents of this wonderful world slowly tear its foundations apart. SL is or was a place where people could come and be who or what they want to be. They could let their imaginations go, be free to run around as a kitty if they want, make things they could only dream about in rl, but now its become a place of suspicion, accusations, distrust, harassment, vengeance, school yard bullying. Its gone from being a place people could relax in from the stresses of rl, where for most people day to day living is stressful enough. And all because somebody, whether it be zFire, or anyone else who makes these kinds of objects, found a hole they could take advantage of. If LL don't do their job and protect its residents it will find, eventually, that it has very few residents left to protect. How many people now go to log onto SL and then stop just before the log in page, suddenly finding themselves feeling stressed before they've even got there, so don't log in and as someone stated earlier there are other virtual worlds out there where this kind of thing is not a problem. I'm pretty sure if all LL has to do is fix a hole that is being abused then they must have the technological know how to be able to do it. In some ways you can't blame zFire for taking advantage. How he went about it is appalling and frankly shows a distinct lack of respect not only for the residents of SL, for LL but also for himself that his skills as a builder have been used to cause people nothing but harm, but he probably didn't look any further than his bank balance when he made it initially, and more than likely never expected people to be so vocal in their disgust at it. As soon as LL realised he'd breached a hole in their world they should have been on it, patched it, without its residents having to resort to this. LL you are tearing the very world you created apart by your inaction. So when you're profits start to fall, the numbers start decreasing, the world becomes quieter, there really is no-one else to blame but yourselves. Nobody denies that anyone who copies another's work without permission, causes grief to people's land for their amusement, should be found and booted from SL, without question..but not at the expense of the thousands and thousands of innocent people who have been and are still being bullied, exposed, humiliated, destroyed. So please, LL you are the owner of a thriving business, if you want it to continue to thrive, do the job that we are paying you to do and fix this damn hole before every SL resident gets sucked into it, and never returns. =============================================================================

RIght now, that JIRA hasn't broken the record for Votes. It must have broken all records for number of comments. LL!! WHo needs Lithium or Blogorums when we have that JIRA item? It carried the most vital bits of SL "listening" while the Blogorums were frozen. Its a hero of SL. A thing of legend. Maybe we should get more Votes on it and go for a double-whammy? Over on SLU , "the" thread is at around 300 pages!! I'm trying to get it to 666 pages - when the end of the daze will happen and the Four Alts of the Apocalypse will ride out to rezz grey goo everywhere. If LL are not actually listening, we might as well have some fun.

In between this and that, I started Twittering - a bit. I'm in shock. Like turning up for a debating society, but finding it's actually a cocktail party - that started hours ago- and it#s fancy dress!

Excellent! Which way to the *edited for vulgarity* moaning and stamping our feet section? Kidding