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    The Second Life Mission Discussion

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    11 hours ago, Rowan Amore said:

    You have the right to discuss your pay with whomever you choose.  It's actually illegal in the US for.them to even have a rule against discussing it.  This might have come about because companies were.making rules and retaliating.

    I didn't know about this change and was excited to hear about it, so I wanted to see when it became the law. Obama signed it into law in 2014 but it's only for federal contractors!!?? Bleh!  4 in 10 contractors are private, so that is much less protection than I'd hoped for.

    The Second Life Mission Discussion

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    Posted · Edited by Kiera Clutterbuck

    Mark Wahlberg, the actor who was paid 1.5 million for the reshoots while Michelle Williams was paid only $1,000, is a great ally for women. He donated his 1.5 million to charity in Williams' name:

    Wahlberg said:  "I 100% support the fight for fair pay and I’m donating the $1.5 million to the Time’s Up Legal Defense Fund in Michelle Williams’ name".

    https://deadline.com/2018/01/mark-wahlberg-michelle-williams-timesup-donation-million-and-one-half-donation-all-the-money-in-the-world-1202242504/

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    The Second Life Mission Discussion

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    34 minutes ago, IGarrett said:

    If you can cite sources and have anything to add to this, then please do it. 

    What did you think about the actresses I posted, describing how they got paid so much less than the men for the same jobs? Some posts mentioned even more actresses who came forward too.

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    The Second Life Mission Discussion

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    10 minutes ago, IGarrett said:

    Okay then. I'm not trying to upset people here, and I do think that I never made any disrespecting comments  when making my points. But I'm sorry if you felt something about what I said, i'll refrain to engage in this topic anymore to avoid that.

    I like how you are concerned about not upsetting people; this shows you care about the feelings of others.

    Please don't stop being curious about this and run away. Believe me, no matter what you say people will get upset around here!  I'm including myself, as I often wonder at a later date why in the world some post would upset me. hehe

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    The Second Life Mission Discussion

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    Deficiencies of the Equal Pay Act and why they need this other law to give it teeth:

    https://www.americanbar.org/advocacy/governmental_legislative_work/priorities_policy/discrimination/the-paycheck-fairness-act/

    Deficiencies of the EPA

    The EPA has proven ineffective in eradicating gender-based wage discrimination for several reasons:

    1. Remedies. The EPA's limited remedies often provide inadequate compensation to make the victim whole and are insufficient to deter future violations of the law by employers who view them as a cost of doing business. 
    2. Interpretations. Judicial interpretations of two of the provisions of the EPA conflict with the clear intent of the law and have weakened its effectiveness. Specifically, courts have adopted a narrow definition of what constitutes a work establishment, and some courts have permitted employers to pay unequal wages to men and women based on factors that are not job-related. 
    3. Class Actions. The EPA’s class action provisions are outdated. At present, it is very difficult to bring EPA lawsuits as class actions because the EPA, adopted prior to the current federal class action rule (FRCP Rule 23), requires plaintiffs to opt in to participate in a class action suit.
    4. Retaliation. The EPA’s prohibition against retaliation only covers employees who initiate a complaint or lawsuit. Conduct leading up to that point is not covered. This is a problem because companies have restrictive policies that penalize employees from disclosing or discussing their salaries with co-workers, which often prevents or deters workers from discovering wage inequities.  
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    The Second Life Mission Discussion

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    4 minutes ago, IGarrett said:

    but the gender-based pay discrimination is based around a man and a woman being in the exact same situation AND EVEN STILL the woman gets paid less because of her gender. In the moment that the hours worked are different, that makes the whole situation different and you can't define that as discrimination.

    The problem in the Equal Pay Act you mentioned where suing is possible, is that people find ways to skirt around it. When bosses want to make more money they can be tricky. Here's an actress I like who made great strides bringing awareness to the problem. For some reshoots she was paid 1000 while her male co-star was paid 1.5 million for the same task! 

    https://www.insider.com/michelle-williams-pay-gap-mark-wahlberg-reshoots-equal-pay-day-2019-4

    Efforts were made inAmerica to add some teeth to the Equal Pay Act with the Paycheck Fairness Act, but it's still not passed:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paycheck_Fairness_Act

     

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    The Second Life Mission Discussion

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    9 minutes ago, Coffee Pancake said:
    21 minutes ago, Kiera Clutterbuck said:

    I'd venture to say it's a much better mission than tracking your every move for advertising purposes, like at Meta.

    Don't assume they don't track our every movement .. they just don't sell the data ...

    Maybe they don't sell it because the only people interested in buying it are psychology majors and they're all broke.

    and "naughty" factors.  hehe

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    The Second Life Mission Discussion

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    1 hour ago, Luna Bliss said:

    Personally, when someone says they have equality as their mission they have my vote! Does everyone think this is an important vision for a virtual world company? How does SL compare to other virtual world companies regarding a mission?

    I'd venture to say it's a much better mission than tracking your every move for advertising purposes, like at Meta.

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    The Second Life Mission Discussion

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    Posted · Edited by Kiera Clutterbuck

    21 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said:

    At the risk of seeming even thicker than I usually do, are we certain it isn't something simplistic such as:

    - More women are generally creative than men

    - Women are more likely to have the required creation tools, due to being more creative

    - Most fashion / avatar stuff is for women, so women are more likely to "want" to create those things

    - Those same things are what sell the most in Second Life, thereby generating the most income

    etc.?

    I'd venture to say we need to include all these factors too in our assessment.

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    The Second Life Mission Discussion

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    While Luna makes a good start on this topic, some clarification might help.

    It's not the small store any resident might open that makes the most money; I'd venture to say that's rare. The big money-makers team up with others where prejudice can play a factor within the group, where preferences come into play when sorting out who gets what benefit. So if nobody really knows the gender of another then perhaps males are not chosen over females to such a degree. Being hired by a company to create a project is another big money-maker where many prefer men in positions of authority or heads of companies and will hire them over a woman-owned company; a woman can earn an advantage here by not revealing her gender, or even by assuming a male avatar. 

    One day, hopefully, women will be seen as competent when in a position of authority. And the good old boy network where people choose those of 'their kind' will be lessened as more women are part of that network too: their preponderance in governments and other positions of authority is much lower at this point in time, giving them a severe disadvantage.

    Until then, SL can be a good equalizer. Perhaps not so in a few other virtual worlds where there is pressure to reveal real life identity.

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    When did you last see a Bellessarian home available?

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    1 hour ago, Leora Jacobus said:

    I do not think it at all "creepy" if the last owner stays in front of the house in the street to see who gets his abandoned parcel. I would perhaps not like if he stayed INSIDE the house. I never do that. I abandon and TP out into the street.

    I get it. It's like the house-hoppers are a kind of community that enjoys letting go of homes and passing them on to others. You like to see who gets the home you let go of, and know the person who let go of theirs for you.

    I like to let go of really good spots at a strange time, hoping that a home-hunter is totally shocked and delighted at finding such a choice spot at an unusual hour.  I've never waited around to see them, but I might do that sometime.

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    Public Chat or IM? Has a Culture Shift in SL Made It Harder to Meet People?

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    4 minutes ago, Bitsy Buccaneer said:

    being unable to get your thoughts together quickly enough to keep up and join in before it's moved on and you're trying to get your thoughts together quickly enough for something else and it all gets increasingly exceedingly exhausting until you can't think straight enough to remember how to make a decent farewell.

    I don't know if this is true for you, but I used to experience what you describe here. I discovered I was thinking too deeply about each thing a person said. There was no need for me to produce symbols and go into poetic mode over every utterance..lol  (making fun of myself a bit here).   You might be talking about feeling ill though, and spacey -- I've got an auto-immune condition where my mind feels foggy frequently, so I understand on that level too.

    Public Chat or IM? Has a Culture Shift in SL Made It Harder to Meet People?

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    Bitsy I have frequently found that those who are the quieter ones, for whatever reason, are more interesting.

    More often than not it seems those who do well in a group know how to put on an act better than those of us who are more introverted.

    Now if all people (whether more introverted or extroverted) become REAL..then that energy can be amazing, even transformative, but this type of experience is so rare.

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