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Setting up your Second Life Camera
All right then, now that we have a backdrop to shoot against, let's talk about camera setup. First things first though, to frame our shot-- Well, we need a subject, don't we? This can be a still life subject or a portrait, or anything you like. I'm going to simply nab Neph and pop her on a poseball!
<Intermission for getting Neph dressed and dolled up>
There - now I'll just have to get her to stop blinking, and we should be ready to begin.
What we'll want to do now, is turn our attention to the Cameratools. Since I'll be doing a portrait, the first thing I'll have to decide on is my zoom, or 'View Angle'. You can tug the slider, some people will SWEAR by using the button shortcuts, but personally I like to have the Cameratools open whilst shooting anyway, for reasons that'll be made obvious soon. For a portrait, as I'll demonstrate here, I'll want to go with 0.350 rads - so I just pop that into the view angle.
Here's how it looks with the default (1.048 rads) view:
And this is with 0.350 rads:
And yes, that's only by changing the camera zoom - both shots are taken with the same camera position!
Now, let's frame our shot. I almost always use an aspect ratio of either 3:4 (portrait) or 4:3 (landscape), always dividable by 256 pixels (i.e. 768 x 1024 for a 3:4 shot in low resolution, or a 4608 x 6144 pixels for a full resolution shot). For this scene, I'll use a 3:4 format. So I open my camera, and put 768 x 1024 pixels into its size - make sure to unecheck 'Constrain proportions' first!
... I then change my mind about the rads and decide to just go for a -really- close close-up, and zoom to 0.200 rads. Why? Because I felt like it.
Whenever I move the camera, I hit the Refresh button in my camera, and check the display to see how the framing looks. Looks good? Good. Looks meh? Try altering your angle. Can't get the angle to work? Try another angle!
Now, a very important pair of buttons in the Cameratools, are these here little fellows:
Those are for SAVING and LOADING your camera position. Once you've framed your shot, SAVE your camera position, so that you can re-load it later on. Down-eye = save, up-eye = load. Note that you can only save one position at a time, and if you hit the save button again, you immediately overwrite your previously saved position.
Once you've framed your shot, there's just one more thing before taking the shot - let's light this pitch up!
Lighting your Scene (using prims!)
First things first, let's click the D (default) button on the View Angle in the Cameratools - navigating your scene and setting up your lights with that zoom can be outright obnoxious!
Now, just as when we made the backdrop, we're going to need us some cubes. Press Ctrl + B to create yourself a cube - we're going to use 3 cubes for now, and do a 3-point lighting setup with these. Here's a sketch I nabbed off zhe Internets, displaying how a 3-point lighting is set up:
Credits: www.reelmarketer.comThe idea is to make sure that your subject is well lit, but that there are gradients of intensity from different directions. For this shoot, we're going to work with one spotlight/projector (the key light) and two point lights (back and fill). Let's start with the key light; rez a prim cube, and move it so that it is a short bit away from your subject (or rather, the part of the subject you intend to shoot!). I generally turn my cubes into white, blank, full bright cubes so that I can easily spot them when working in a dark scene!
Now, in the Edit window, go to the Features tab of the prim. Here you'll find the tick box for turning the prim into a light source, as well as the texture selector in which you turn your light (point light by default) into a spotlight (you can use any texture - or even 'blank', but I have made a texture with a circle with a gradiant edge for this purpose, to get a soft, round spotlight).
At this point you may notice that the light, well, there isn't any? At least if you rezzed this box on the floor. That's because the projector light projects its lighting on the Z axis of the prim - we'll have to rotate it, as well as position it. Also - you must have Advanced Lighting Model activated in your preferences' graphic settings for this to work (or even the option to make a projector to appear, I believe).
Once we have flipped the prim on its side so that it projects its light horizontally, we change the reference of movement to 'Local', and drag it so that the blue arrow points away from the subject's face, and that the blue trace line is lined up with it.
Now, we create two more prims for the back and fill lights - you can use projector lights, but be wary of how your shadows end up looking. For now, I'm going to use to simple point lights.
From above, here's how it looks on my end at this point. Now we can shot, right? Well, not quite. We need to adjust our lights, and also decide what to do about the Windlight! I'm sure someone else will be happy to make a WL tutorial down the line - me, I don't use them much; instead, I'm going to go into my menu and find the Windlight called "Phototools- No Light"
Much as the name suggests, this Windlight contains no light. It'll be pitch black. Good thing we put those lights up, huh?
So, the scene is set, the picture is framed, now we get to the part where we tinker with our light's options to make the lighting look good. We'll want to reduce the intensity of our back and fill lights to begin with. Usually, the ratios are 100% for front light, 50% for fill light, and 20% for the back light. So let's begin by changing the intensities of the point lights to .5 and .2 respectively.
As to not make the thread too heavy - again - I'm not going to show a before and after picture here; test it out for yourselves and trust me, it makes a big difference! Poor Neph with her pale skin looked positively ghostly with all that light flooding her from every direction!
Now we can go back to our camera, load our camera position and set the zoom back to whatever we wanted to go with, and see how it looks in the camera preview. In my case, it feels as if the lighting is too 'sharp' - we haven't changed the falloff at all. As far as I've heard, 2.0 in falloff is how 'natural' light behaves, but I find it often makes the scene look, well, dull. I'll check my boxes and see what I end up with.
Personally, I also like to add a slight tint of blue to my key light, usually a very, very light blue. If you want to replicate daylight, you can also use orange or yellow tones - or, you can make a light effect by using a sharp, saturated colour.
At this state we just mull back and forth between the camera and the lights, adjusting back and forth until we're happy with how it looks - you can also save a lower resolution shot to your computer and open it in full-screen to have a closer look. When you're all happy with it, bump the size up as far as you can or want to go - and snap away!
Here's a 1024 x 768 sample of what I took (yes, I changed my mind about the aspect ratio, and angle, once I had the scene lit up!):
And here it is after trimming, re-touching, focus blurring and all that.
Well, there it is. Enjoy!
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We have a pretty large community of photography enthusiasts here on the forums, and whilst there are plenty of blogs and guides out there, it's not always easy to find what you're looking for, if you're unfamiliar with the terminologies and techniques used. There are a handful of forumite photography groups both in-world and on Flickr, but most of them are for showing off your pictures and the occasional banter, or meeting up to do collaborative shots - I'd like to dedicate this thread to one thing which isn't always addressed head-on, though; how people actually set up and take their shots.
There are of course various methods, and different people have their own favourite ways of doing things - it's difficult, if not impossible, to say which method is the 'best'. Whichever works and give you the results you want, is a good way!
This thread may also act as a recepticle for other threads or external sources - feel free to share earlier works, or writing up your tips and tricks, or making your own tutorials.
To kick this thread off, I'm going to go over my own go-to setup, including: building a prim backdrop (and how to make a green screen), setting up your in-world camera, and lighting your scene.
Building a Prim Backdrop
To build a backdrop, you need to be in an area where you have rez rights - you'll need a prim allowance of two.
Press Ctrl + B on your keyboard to open the build menu, select a cube and click anywhere on the ground to rez it. In the edit window, make sure that "Snap" is ticked in and grab the blue arrow; this will move the prim on its Z-axis - but rather than moving the cursor up or down along the arrow's path, drag your cursor sideways until the cube snaps onto the grid ruler. You can put the backdrop at whichever altitude suits you, but for simplicity's sake, make sure that it is snapped to the ruler.
Once you have snapped the cube into position, let go of the cursor. For the next step, you could change the edit mode to stretch and just drag it - but let's instead change tab on the edit window to 'Object'. In here, find the size parameters. I usually go for a 4 x 4 x 0.5 meter prim, this is generally adequately large to cover the screen whilst shooting - if you need it larger, you can make it as large or small as you require.
So let's put 4, 4 and .5 into the X, Y and Z parameters to build ourselves a floor prim.
Now, let's align our prim on the X and Y axis as well. This is done just the same as with the Z axis - grab the red arrow, drag your cursor sideways until you're snapped onto the ruler, and snap it onto nearest full meter mark; then do the same with the green arrow.
Next, we need a wall. You can either press Ctrl + B again to create a new cube - but let's instead copy our existing prim. To do this, hold down the Shift key and pull the floor sideways - a duplicate of it will be created, pull it whilst snapping it to the grid, until the two prim floors are butted up against one another. Now grab the blue arrow and snap it 0.5 meters up, so that you have a hollow corner - like this:
Now you just have two floors, though - let's make that second floor a wall instead. Whilst you can go to the edit window and change the size there - or simply rotate the prim 90 degrees - these will both put your prims out of alignment. Instead, select the 'Stretch' option in the edit window and, again using the grid ruler, pull the prim's far edge (the red or green cube, depending which direction of the floor you put the second prim!) towards the floor, until it is .5 meters thick.
Now, grab the upper blue stretch point and drag it, once again on the grid ruler, until it's 4 meters tall. Once you have done this, you're finished with the structural part of the backdrop - but plywood doesn't make for a very nice backdrop texture, let's have a look at texturing this structure.
If you de-selected the prims, right-click and Edit either one of them, then hold down shift and mouse-click on the second prim to select both. If you'd like, you can at this point press 'Link' in the edit window, to 'glue' the two parts together (note how the outline of the prim you selected first turns blue!). Next, go to the Texture tab in the edit window, and you'll find a window in which the current plywood texture is displayed; click it to open the texture selector - in the new window, you can browse the textures in your inventory, but what we want to do is make the whole thing blank. For this, there's a button labeled 'blank' - click it good!
You now have a white backdrop, all ready to use!
However, if you want a wholly white background to your photo, unaffected by the lighting you're going to use, you'll want to tick the 'Full Bright' button between the texture selector and the colour picker. Actually, if you don't want a plain, white backdrop, go ahead and do that now. If, like me, you like to shoot in a dark scene, a sudden camera control mishap can get you quite lost - having the backdrop full bright will make it easier for you to navigate your camera back to the scene again; however, now we're faced with a potential trouble - if you pop up a full bright backdrop in your garden, the neighbors may be none so pleased. We can remedy this by moving our build to a building platform, out of sight from the otherwise impeccable neighborhood.
Go back to the Object tab, find the 'Position' parameters, and in the Z parameter insert an altitude (always check your land's covenant for rules regarding skybox and platform altitudes first!) - I'm going to pop mine at, say, 800 meters. Press Enter, and-- Poof. It's gone! You could do what I did for years, and simply press down and hold the jump button until you've flown up to the altitude of your backdrop, but that may take a while - instead, press the 'Home' button on your keyboard to toggle flying on (same button to turn it off), and press Ctrl + M to open your map. Insert the same altitude into the location's Z parameter (far right of the three coordinate selectors) and press Enter - you'll now have a waypoint way up in the sky; simply press Teleport to go to it!
There she is! Which reminds me - for the sake of not making your inventory quite so messy, you can name your backdrop by going to the 'General' tab in the Edit window and simply change the name from 'Object' to... Hm. I shall call mine-- Drahoslava von Backdroppen.
Okay, so let's talk about texturing options. If you want to make a chromakey shot, you can simply edit the backdrop, click 'select face' in the Edit window, mark the inner wall and floor faces and turn them whichever colour you wish to use for your chromakey (usually green, for 'green screen' - but that may not always be the case; perhaps someone will come along with a chromakey tutorial down the line?!).
Personally, I tend to go with a dark gray, so I select the same two faces, turn off the full bright on those, and in the colour picker I pick a gray.
Of course, you can use other textures, too, rather than using a blank backdrop. I'm going to show you two variants of this; a local texture from my disk, and a texture plus its materials that I have in my inventory.
First, from inventory:
Select the two faces, go to the Texture tab in the Edit window, click the blank texture to open the texture selector, and browse your inventory to find your texture in your inventory. Also, if you tinted the face earlier, turn the colour back to white first!
I can then add my normal and specular maps to the same faces, by changing which layer of the face to put my textures on.
Well. I'm out of space for attachment uploads for this post, so I'll post the other guides following this one instead. Hmpf!
But first, let's talk about using Local textures - if you don't want to upload a texture to SL permanently (costs L$10!), you can temporarily upload a local texture. You do this by selecting the Local option in the texture selector, and uploading your file from your computer:
Okay, so, this turned out more of a building tutorial than a photography one - but I'll start typing away on the camera setup and lighting setup right away - watch this space!
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Chocolate handgun.
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8 hours ago, Skell Dagger said:
(dear god, what caterpillars...)
But where does one find eyebrows like these ...?
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13 minutes ago, LittleMe Jewell said:
While I've taken notice of how many Likes a photo gets, I don't think I've ever paid any attention to who is doing the Likes.
I find it quite natural to get curious - if I notice that my picture is sandwiched between two with 5 ish 'likes' more than mine, it makes one wonder which people find one's pictures unworthy. When it happens more than once, it's not that hard to connect a few dots and see the patterns at play. Shrugs.
It's not really a big deal. I know my taste isn't for everyone, and that I'm not universally loved by everyone - nothing wrong with that. But I've been on this thread for ages, and one of the reasons I've been told by new people that they don't like to post in this thread is the disproportionate distribution of likes, fearing that they won't be as accepted as the 'veterans'. Whilst this is often untrue, as it generally seems first-time-posters receive praise in plenty, I could see how a lurker might go up and down a page noticing the sometimes quite significant differences and wondering if they'll end up at the bottom of the barrel.
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Had to steal a snap, too!
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Pew pew?
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On 8/15/2019 at 3:53 AM, Lyssa Greymoon said:
No one reads profiles, and no one appreciates your black as midnight humor.
I read profiles. Tick tock!
But yeah, people generally tend to get upset by my humor.
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3 hours ago, Caerolle Llewellyn said:
Perhaps some forum rules would be nice, or a link to whichever of the 800-some-odd pages that covers them would be helpful for new people like me who don't know the culture and norms here, and who are too lazy to read all 800-some-odd (I did read the first few, before I first posted in this thread to see what the context was, but did not see any such rules or norms).
There aren't any. In Nostoll's first post, there was no text at all, just pictures. The amount of banter is a trending issue that comes and goes, and there have been instances in the past when others have voiced an opinion on it. It's a bit like this thread vs. the Vanity Thread; there's no 'official' distinction between the two, and what the perceived differences are can also vary depending on whom you ask. Whose idea of what the 'culture' is, is the correct one?
I know it isn't just me though, several of the people I speak to regularly in-world have brought up that there's too much chatter and re-posts. Some have even said that they're reluctant to post as they're afraid people won't like their picture as much as others', or that no one will see their picture because there are 3 quotes, with picture, of someone else's picture. It's a frequent theme of the thread; people don't dare post pictures, and no one wants to make others feel uncomfortable, and generally everyone is very supportive of newbies - but at the same time, there is a lot of bias, and perceived exclusion and elitism going on.
I can't keep up with the thread at all times, and I've often felt guilty about the distribution of my 'likes'; in a perfect world, I'd like everyone's every picture, but browsing the thread to find every new picture when there can be several new pages in a matter of hours. Whilst I do go back to see what I've missed most of the time, I find that the constant re-posting of the same picture is distracting me from the purpose of looking at everyone's new, individual pictures. I try my best to at least like the pictures of those who've liked mine as not to seem ungrateful, and if I know that if any given person never likes my pictures, but also likes others', then I don't tend to like theirs either. I often consider just ceasing the liking-game altogether.
And, because I'm opposed to straying too far off the topic, here's an unedited, caught-in-the-AO snapshot of how my avatar looks today:
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I'm tipsy. Possibly a notch beyond tipsy. Parteh!
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I tried a demo of the Legacy body the other day. The mesh gaps when at a distance from the sea level (i.e. when in a skybox) were too much for me. That and the neck seam being way off, as well as the price, made me not want to invest in one. It's too bad, really, because the body looks very nice and smooth compared to my current (Maitreya) body, but those kinks just are too much of a bother to deal with in my opinion. That and the whole, it's made by TMP thing.
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Beware standalone ears.
I get it, the ears on certain heads aren't particularly high detail and may come off as a bit blocky - but many of the high-poly ears out there on the market will have a significant impact on your complexity. 20-30K per ear isn't uncommon. Besides, getting the skin colour to match from your head to ears can be a PITA; get it right in one WL and in the next it'll look like you dipped your hearing apparatus in bleach. For photography it's fine to use a different ear than those that come with the head, as long as you can tint them to match your skin for your lighting setup, but when you're out and about I reckon more people would notice a gross mismatch of colour than your ears not being smooth as baby's bottoms.
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Is it just me, or are the quotations and re-posts in this thread getting all confusing? I'm not entirely guilt-free of the occasional banter or discussion, but the picture to page ratio feels as if it has dropped significantly as of late ...
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And without bunny ears!
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Doing a full body shot. They're difficult. So I figured I'd swoop in and do a portrait as well, in case I decide to ditch the whole shoot. Unedited shot.
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I put a few things on my wishlist on occasion, in case I want to purchase something later. I don't advertise it in any way though. It's just easier than having a half million tabs open in my browser for things I might want to get later.
Cat occasionally sneaks on there and buys me something, though.
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On 8/11/2019 at 9:33 PM, PandoriaMoonshadow said:
[ ... ] what makes a modeling agency/school necessarily a ripoff?
On 8/6/2019 at 12:18 PM, Orwar said:[ ... ] most modeling agencies/schools I've heard of in the past have been ripoffs [ ... ]
'Necessarily'? That's not what I said - try again!
On 8/11/2019 at 9:33 PM, PandoriaMoonshadow said:it's still a *game* deeply rooted in *role play*
Second Life is not a game, it's a virtual world. It's not rooted in role play as much as being a social and creative platform. A lot of (perhaps 'most') people in Second Life do not role play, many even resent the idea. If you were looking for role play, though, then your thread should have been posted in the role play section, not the in-world employment.
On 8/11/2019 at 9:33 PM, PandoriaMoonshadow said:If someone wants to role play attending a modeling school or running a modeling school, isn't that their prerogative?
Have I ever stated the contrary? No, I have not. I warned you that, in the past, a lot of people have had negative experiences with pretentious 'schools' offering tutelage in exchange for money - or even 'special favors'. If that's what you want, then knock yourself out - if that's not what you want, be critical of what you do find as to avoid fraud. I'm sorry for trying to be nice?
On 8/11/2019 at 9:33 PM, PandoriaMoonshadow said:I've participated in elementary schools at a kid avi, I've attended colleges as an adult avi. I've paid for them with L$/real money. Didn't learn a thing, so perhaps you might call those schools a ripoff too. But I had a great time doing it and so it was completely worth the L$ I paid.
Any role play community which has expenditures, such as land fees or tiers, need some sort of revenue unless its owners or benefactors are willing and able to pay for it out of their own pockets; there's nothing weird with that. The only reason I brought it up is, there has been threads in the past on these forums, from people who have presented various 'certificates' and 'degrees' from modeling schools and expected that it would give them actual modeling positions. People being unable to keep role play and actual business apart is no good; and you've posted in the 'looking for work' board, not the 'role play' board.
On 8/11/2019 at 9:33 PM, PandoriaMoonshadow said:And your last comment came off a little harsh. I was being sarcastic [ ... ]
You're projecting emotion onto a non-emotive text; I don't much care what tone of voice, expression or body language you perceive in the absence of such. I asked you a question, loaded only with the ammunition you yourself provided. Had I been <insert popular model reality show judge>, would you feel it a harsh question - or one attempting to prompt you to declare actual merits if such existed?
On 8/11/2019 at 9:33 PM, PandoriaMoonshadow said:It seems fairly common for certain people to respond to someone's post with a critical, judgmental response that's simply unhelpful, unnecessary and uncalled for, especially if the original post is submitted by a "newbie" to the forums.
That is a category which you (and others) make. Categorising phenomena around us is natural, but sometimes it's unfortunate - I don't attack or troll people for funsies, nor do I wrap my queries with cotton candy. I perceived gaps in your original post and tried to get you to fill them so as to avoid having to project my own expectations. Because you are a newbie on the forums, I tried to warn you to be wary as the modeling scene in Second Life has many dark sides to it which one might not want to jump head-on into without scrutiny. It was meant as an act of kindness, but because of your projection of emotion, you turned it into cruelty - I can't take responsibility for your perception.
On 8/11/2019 at 9:33 PM, PandoriaMoonshadow said:*mic drop*
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I'm looking to employ a few new photography models. It's been a while since I properly worked with any and figure it may be a mutually beneficial deal for all parties involved. My photography portfolio can be viewed HERE. Applicants may be of any gender, ethnicity or even non-human (although 'humanoid' is preferred).
These will not be paid positions, the deal is as follows; you'll get to do-up your avatar pretty much however you like, I'll take your picture and edit it as I see fit (input will be welcomed, though), the photo will contain my signature but you will be free to use it for any (business or leisure) applications that you wish (blogging, store ads, etc.), with the only condition being that I'm credited for taking the shot. If you have any questions regarding that, feel free to ask!
I will be selecting the models through trials which will begin next week (I'll be away for the weekend and return on Tuesday), and depending on the amount of applicants I hope to have made the selection by the 25th at the latest - last day of application is Sunday the 18th, noon CET (that's 03.00 AM SLT). If you wish to apply, please send a note card to me in-world - make sure to include your name and "application" in the note card's name; the content of the note card can be anything that you want it to be - consider it an extension of your personal profile where you may want to mention anything which you consider to be of merit to the position.
Requirements:
- You must be able to read and write in English (alternatively Swedish). No translators.
- You must have a schedule which allows for at least one photography appointment to begin between circa 16.00-21.00 CET on any weekday of your choice.
- You must have an in-world wardrobe that either already is expansive, or which you intend to expand on with some regularity.
Meriting 'stuff':
- Being a pose-maker.
- Not being a mainstream fashion bore.
- Building skills (like, knowing how to adjust accessories' rotation and position).
For the trial:
Each applicant is asked to put together 3 complete looks, including hair, make-up (if applicable), apparel, accessories, as well as a separate pose for each getup. After a brief interview, I will shoot three shots of this in a simple studio setting. The shots (unedited) as well as the content of your application and interview will then be used for the selection process. Note that whilst I'm fine with shooting mature content, each outfit must contain some sort of apparel!
If you have any urgent questions that requires an answer before Tuesday, please contact @Catrie and she will relay any questions to me via Discord.
Pic for attention and because I can?
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Honestly, I don't see the point within SL. A creator is a creator, whether you're making apparel, houses, trees or sculptures - who's to say one creator's products is worth saving and another's isn't?
The whole 'I'm an artist, I want special treatment' mentality is just sickening. It's virtual objects, you can replicate them into infinity - put them up for sale like any normal creator would, and if people appreciate your stuff, then your business should be able to stand on its own legs.
If you want to upload virtual pictures of something you've painted, the cost for a texture upload is L$10 - rent a small venue to showcase your work, put up a tip jar or let people buy copies of your work to bring home with them. Networking and advertising sort of comes with the 'job' of being a creator, regardless of what you make.
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I haven't seen or heard of any lately. I don't see what purpose they'd fill either - most creators either use their own avatars (or alts) for product ads, or simply shoot their product in Daz3D. Most people involved in the photography/blogging scene just ask people whose work/avatars they enjoy if they want to do collaborative shots, or ask their friends to model for them.
Besides, most modeling agencies/schools I've heard of in the past have been ripoffs, trying to make money out of people desperate for the glamour they associate with it, or just been role play which didn't contain any actual photography or stuff.
I'm curious though, how come you think you should get to avoid the recruitment and selection processes. And posting in the inworld employment board, are you expecting to be paid for it?
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Finally done snoozing, so it's time to... Awaken, awaken, awaken, awaken, take the lands that must be taken, awaken, awaken, awaken, awaken, devour worlds, smite forsaken. Air-drum morning gymnastics.
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Posted · Edited by Orwar
You'll never know! ";..;"
Nor is Jamie Oliver ...