HSHPrincessofCarlisne

Thank you so much, Orwar. Yes, please do... let me know how it goes. I know you can wear the Teegle horses, but all of the carriages I've seen for Teegle require rezzing, whether it's for a horse or a horse avatar. I'm specifically looking for horse and carriage sets that you can just attach and ride without the need to rez anything, like the ones I've mentioned above.

Hello everyone, I'm looking for horse-drawn vehicles that you can attach to your avatar or wear anywhere, without the need to rez a carriage or a horse. I think I've seen just a few over the years, of varying quality but there don't seem to be hardly any at all; quite a few vehicles need rezzing but come with an attachable horse, or need rezzing and has the need to supply your own attachable horse (this usually seems to not work, because these horses are made for riding, not hitching to a carriage) Some vehicles also need rezzing, but seem exclusively designed for horse avatars. The RealHorse Rideable Stanhope Gig and Goddard Buggy from Elite Equestrian are the best ones I've found and the first one that comes to mind; I'm wondering if there are any others like these; horse AND carriage included, attachable and complete with sounds and animations. I've seen sleighs as well; I'm wondering if there are any carriages that are much LARGER or much smaller, but are solely for personal use only, without the need to rez. In fact, the ones I've mentioned often explicitly state DO NOT REZ. Some carriages I've seen can carry up to four passengers and come with two or even four horses. These are always the rezzable variety. Perhaps there are even vehicles that are pulled by animals other than horses! If anybody knows any others and can make recommendations, I would be most thankful and appreciative. Let me know; - Charlotte Sinclair

Thank you so much, Rowan Amore. I was thinking of doing the same, but I was definitely looking for similar items in the very least. Oh, well... the search continues!

Yes, the dress does come in standard sizes as well as being fitted for specific bodies. Those coats I tried on also come in standard sizes and have versions for different bodies too. But they're not made to fit with each other, no matter if I wear a Large with a Large or Medium or Small, or I match Maitreya or a version made for another mesh body with Maitreya, or another mesh body like Belleza or Slink. The elusive coat in question just seems to fit my dress without any issues, which is why I'm looking for it. If I can find one that's very similar and it fits, of course I'll be happy to consider it. I'm thinking of getting that Addams coat in black only; at least then I'll be able to wear it with my dress in black without the clipping being too noticeable, but it's far from ideal.

Thank you, blaireberry! Those coats you mentioned are quite similar to the one in the original picture I posted and I spent a bit of time trying on the demos, but I have issues with clipping. Unless I wear it in black with a black dress, or find another very close color match, the clipping is very obvious. I've tried it with my most worn dresses and other favourite outfits, but it clips very noticeably in multiple points. I've tried wearing all the different set sizes for each of those two coats and in different colours, but I haven't found anything that fits without some clipping. I'm not sure Addams has any dresses or any other items that fit those coats other than the matching items shown above. The reason why I'm resolved about finding that coat is because it seems to fit the dress I wear most often; albeit some variants by different creators. I don't know if it does actually fit or how they made it seem like it does in the photo, but if I can find it, there's a chance I can wear it with those dresses in that shape which I own, and perhaps other dresses and outfits too.

Okay; I sent a notecard to the creator on two occasions only to find my IMs capped on several occasions. I'm not sure if I even received a message back from the creator but I think it was possible. I'm not sure what to do now, which is why I usually turn to the forums - Someone usually recognizes the item at some point or has a good knowledge of very helpful things to do if nobody does. If anybody can help me out, I would be very grateful.

Hello everyone; I was looking for my favourite dress in more colours and I came across this one in plaid: https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/MYNX-Cowl-Neck-Tank-Dress-Brown-Plaid/7781264 However, I saw in the other image that it was paired with a gorgeous long coat and I was wondering what it is and where to find it! I may be wrong, but as far as I could tell, MYNX didn't offer this coat in their store. I already have the dress in many other variations - it seemed like the perfectly fitted coat to be able to pair with all of them! If anybody can help me identify it, I would be most appreciative. - Charlotte Sinclair

Thank you so much everyone for once again posting some genuinely insightful answers. Let me address some of your answers once more: Thank you, Ceka. I did originally post a thread in the Lifestyles and Relationships section as I was looking for a partner in particular. I still am but now I'm also looking for friends and just people in general to meet. I'm interested in this topic of discussion in general; I want to see where certain people and avatar types tend to gravitate towards and why - it's not necessarily a lifestyle thing anymore or a relationship I'm solely interested in. I'm not looking for focused advice on how to make friends; I just want to know where all the people whom I've described tend to be, and how I can increase my likelihood of meeting them, so I can better enjoy my time in Second Life. I've provided a link to the original thread I made a few months ago in this one if anybody wants to take a good look at it and build upon its context. Here I'm not necessarily looking for one singular avatar type in particular, (short men, cute boys, etc.) but as far as male human avatars go, anything, absolutely anything other than those brawny, burly bodies you see in almost every guy in every place. If they exist, they must be somewhere, even if on the periphery. At the time there seemed to be more replies to threads in this section than in the other sections, so I thought I would try my luck and put it here. The more quality answers I get, the better. Haha, Arduenn 😄 That is certainly an option; I have occasionally helped newcomers get better quality items for their avatar before, but every noob still has been a rare chance encounter for me; it's more of a matter of where and how to find said noobs. If you know a place where I can find plenty of noobs or how I can increase my likelihood of encountering one, do let me know because I don't know where they go or how to find them. I'm wondering if there are any shops, any particular brands or shopping locations they tend to gravitate towards, or any other places they would be, logically speaking or otherwise. From my experience, they certainly don't tend to be in those "newcomer friendly" hubs like NCI Kuula; those are often filled with residents who have been in SL for 9-12 years again, perhaps reminiscing about their time "back in the good old days" and who tend to have more detailed, much taller avatars... not necessarily mesh, but not often that basic and noob-like. Quite a few of them are also of that buff-guy stock and character far more often than not. As far as I've seen, there are only a handful of places where women ARE "giants" and an incredibly vast number of places where women are shorter. We're like unicorns; we're even rarer than those male avatars who don't fit the hyper-masculine strong man paradigm, who are still common enough to have multiple occasional chance encounters with, but not ubiquitous enough to actively search for with much chance of success, unlike more established types, such as femboys, anime characters, gay men or possibly even people of certain nationalities (it's easier to find people from England or Germany than people who don't have avatars that aren't even slightly muscular) In my regular time in Second Life, I have been to a relatively diverse number of places from airports, music lounges, roleplay towns to gay clubs and BDSM places where submission can often be marked by a desire for physical contrast between dominant and submissive, male and female (or otherwise) - it's almost always the same. Shorter women and taller, muscular men everywhere, with very few exceptions, little variation. "Trend" or otherwise, it's seemingly unchanging. I had the privilege of being in a close-knit group community of presumably Second Life's tallest female avatars (with the exception of giantesses) where shorter guys were adored and our height was a source of celebration, pride, power and sisterhood, not something to be questioned, ridiculed, shunned or gossiped about, either overtly or covertly. Still incredibly tall by usual Second Life standards, I was often the shortest among all of the women there and I have never again met anybody else in any place or community who were as tall and proud as we were. I felt at home, at ease and welcomed for who I was at heart. But as soon as I stepped out of that place and spent time doing things I enjoy in the mainstream, "normal" side of SL, I faced questioning, disapproval, discrimination, pernicious disbelief and a lack of understanding. I adjusted my height so that I would look more realistic and less likely to shock and make people uncomfortable, but I would make sure that wherever I go, I would be tall as or taller than the tallest person in any given place (almost always a man; if women everywhere are, sometimes comically, almost always shorter, there should at least be ONE that isn't, and if men are almost always characteristically taller than everyone else, why shouldn't there be someone who is as tall, or just slightly taller than them? Why shouldn't that person be female? Who sets these eternal rules in stone?) In such a world (real life, but also unluckily Second Life) in which most men prefer women that are shorter or at least no taller than them for whatever reason and most women prefer men that are taller for whatever reason, what is a woman who is taller than all their typical counterparts as well as the men around them to do? Especially if they happen to have an uncommon and unpopular preference for those shorter than them? I like for my differences to the norm to be a point of pride in such a homogenous world; to challenge the status quo with myself and my relationships when everyone is often so visibly or subtly uncomfortable with women being taller than them or a man being shorter than them. Without risk of sounding like some feminist social justice warrior, why conform, when you can be an example for diversity and inclusivity? Why should it be uncool and questionable to dance with someone, perhaps someone you love, just because you're taller than everyone else, and they look like a timid teenager who just finished high school? The same goes for older people, overweight people, or people with disabilities like my boyfriend. It can be quite difficult to remember that those giant hulk avatars are indeed, short, fat, old and hairless with tiny body parts. When everyone is so perfect, I want to see that there are people like that, who present themselves in such a way that reflects that, and be able to seek out and meet them. Where are they? Where do they go? Where and how can I find them? Thank you for your insight, Ren. Yes, guys do comment and joke all the time about my looks, and it is all in good fun... but it does get very old and I would rather try and find some people who don't fit the normal paradigm at least for once every now and then. Someone who likes me for who I am and how I am, if not particularly... For me, the contrast is often an element for bonding and intimacy in a relationship and a point of connection and understanding in a friendship. If I can better find and connect with communities or folks like that who do have a flaw or two that they'd like to share and are comfortable with themselves and with me, then all the better. I would rather have my SL time be filled with more of those folks than the tired short woman, bigger and more muscular man narrative that everyone else prefers. Lastly, thank you Orwar; for responding once again and providing your insight. I can appreciate a different perspective, although I'm trying to bring the conversation away from my other post to expand on other types, not just continuing it and focusing in on it until it's exhausted.😉

Haha, I've never seen or noticed that before; I'll keep an eye out next time 😉 I don't usually go to men's stores just because every time I've been to them, it's full of dominant male types, even some aggressive, unpleasant ones every now and then. At least that's been my experience. As for shopping events, it's mostly women there. The guys can be a little more toned down, not so steroid-filled, but I still see more of them than not. Perhaps there are average looking male avatars there because they are looking to shop for items to improve their look. That does seem logical; I'll keep a look out for them. Thank you, Bree. 😄

Thank you, Garnet 😄 I've never thought of that before; I usually don't have much success meeting people while shopping; I think it's common to mostly ignore people and not disturb them while they shop. Was it just the one guy? It might have just been pure luck that he was there... I don't recall there being people like that at hair shops that much; maybe at body shops like Slink where folks are looking at avatars and parts to try on and purchase? I would also think they would be at those "newcomer friendly" places, but I have hardly seen them at all thus far.

That largely hasn't been my experience. At clubs, ballrooms, parks, towns and cities where I like to hang out especially; usually there's plenty of girls, perhaps some kids depending on the place and the rest are either non-human avatars or the aforementioned tall muscular men. The average-looking avatars are few and far between. Perhaps I still haven't been to enough places, but I get mostly the same thing everywhere I go. If I didn't have this issue, I wouldn't be posting here, looking to find out how I can expand my opportunities and the likelihood of meeting someone who fits my preference and taste more.

I have also noticed that appearance does (not always, but more often than not) seem to have a correlation with how people tend to behave. It's normal to behave in a way that corresponds to how you look and present yourself; like a billionaire playboy in a suit, a 1950s housewife, a janitor, police officer, escort, lecturer, an Arab prince or a scientist in a lab coat. There's a reason why some men don't like hanging out with males in dresses with makeup on, and some women don't like hanging out with guys whose appearance and profiles are tuned to show off their overt sexuality (think leather/latex suits and exposed genitals) Obviously like most people I would want to hang out with someone with an appearance I prefer, instead of spend time in a place around lots of guys whose appearance (and behaviour) turns me off. That's just natural. In this case I prefer something that might not be as common, and that's absolutely fine.

Hello, As a proudly tall woman who prefers much shorter men, a few months ago I was looking for shorter men in particular and I made a forum post discussing this matter: https://community.secondlife.com/forums/topic/458807-where-to-meet-cute-shorter-men/ It was an antidotal reaction to the widespread presence of the tall, muscular, hyper-masculine, hulking brutes you see seemingly everywhere. In the end, I established that guys with particularly short yet adult avatars (not kids) which served as a reflection of who they were, personality-wise and more or less in reality were exceptionally rare, limited to a small number of groups specially catering to short guys, tall women, or both. Most people in these groups aren't online very much, and I've basically exhausted these groups, having met most of the active members and not having a good experience with some. So I'm now wondering; Where do men with ordinary, average-looking "normal" avatars tend to hang out? The ones who aren't so muscular, tall and hyper-masculine, yet not particularly short (that is, much shorter than the default avatars you sign up with and much shorter than most human avatars you see, but not being a tiny or a child) Where are all the skinnier guys, the cute Asian boys (not femboys) and those guys who don't have six-packs, massive arms and sharp, chiselled jawlines? Where are all the prim, modest, anodyne, intelligent, sweater-wearing types who look like a young Mr Rogers, Yves Saint Laurent or have a Clark Kent likeness or persona? (as opposed to Superman) Where are those with flabby cheeks, messier and simpler hair, guys who are overweight or obese and don't mind showing it in-world? Where are those with disabilities and other insecurities they aren't afraid to show? Much older men with matching avatars also tend to be naturally more prosaic in appearance as they grow shorter and have visible wrinkles... So where can I find folks with avatars like this? It does seem that every now and then I do come across people like this, far more often than I think, far more often in general, and especially more often than men who are particularly very short. But still not as often as I'd like, compared to everyone else, who has a big, overpowering avatar. They tend to be much simpler or plainer in appearance or have very basic avatars and I have seen them among other places in airports, train stations, hospitals, intellectual places like discussion centres, spiritual sims, camping sites, and roleplay communities. New people also tend to be like this, but they then feel the need to eventually turn into those massive Hulk Hogan or He-Man clones as they learn more and improve their avatar. I've also noticed many of these people with these simpler avatars have been Second Life residents for at least 9-12 years. I suspect the modesty and comfort in themselves comes from the experience - they don't need to dominate every situation or overpower others with their excessive confidence and are comfortable with who they are; thus, the avatars reflect this. So how can I increase my chances of encountering folks like this? Where do they tend to congregate? What are some good places or groups for this? Thank you all so much, - Charlotte Sinclair

Thank you so much, Skell Dagger; I didn't know about tagging until now. I'll have a look around starting with your suggestions. Any recommendations for BoM system pants? So far, my modern riding breeches and boots have done the trick, save for the shiny look and a thick, short zipper on the toe, which shouldn't be too noticeable unless you were staring around intently. I was mainly looking for boots like yours, they look the part and seem to be à la mode for the era. I especially love the ornate embellishments of your outfit. Hopefully I'll find more coats or outfit sets to wear. - Charlotte Sinclair

Thank you so much! I'll be sure to check out Hotdog; I assume most of their items are available in-world. That Navy Uniform Coat looks absolutely on point! I do hope I'll find more items like that. I'm familiar enough with ContraptioN; I own both those items you posted, Skell Dagger. They're mostly steampunk (obviously inspired by the 19th century) with a few thematic deviations here and there. I absolutely love the elaborate, ornate male outfits you can find and I wish their female counterparts would be far more easier to search for. With the profile tags, what do you suggest I do? Send them a message asking about their outfits and where they get them from? I see women do indeed wear these outfits; it's just a matter of finding out where they're from. Skell Dagger, thank you so much for covering this in such detail; and thank you both for posting the profile tags; this is another shining example of the community here on the forums at their finest. EDIT: I've just tried the Navy Uniform Coat from Hotdog; it fits perfectly and certainly matches the kind of thing I'm looking for. However, it's just a coat and not a full outfit, so I need to find out where I can get matching trousers, boots and perhaps even gloves (cuffed or uncuffed) that can fit with the sleeves. If someone can point out some of these items too, I would be most appreciative! - Charlotte Sinclair

Hello everyone, I'm looking for military uniforms or suit outfits that are in the style of the 18th Century for roleplay; frock coat, cocked hat, cravat, waistcoat, epaulettes and all; Searching for "18th century" in the marketplace under the women's section only produces mostly large gowns and other primly feminine items. Whereas in the men's section, there are plenty of military and court uniforms to choose from. I understand for historical accuracy this is what is most commonly associated with women of the era; However, I'm looking for a more masculine outfit I can wear like in the first image below, but fitted for women. So far, I've made do with a "privateer" outfit for women; there are plenty of pirate outfits for women on the marketplace, but these are often very fantasy-like and scream nothing but buccaneer. I want to be able to roleplay in some other roles other than a pirate; an admiral, cavalry officer, etc. Are there any other particular search terms I should be trying? Does anybody know any stores that sell outfits like that for women? Any particular items? Thank you, - Charlotte Sinclair

Hi folks, I'm looking for high quality vintage style hair that would be suitable for a 1930s roleplay setting; my long modern hair just doesn't cut it. I've seen others wear hair like Truth Hair Labyrinth and Doux Zoe which work quite well, but I don't want to be seen wearing what's obviously the same hair as someone else; I'd like to find something different, does anybody have any suggestions on hair that could work? Thank you very much, - Charlotte Sinclair

Thank you shiviex, I was looking for something more particular, but I had a look; it's not bad, I had hoped somebody would point out some more particular items that would fit the description I gave.

I knew somebody would mention that ;) Does anybody know of any other bags like these? Perhaps something slightly larger? There aren't many of this style in SL, it seems.

Thank you very much, RowanMinx. I'm so happy you found something like what I was looking for, for so long... I hope I can find more bags like these.

Hello, everyone! 😘 I'm looking for a particular kind of bag in SL; not angular and rigid like many bags, but unstructured, puffy, trapezoid or rounded rectangle shaped and can be worn on the shoulder - I used to wear one all the time when I was using IMVU years back and it was my absolute favourite. I can't seem to find any like this in SL. Please excuse the lack of quality description; I'm not sure what this type of bag is called, but I see ladies wear this kind of bag all the time. I had a hard time finding any good pictures depicting exactly what kind of thing I'm looking for, but I hope these images are enough. If anybody can help me find bags like these in SL, I would greatly appreciate it 😉 - Charlotte Sinclair

Thank you so much Laurel; It's good to have some options; I'll certainly consider this one. I'm getting some Lara Croft vibes from some of these 😙

Thank you, norajulian for your suggestion; That looks to be a very good option; I'll put it on my wishlist for next time. I've pretty much found what I was looking for, on page 20 or so after searching "ponytail" under the Hair section. It's short and sweet; I don't think I'll get any closer than this - I'm quite happy I finally found what I'm looking for.

Very interesting; Thank you, norajulian. So far, this is the closest I've gotten: https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/TuTys-JUICY-Wet-look-ponytail-Dark-brown/3384493 TuTy's has some simple, neat hair; no bouffant, wavy ponytail or anything extra, save for a few strands of hair on the side... they also have a headscarf with a ponytail underneath it which I have. I'm looking for something that's not that long... I already have some super long ponytails.

Thank you very much Josephine; While I have tried hair from Doux before, this is exactly what I'm trying to avoid; the hair being tied too high above the back of the head, with too much hair. I'm going for a conservative look, something a somewhat older woman might wear, while cooking, doing chores, outdoor activities or in a business setting, rather than a more youthful, fashion-forward look. I'm looking for something very neat, and not too fashion-forward; just a very classic, high quality mesh ponytail with no fiddling with hairbases and such, if possible. If you see the pictures I attached, especially the one in the top-left corner, that shape and look is exactly what I'm looking for, with no luck to date. The hair is tied a bit more lower than what you see in many of the most popular hair sold on the marketplace, and quite neat with no strands of hair splaying all over the place in every direction. Rezology seems to have some similar items, and a search for "low ponytail" yields some results, but nothing conclusive. - Charlotte Sinclair