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I doubt there is a fix? at least with method or what they are using trying to do Obsolete Platforms This version is the last Second Life Release to support Windows XP or below and Mac OS X prior to 10.7. http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Linden_Lab_Official:Alternate_Viewers there really is no reason for a 32 bit viewer to exist if they are stone walling blacklisting banning boycotting windows xp as windows xp would do better then microsoft windows vista 7 8 10 ect upwards as after windows xp all microsoft operating systems are over bloated pigs on memory plus the 32 bit memory limitations and after microsoft windows xp, all versions of microsoft windows home editions are 64 bit unless consumers were scammed at point of sale microsoft should of never made another 32 bit operating system after windows xp home but they did and they still do, the crutch for software like this if your running a 64 bit operating system already chances are your graphics card already has 64 bit drivers for applications and gaming ect and the 64 bit operating system and software 64 bit is super old.. for consumers. it may be new for linden labs but for the rest of the world it was a very long time ago April 25, 2005; 12 years ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_XP_Professional_x64_Edition June 23, 2003; 14 years ago https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Life has the software been hiding under a rock in research and development?

did all releases of Alex Ivy have SL_Launcher? in the start when i couldn't get the 64 bit viewer to work I used the 32 bit viewer and it worked of Alex Ivy but I just tested the 32 bit Alex Ivy now and it no longer works Release Notes If you use an HD 2000 or 3000 series video card on Windows 10, choose 32 bit http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_Release/5.0.8.328879 Downloads for Intel® HD Graphics 2000 https://downloadcenter.intel.com/product/81502 Downloads for Intel® HD Graphics 3000 https://downloadcenter.intel.com/product/81500 people can now clearly see there hardware has 64 bit drivers and support after 13 years of having 64 bit support linden labs is going to show up to the party late blacklist everyone and tell them they are not 64 bit and restrict them from accessing and using 64 bit even though they have clearly been 64 bit for more then a decade longer then second life linden labs has ever been

I tried sansar it also works and seems to be 64bit https://www.sansar.com/download the updated viewer here only changes the client exe to tell you not to run the exe http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_Release/5.1.0.508209 what does SL_Launcher do? and why is SL_Launcher needed? does firestorm have SL_Launcher? does sansar have SL_Launcher? does the 32bit second life viewer have SL_Launcher? i really do not remember these SL_Launcher issues with the 32bit linden labs viewer in the past what changed? will firestorm have a sansar viewer?

https://jira.secondlife.com/browse/BUG-134129

I do not have or use anti virus launching opening SecondLifeViewer.exe in C:\Program Files\SecondLifeViewer worked Second Life Release 5.1.0.507412 (64bit) Release Notes You are at 240.4, 159.6, 1,439.9 in Forever Diamant located at sim10715.agni.lindenlab.com (216.82.53.77:13015) SLURL: http://maps.secondlife.com/secondlife/Forever Diamant/240/160/1440 (global coordinates 179,952.0, 327,584.0, 1,439.9) Second Life Server 17.07.27.327933 Release Notes CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (3499.99 MHz) Memory: 32707 MB OS Version: Microsoft Windows 10 64-bit (Build 14393) Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 780/PCIe/SSE2 Windows Graphics Driver Version: 22.21.0013.8253 OpenGL Version: 4.5.0 NVIDIA 382.53 Window size: 1920x1017 Font Size Adjustment: 96pt UI Scaling: 1 Draw distance: 512m Bandwidth: 500kbit/s LOD factor: 2 Render quality: 6 / 7 Advanced Lighting Model: Enabled Texture memory: 512MB VFS (cache) creation time: August 12 2017 11:54:41 J2C Decoder Version: KDU v7.9.1 Audio Driver Version: FMOD Ex 4.44.64 Dullahan: 1.1.800 / CEF: 3.3071.1634.g9cc59c8 / Chrome: 59 LibVLC Version: 2.2.4 Voice Server Version: Not Connected Packets Lost: 0/9,249 (0.0%) August 12 2017 11:57:52 2017-08-12T18:53:54Z INFO: vmp_util.py(60) : getLogger: ================ Running SL_Launcher 2017-08-12T18:53:54Z INFO: SL_Launcher(205) : main: Viewer version 5.1.0.507412 2017-08-12T18:53:54Z INFO: SL_Launcher(140) : capture_vmp_args: Parsing passed arguments: ['--set', 'InstallLanguage', 'en'] 2017-08-12T18:53:54Z WARNING: update_manager.py(203) : get_settings: Could not read settings file [Errno 13] Permission denied: u'C:\\Users\\iceki\\AppData\\Roaming\\SecondLife' 2017-08-12T18:53:54Z WARNING: update_manager.py(662) : update_manager: Failed to load viewer settings (this may be normal) from C:\Users\iceki\AppData\Roaming\SecondLife\user_settings\settings.xml 2017-08-12T18:53:54Z INFO: vmp_util.py(88) : stream: ======== running subcommand ['wmic', 'path', 'Win32_VideoController', 'get', 'NAME']; any stderr follows 2017-08-12T18:53:54Z INFO: vmp_util.py(88) : stream: Unhandled exception: <type 'exceptions.WindowsError'> Python 2.7.13: C:\Program Files\SecondLifeViewer\SL_Launcher.exe Sat Aug 12 14:53:54 2017 A problem occurred in a Python script. Here is the sequence of function calls leading up to the error, in the order they occurred. C:\Program Files\SecondLifeViewer\SL_Launcher in <module>() C:\Program Files\SecondLifeViewer\SL_Launcher in main() C:\Program Files\SecondLifeViewer\update_manager.py in update_manager(cli_overrides={'channel': None, 'forceaddresssize': None, 'set': {'UpdaterMaximumBandwidth': None, 'UpdaterServiceCheckPeriod': None, 'UpdaterServiceSetting': None, 'UpdaterServiceURL': None, 'UpdaterWillingToTest': None}, 'settings': None}) C:\Program Files\SecondLifeViewer\update_manager.py in query_vvm(platform_key='win', settings={'ForceAddressSize': None}, UpdaterServiceURL=u'https://update.secondlife.com/update', UpdaterWillingToTest=None) C:\Program Files\SecondLifeViewer\update_manager.py in getBitness(platform_key='win', settings={'ForceAddressSize': None}) C:\Program Files\SecondLifeViewer\subprocess.py in check_output(*popenargs=(['wmic', 'path', 'Win32_VideoController', 'get', 'NAME'],), **kwargs={'env': {'TMP': 'C:\\Users\\iceki\\AppData\\Local\\Temp'...sers\\Public', 'USERPROFILE': 'C:\\Users\\iceki'}, 'startupinfo': <subprocess.STARTUPINFO instance>, 'stderr': <open file u'C:\\Users\\iceki\\AppData\\Roaming\\SecondLife\\logs\\SL_Launcher.log', mode 'a'>, 'stdin': -1}) C:\Program Files\SecondLifeViewer\subprocess.py in __init__(self=<subprocess.Popen object>, args=['wmic', 'path', 'Win32_VideoController', 'get', 'NAME'], bufsize=0, executable=None, stdin=-1, stdout=-1, stderr=<open file u'C:\\Users\\iceki\\AppData\\Roaming\\SecondLife\\logs\\SL_Launcher.log', mode 'a'>, preexec_fn=None, close_fds=False, shell=False, cwd=None, env={'TMP': 'C:\\Users\\iceki\\AppData\\Local\\Temp'...sers\\Public', 'USERPROFILE': 'C:\\Users\\iceki'}, universal_newlines=False, startupinfo=<subprocess.STARTUPINFO instance>, creationflags=0) C:\Program Files\SecondLifeViewer\subprocess.py in _execute_child(self=<subprocess.Popen object>, args='wmic path Win32_VideoController get NAME', executable=None, preexec_fn=None, close_fds=False, cwd=None, env={'TMP': 'C:\\Users\\iceki\\AppData\\Local\\Temp'...sers\\Public', 'USERPROFILE': 'C:\\Users\\iceki'}, universal_newlines=False, startupinfo=<subprocess.STARTUPINFO instance>, creationflags=0, shell=False, to_close=set([<_subprocess_handle object>, <_subprocess_handle object>]), p2cread=<_subprocess_handle object>, p2cwrite=<_subprocess_handle object>, c2pread=<_subprocess_handle object>, c2pwrite=<_subprocess_handle object>, errread=None, errwrite=<_subprocess_handle object>) <type 'exceptions.WindowsError'>: [Error 2] The system cannot find the file specified __class__ = <type 'exceptions.WindowsError'> __delattr__ = <method-wrapper '__delattr__' of exceptions.WindowsError object> __dict__ = {} __doc__ = 'MS-Windows OS system call failed.' __format__ = <built-in method __format__ of exceptions.WindowsError object> __getattribute__ = <method-wrapper '__getattribute__' of exceptions.WindowsError object> __getitem__ = <method-wrapper '__getitem__' of exceptions.WindowsError object> __getslice__ = <method-wrapper '__getslice__' of exceptions.WindowsError object> __hash__ = <method-wrapper '__hash__' of exceptions.WindowsError object> __init__ = <method-wrapper '__init__' of exceptions.WindowsError object> __new__ = <built-in method __new__ of type object> __reduce__ = <built-in method __reduce__ of exceptions.WindowsError object> __reduce_ex__ = <built-in method __reduce_ex__ of exceptions.WindowsError object> __repr__ = <method-wrapper '__repr__' of exceptions.WindowsError object> __setattr__ = <method-wrapper '__setattr__' of exceptions.WindowsError object> __setstate__ = <built-in method __setstate__ of exceptions.WindowsError object> __sizeof__ = <built-in method __sizeof__ of exceptions.WindowsError object> __str__ = <method-wrapper '__str__' of exceptions.WindowsError object> __subclasshook__ = <built-in method __subclasshook__ of type object> __unicode__ = <built-in method __unicode__ of exceptions.WindowsError object> args = (2, 'The system cannot find the file specified') errno = 2 filename = None message = '' strerror = 'The system cannot find the file specified' winerror = 2 The above is a description of an error in a Python program. Here is the original traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File "SL_Launcher", line 311, in <module> File "SL_Launcher", line 241, in main File "update_manager.py", line 735, in update_manager File "update_manager.py", line 358, in query_vvm File "update_manager.py", line 268, in getBitness File "subprocess.py", line 212, in check_output File "subprocess.py", line 390, in __init__ File "subprocess.py", line 640, in _execute_child WindowsError: [Error 2] The system cannot find the file specified 2017-08-12T18:54:34Z INFO: vmp_util.py(60) : getLogger: ================ Running SL_Launcher 2017-08-12T18:54:34Z INFO: SL_Launcher(205) : main: Viewer version 5.1.0.507412 2017-08-12T18:54:34Z INFO: SL_Launcher(140) : capture_vmp_args: Parsing passed arguments: [] 2017-08-12T18:54:34Z WARNING: update_manager.py(203) : get_settings: Could not read settings file [Errno 13] Permission denied: u'C:\\Users\\iceki\\AppData\\Roaming\\SecondLife' 2017-08-12T18:54:34Z WARNING: update_manager.py(662) : update_manager: Failed to load viewer settings (this may be normal) from C:\Users\iceki\AppData\Roaming\SecondLife\user_settings\settings.xml 2017-08-12T18:54:34Z INFO: vmp_util.py(88) : stream: ======== running subcommand ['wmic', 'path', 'Win32_VideoController', 'get', 'NAME']; any stderr follows 2017-08-12T18:54:34Z INFO: vmp_util.py(88) : stream: Unhandled exception: <type 'exceptions.WindowsError'> Python 2.7.13: C:\Program Files\SecondLifeViewer\SL_Launcher.exe Sat Aug 12 14:54:34 2017 A problem occurred in a Python script. Here is the sequence of function calls leading up to the error, in the order they occurred. C:\Program Files\SecondLifeViewer\SL_Launcher in <module>() C:\Program Files\SecondLifeViewer\SL_Launcher in main() C:\Program Files\SecondLifeViewer\update_manager.py in update_manager(cli_overrides={'channel': None, 'forceaddresssize': None, 'set': {'UpdaterMaximumBandwidth': None, 'UpdaterServiceCheckPeriod': None, 'UpdaterServiceSetting': None, 'UpdaterServiceURL': None, 'UpdaterWillingToTest': None}, 'settings': None}) C:\Program Files\SecondLifeViewer\update_manager.py in query_vvm(platform_key='win', settings={'ForceAddressSize': None}, UpdaterServiceURL=u'https://update.secondlife.com/update', UpdaterWillingToTest=None) C:\Program Files\SecondLifeViewer\update_manager.py in getBitness(platform_key='win', settings={'ForceAddressSize': None}) C:\Program Files\SecondLifeViewer\subprocess.py in check_output(*popenargs=(['wmic', 'path', 'Win32_VideoController', 'get', 'NAME'],), **kwargs={'env': {'TMP': 'C:\\Users\\iceki\\AppData\\Local\\Temp'...sers\\Public', 'USERPROFILE': 'C:\\Users\\iceki'}, 'startupinfo': <subprocess.STARTUPINFO instance>, 'stderr': <open file u'C:\\Users\\iceki\\AppData\\Roaming\\SecondLife\\logs\\SL_Launcher.log', mode 'a'>, 'stdin': -1}) C:\Program Files\SecondLifeViewer\subprocess.py in __init__(self=<subprocess.Popen object>, args=['wmic', 'path', 'Win32_VideoController', 'get', 'NAME'], bufsize=0, executable=None, stdin=-1, stdout=-1, stderr=<open file u'C:\\Users\\iceki\\AppData\\Roaming\\SecondLife\\logs\\SL_Launcher.log', mode 'a'>, preexec_fn=None, close_fds=False, shell=False, cwd=None, env={'TMP': 'C:\\Users\\iceki\\AppData\\Local\\Temp'...sers\\Public', 'USERPROFILE': 'C:\\Users\\iceki'}, universal_newlines=False, startupinfo=<subprocess.STARTUPINFO instance>, creationflags=0) C:\Program Files\SecondLifeViewer\subprocess.py in _execute_child(self=<subprocess.Popen object>, args='wmic path Win32_VideoController get NAME', executable=None, preexec_fn=None, close_fds=False, cwd=None, env={'TMP': 'C:\\Users\\iceki\\AppData\\Local\\Temp'...sers\\Public', 'USERPROFILE': 'C:\\Users\\iceki'}, universal_newlines=False, startupinfo=<subprocess.STARTUPINFO instance>, creationflags=0, shell=False, to_close=set([<_subprocess_handle object>, <_subprocess_handle object>]), p2cread=<_subprocess_handle object>, p2cwrite=<_subprocess_handle object>, c2pread=<_subprocess_handle object>, c2pwrite=<_subprocess_handle object>, errread=None, errwrite=<_subprocess_handle object>) <type 'exceptions.WindowsError'>: [Error 2] The system cannot find the file specified __class__ = <type 'exceptions.WindowsError'> __delattr__ = <method-wrapper '__delattr__' of exceptions.WindowsError object> __dict__ = {} __doc__ = 'MS-Windows OS system call failed.' __format__ = <built-in method __format__ of exceptions.WindowsError object> __getattribute__ = <method-wrapper '__getattribute__' of exceptions.WindowsError object> __getitem__ = <method-wrapper '__getitem__' of exceptions.WindowsError object> __getslice__ = <method-wrapper '__getslice__' of exceptions.WindowsError object> __hash__ = <method-wrapper '__hash__' of exceptions.WindowsError object> __init__ = <method-wrapper '__init__' of exceptions.WindowsError object> __new__ = <built-in method __new__ of type object> __reduce__ = <built-in method __reduce__ of exceptions.WindowsError object> __reduce_ex__ = <built-in method __reduce_ex__ of exceptions.WindowsError object> __repr__ = <method-wrapper '__repr__' of exceptions.WindowsError object> __setattr__ = <method-wrapper '__setattr__' of exceptions.WindowsError object> __setstate__ = <built-in method __setstate__ of exceptions.WindowsError object> __sizeof__ = <built-in method __sizeof__ of exceptions.WindowsError object> __str__ = <method-wrapper '__str__' of exceptions.WindowsError object> __subclasshook__ = <built-in method __subclasshook__ of type object> __unicode__ = <built-in method __unicode__ of exceptions.WindowsError object> args = (2, 'The system cannot find the file specified') errno = 2 filename = None message = '' strerror = 'The system cannot find the file specified' winerror = 2 The above is a description of an error in a Python program. Here is the original traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File "SL_Launcher", line 311, in <module> File "SL_Launcher", line 241, in main File "update_manager.py", line 735, in update_manager File "update_manager.py", line 358, in query_vvm File "update_manager.py", line 268, in getBitness File "subprocess.py", line 212, in check_output File "subprocess.py", line 390, in __init__ File "subprocess.py", line 640, in _execute_child WindowsError: [Error 2] The system cannot find the file specified 2017-08-12T18:56:23Z INFO: vmp_util.py(60) : getLogger: ================ Running SL_Launcher 2017-08-12T18:56:23Z INFO: SL_Launcher(205) : main: Viewer version 5.1.0.507412 2017-08-12T18:56:23Z INFO: SL_Launcher(140) : capture_vmp_args: Parsing passed arguments: ['--set', 'InstallLanguage', 'en'] 2017-08-12T18:56:23Z INFO: vmp_util.py(88) : stream: ======== running subcommand ['wmic', 'path', 'Win32_VideoController', 'get', 'NAME']; any stderr follows 2017-08-12T18:56:23Z INFO: vmp_util.py(88) : stream: Unhandled exception: <type 'exceptions.WindowsError'> Python 2.7.13: C:\Program Files\SecondLifeViewer\SL_Launcher.exe Sat Aug 12 14:56:23 2017 A problem occurred in a Python script. Here is the sequence of function calls leading up to the error, in the order they occurred. C:\Program Files\SecondLifeViewer\SL_Launcher in <module>() C:\Program Files\SecondLifeViewer\SL_Launcher in main() C:\Program Files\SecondLifeViewer\update_manager.py in update_manager(cli_overrides={'channel': None, 'forceaddresssize': None, 'set': {'UpdaterMaximumBandwidth': None, 'UpdaterServiceCheckPeriod': None, 'UpdaterServiceSetting': None, 'UpdaterServiceURL': None, 'UpdaterWillingToTest': None}, 'settings': None}) C:\Program Files\SecondLifeViewer\update_manager.py in query_vvm(platform_key='win', settings={'AFKTimeout': {'Comment': '\n Time before automatically setti... Valid values are: 0, 120, 300, 600, 1800\n', 'Type': 'S32', 'Value': '0'}, 'AvatarNameTagMode': {'Comment': 'Select Avatar Name Tag Mode', 'Type': 'S32', 'Value': '0'}, 'CurrentGrid': {'Comment': 'Currently Selected Grid', 'Type': 'String', 'Value': 'util.agni.lindenlab.com'}, 'EnableVoiceChat': {'Comment': 'Enable talking to other residents with a microphone', 'Type': 'Boolean', 'Value': 0}, 'FirstRunThisInstall': {'Comment': 'Specifies that you have not run the viewer since you performed a clean install', 'Type': 'Boolean', 'Value': False}, 'ForceAddressSize': None, 'HttpProxyType': {'Comment': 'Proxy type to use for HTTP operations', 'Type': 'String', 'Value': 'None'}, 'LastFeatureVersion': {'Comment': '[DO NOT MODIFY] Feature Table Version number for tracking rendering system changes', 'Type': 'S32', 'Value': 33}, 'LastGPUString': {'Comment': '[DO NOT MODIFY] previous GPU id string for tracking hardware changes', 'Type': 'String', 'Value': 'NVIDIA Corporation GeForce GTX 780/PCIe/SSE2'}, 'LastPrefTab': {'Comment': 'Last selected tab in preferences window', 'Type': 'S32', 'Value': 3}, ...}, UpdaterServiceURL=u'https://update.secondlife.com/update', UpdaterWillingToTest=None) C:\Program Files\SecondLifeViewer\update_manager.py in getBitness(platform_key='win', settings={'AFKTimeout': {'Comment': '\n Time before automatically setti... Valid values are: 0, 120, 300, 600, 1800\n', 'Type': 'S32', 'Value': '0'}, 'AvatarNameTagMode': {'Comment': 'Select Avatar Name Tag Mode', 'Type': 'S32', 'Value': '0'}, 'CurrentGrid': {'Comment': 'Currently Selected Grid', 'Type': 'String', 'Value': 'util.agni.lindenlab.com'}, 'EnableVoiceChat': {'Comment': 'Enable talking to other residents with a microphone', 'Type': 'Boolean', 'Value': 0}, 'FirstRunThisInstall': {'Comment': 'Specifies that you have not run the viewer since you performed a clean install', 'Type': 'Boolean', 'Value': False}, 'ForceAddressSize': None, 'HttpProxyType': {'Comment': 'Proxy type to use for HTTP operations', 'Type': 'String', 'Value': 'None'}, 'LastFeatureVersion': {'Comment': '[DO NOT MODIFY] Feature Table Version number for tracking rendering system changes', 'Type': 'S32', 'Value': 33}, 'LastGPUString': {'Comment': '[DO NOT MODIFY] previous GPU id string for tracking hardware changes', 'Type': 'String', 'Value': 'NVIDIA Corporation GeForce GTX 780/PCIe/SSE2'}, 'LastPrefTab': {'Comment': 'Last selected tab in preferences window', 'Type': 'S32', 'Value': 3}, ...}) C:\Program Files\SecondLifeViewer\subprocess.py in check_output(*popenargs=(['wmic', 'path', 'Win32_VideoController', 'get', 'NAME'],), **kwargs={'env': {'TMP': 'C:\\Users\\iceki\\AppData\\Local\\Temp'...sers\\Public', 'USERPROFILE': 'C:\\Users\\iceki'}, 'startupinfo': <subprocess.STARTUPINFO instance>, 'stderr': <open file u'C:\\Users\\iceki\\AppData\\Roaming\\SecondLife\\logs\\SL_Launcher.log', mode 'a'>, 'stdin': -1}) C:\Program Files\SecondLifeViewer\subprocess.py in __init__(self=<subprocess.Popen object>, args=['wmic', 'path', 'Win32_VideoController', 'get', 'NAME'], bufsize=0, executable=None, stdin=-1, stdout=-1, stderr=<open file u'C:\\Users\\iceki\\AppData\\Roaming\\SecondLife\\logs\\SL_Launcher.log', mode 'a'>, preexec_fn=None, close_fds=False, shell=False, cwd=None, env={'TMP': 'C:\\Users\\iceki\\AppData\\Local\\Temp'...sers\\Public', 'USERPROFILE': 'C:\\Users\\iceki'}, universal_newlines=False, startupinfo=<subprocess.STARTUPINFO instance>, creationflags=0) C:\Program Files\SecondLifeViewer\subprocess.py in _execute_child(self=<subprocess.Popen object>, args='wmic path Win32_VideoController get NAME', executable=None, preexec_fn=None, close_fds=False, cwd=None, env={'TMP': 'C:\\Users\\iceki\\AppData\\Local\\Temp'...sers\\Public', 'USERPROFILE': 'C:\\Users\\iceki'}, universal_newlines=False, startupinfo=<subprocess.STARTUPINFO instance>, creationflags=0, shell=False, to_close=set([<_subprocess_handle object>, <_subprocess_handle object>]), p2cread=<_subprocess_handle object>, p2cwrite=<_subprocess_handle object>, c2pread=<_subprocess_handle object>, c2pwrite=<_subprocess_handle object>, errread=None, errwrite=<_subprocess_handle object>) <type 'exceptions.WindowsError'>: [Error 2] The system cannot find the file specified __class__ = <type 'exceptions.WindowsError'> __delattr__ = <method-wrapper '__delattr__' of exceptions.WindowsError object> __dict__ = {} __doc__ = 'MS-Windows OS system call failed.' __format__ = <built-in method __format__ of exceptions.WindowsError object> __getattribute__ = <method-wrapper '__getattribute__' of exceptions.WindowsError object> __getitem__ = <method-wrapper '__getitem__' of exceptions.WindowsError object> __getslice__ = <method-wrapper '__getslice__' of exceptions.WindowsError object> __hash__ = <method-wrapper '__hash__' of exceptions.WindowsError object> __init__ = <method-wrapper '__init__' of exceptions.WindowsError object> __new__ = <built-in method __new__ of type object> __reduce__ = <built-in method __reduce__ of exceptions.WindowsError object> __reduce_ex__ = <built-in method __reduce_ex__ of exceptions.WindowsError object> __repr__ = <method-wrapper '__repr__' of exceptions.WindowsError object> __setattr__ = <method-wrapper '__setattr__' of exceptions.WindowsError object> __setstate__ = <built-in method __setstate__ of exceptions.WindowsError object> __sizeof__ = <built-in method __sizeof__ of exceptions.WindowsError object> __str__ = <method-wrapper '__str__' of exceptions.WindowsError object> __subclasshook__ = <built-in method __subclasshook__ of type object> __unicode__ = <built-in method __unicode__ of exceptions.WindowsError object> args = (2, 'The system cannot find the file specified') errno = 2 filename = None message = '' strerror = 'The system cannot find the file specified' winerror = 2 The above is a description of an error in a Python program. Here is the original traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File "SL_Launcher", line 311, in <module> File "SL_Launcher", line 241, in main File "update_manager.py", line 735, in update_manager File "update_manager.py", line 358, in query_vvm File "update_manager.py", line 268, in getBitness File "subprocess.py", line 212, in check_output File "subprocess.py", line 390, in __init__ File "subprocess.py", line 640, in _execute_child WindowsError: [Error 2] The system cannot find the file specified 2017-08-12T18:56:25Z INFO: vmp_util.py(60) : getLogger: ================ Running SL_Launcher 2017-08-12T18:56:25Z INFO: SL_Launcher(205) : main: Viewer version 5.1.0.507412 2017-08-12T18:56:25Z INFO: SL_Launcher(140) : capture_vmp_args: Parsing passed arguments: ['--set', 'InstallLanguage', 'en'] 2017-08-12T18:56:25Z INFO: vmp_util.py(88) : stream: ======== running subcommand ['wmic', 'path', 'Win32_VideoController', 'get', 'NAME']; any stderr follows 2017-08-12T18:56:25Z INFO: vmp_util.py(88) : stream: Unhandled exception: <type 'exceptions.WindowsError'> Python 2.7.13: C:\Program Files\SecondLifeViewer\SL_Launcher.exe Sat Aug 12 14:56:25 2017 A problem occurred in a Python script. Here is the sequence of function calls leading up to the error, in the order they occurred. C:\Program Files\SecondLifeViewer\SL_Launcher in <module>() C:\Program Files\SecondLifeViewer\SL_Launcher in main() C:\Program Files\SecondLifeViewer\update_manager.py in update_manager(cli_overrides={'channel': None, 'forceaddresssize': None, 'set': {'UpdaterMaximumBandwidth': None, 'UpdaterServiceCheckPeriod': None, 'UpdaterServiceSetting': None, 'UpdaterServiceURL': None, 'UpdaterWillingToTest': None}, 'settings': None}) C:\Program Files\SecondLifeViewer\update_manager.py in query_vvm(platform_key='win', settings={'AFKTimeout': {'Comment': '\n Time before automatically setti... Valid values are: 0, 120, 300, 600, 1800\n', 'Type': 'S32', 'Value': '0'}, 'AvatarNameTagMode': {'Comment': 'Select Avatar Name Tag Mode', 'Type': 'S32', 'Value': '0'}, 'CurrentGrid': {'Comment': 'Currently Selected Grid', 'Type': 'String', 'Value': 'util.agni.lindenlab.com'}, 'EnableVoiceChat': {'Comment': 'Enable talking to other residents with a microphone', 'Type': 'Boolean', 'Value': 0}, 'FirstRunThisInstall': {'Comment': 'Specifies that you have not run the viewer since you performed a clean install', 'Type': 'Boolean', 'Value': False}, 'ForceAddressSize': None, 'HttpProxyType': {'Comment': 'Proxy type to use for HTTP operations', 'Type': 'String', 'Value': 'None'}, 'LastFeatureVersion': {'Comment': '[DO NOT MODIFY] Feature Table Version number for tracking rendering system changes', 'Type': 'S32', 'Value': 33}, 'LastGPUString': {'Comment': '[DO NOT MODIFY] previous GPU id string for tracking hardware changes', 'Type': 'String', 'Value': 'NVIDIA Corporation GeForce GTX 780/PCIe/SSE2'}, 'LastPrefTab': {'Comment': 'Last selected tab in preferences window', 'Type': 'S32', 'Value': 3}, ...}, UpdaterServiceURL=u'https://update.secondlife.com/update', UpdaterWillingToTest=None) C:\Program Files\SecondLifeViewer\update_manager.py in getBitness(platform_key='win', settings={'AFKTimeout': {'Comment': '\n Time before automatically setti... Valid values are: 0, 120, 300, 600, 1800\n', 'Type': 'S32', 'Value': '0'}, 'AvatarNameTagMode': {'Comment': 'Select Avatar Name Tag Mode', 'Type': 'S32', 'Value': '0'}, 'CurrentGrid': {'Comment': 'Currently Selected Grid', 'Type': 'String', 'Value': 'util.agni.lindenlab.com'}, 'EnableVoiceChat': {'Comment': 'Enable talking to other residents with a microphone', 'Type': 'Boolean', 'Value': 0}, 'FirstRunThisInstall': {'Comment': 'Specifies that you have not run the viewer since you performed a clean install', 'Type': 'Boolean', 'Value': False}, 'ForceAddressSize': None, 'HttpProxyType': {'Comment': 'Proxy type to use for HTTP operations', 'Type': 'String', 'Value': 'None'}, 'LastFeatureVersion': {'Comment': '[DO NOT MODIFY] Feature Table Version number for tracking rendering system changes', 'Type': 'S32', 'Value': 33}, 'LastGPUString': {'Comment': '[DO NOT MODIFY] previous GPU id string for tracking hardware changes', 'Type': 'String', 'Value': 'NVIDIA Corporation GeForce GTX 780/PCIe/SSE2'}, 'LastPrefTab': {'Comment': 'Last selected tab in preferences window', 'Type': 'S32', 'Value': 3}, ...}) C:\Program Files\SecondLifeViewer\subprocess.py in check_output(*popenargs=(['wmic', 'path', 'Win32_VideoController', 'get', 'NAME'],), **kwargs={'env': {'TMP': 'C:\\Users\\iceki\\AppData\\Local\\Temp'...sers\\Public', 'USERPROFILE': 'C:\\Users\\iceki'}, 'startupinfo': <subprocess.STARTUPINFO instance>, 'stderr': <open file u'C:\\Users\\iceki\\AppData\\Roaming\\SecondLife\\logs\\SL_Launcher.log', mode 'a'>, 'stdin': -1}) C:\Program Files\SecondLifeViewer\subprocess.py in __init__(self=<subprocess.Popen object>, args=['wmic', 'path', 'Win32_VideoController', 'get', 'NAME'], bufsize=0, executable=None, stdin=-1, stdout=-1, stderr=<open file u'C:\\Users\\iceki\\AppData\\Roaming\\SecondLife\\logs\\SL_Launcher.log', mode 'a'>, preexec_fn=None, close_fds=False, shell=False, cwd=None, env={'TMP': 'C:\\Users\\iceki\\AppData\\Local\\Temp'...sers\\Public', 'USERPROFILE': 'C:\\Users\\iceki'}, universal_newlines=False, startupinfo=<subprocess.STARTUPINFO instance>, creationflags=0) C:\Program Files\SecondLifeViewer\subprocess.py in _execute_child(self=<subprocess.Popen object>, args='wmic path Win32_VideoController get NAME', executable=None, preexec_fn=None, close_fds=False, cwd=None, env={'TMP': 'C:\\Users\\iceki\\AppData\\Local\\Temp'...sers\\Public', 'USERPROFILE': 'C:\\Users\\iceki'}, universal_newlines=False, startupinfo=<subprocess.STARTUPINFO instance>, creationflags=0, shell=False, to_close=set([<_subprocess_handle object>, <_subprocess_handle object>]), p2cread=<_subprocess_handle object>, p2cwrite=<_subprocess_handle object>, c2pread=<_subprocess_handle object>, c2pwrite=<_subprocess_handle object>, errread=None, errwrite=<_subprocess_handle object>) <type 'exceptions.WindowsError'>: [Error 2] The system cannot find the file specified __class__ = <type 'exceptions.WindowsError'> __delattr__ = <method-wrapper '__delattr__' of exceptions.WindowsError object> __dict__ = {} __doc__ = 'MS-Windows OS system call failed.' __format__ = <built-in method __format__ of exceptions.WindowsError object> __getattribute__ = <method-wrapper '__getattribute__' of exceptions.WindowsError object> __getitem__ = <method-wrapper '__getitem__' of exceptions.WindowsError object> __getslice__ = <method-wrapper '__getslice__' of exceptions.WindowsError object> __hash__ = <method-wrapper '__hash__' of exceptions.WindowsError object> __init__ = <method-wrapper '__init__' of exceptions.WindowsError object> __new__ = <built-in method __new__ of type object> __reduce__ = <built-in method __reduce__ of exceptions.WindowsError object> __reduce_ex__ = <built-in method __reduce_ex__ of exceptions.WindowsError object> __repr__ = <method-wrapper '__repr__' of exceptions.WindowsError object> __setattr__ = <method-wrapper '__setattr__' of exceptions.WindowsError object> __setstate__ = <built-in method __setstate__ of exceptions.WindowsError object> __sizeof__ = <built-in method __sizeof__ of exceptions.WindowsError object> __str__ = <method-wrapper '__str__' of exceptions.WindowsError object> __subclasshook__ = <built-in method __subclasshook__ of type object> __unicode__ = <built-in method __unicode__ of exceptions.WindowsError object> args = (2, 'The system cannot find the file specified') errno = 2 filename = None message = '' strerror = 'The system cannot find the file specified' winerror = 2 The above is a description of an error in a Python program. Here is the original traceback: Traceback (most recent call last): File "SL_Launcher", line 311, in <module> File "SL_Launcher", line 241, in main File "update_manager.py", line 735, in update_manager File "update_manager.py", line 358, in query_vvm File "update_manager.py", line 268, in getBitness File "subprocess.py", line 212, in check_output File "subprocess.py", line 390, in __init__ File "subprocess.py", line 640, in _execute_child WindowsError: [Error 2] The system cannot find the file specified

get a spinner loading icon on mouse pointer for a second and no errors nothing never opens or runs also tried running as admin same thing i made a video of install ect this is what i get when I try firestorm viewer made a video too

I don't have firestorm installed right now My PC Windows 10 Pro 64-bit Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K (4 Cores), ~3.5GHz Corsair Vengeance Pro 1600MHz DDR3 32GB (4 x 8GB) Asus Maximus VI Hero SAMSUNG 50" LED HDTV model UN50EH6000FXZC @ 1920x1080 EVGA GeForce GTX 780 SC P/N: 03G-P4-2783-KR Connection HDMI to HDMI Crucial M500 960GB SSD Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium HD @ 192000 Hz 24 bit Creative Sound Blaster E5 DAC & AMP LG BH14NS40 rom Logitech Wireless Keyboard K350 Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum Logitech Dual Action Gamepad Logitech C922 Pro Stream Webcam Blue Yeti Pro Microphone @ 192000 Hz 24 bit Panasonic Technics RP-DH1250 Thermaltake Toughpower Grand 750W Cooler Master HAF 932 Firestorm 5.0.7 (52912) Jun 13 2017 03:57:58 (Firestorm-Releasex64) with OpenSimulator support Release Notes CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz (3499.98 MHz) Memory: 32707 MB OS Version: Microsoft Windows 10 64-bit (Build 14393) Graphics Card Vendor: NVIDIA Corporation Graphics Card: GeForce GTX 780/PCIe/SSE2 Windows Graphics Driver Version: 22.21.0013.8253 OpenGL Version: 4.5.0 NVIDIA 382.53 RestrainedLove API: (disabled) libcurl Version: libcurl/7.47.0 OpenSSL/1.0.1i zlib/1.2.8 J2C Decoder Version: KDU v7.9.1 Audio Driver Version: FMOD Ex 4.44.61 LLCEFLib/CEF Version: 1.5.3-(CEF-WIN-3.2526.1347-32) LibVLC Version: 2.2.4 Voice Server Version: Not Connected Settings mode: Firestorm Viewer Skin: Firestorm (Grey) Window size: 1920x1017 px Font Used: Deja Vu (96 dpi) Font Size Adjustment: 0 pt UI Scaling: 1 Draw distance: 128 m Bandwidth: 500 kbit/s LOD factor: 2 Render quality: High-Ultra (6/7) Advanced Lighting Model: Yes Texture memory: 1024 MB (1) VFS (cache) creation time (UTC): 2017-8-12T17:6:41 Built with MSVC version 1800 August 12 2017 09:18:14 SLT

Out of curiosity how did you get the linden 64bit viewer to run? it hasn't run for me since its inception this viewer right? http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_Release/5.1.0.507412 the 64bit firestorm viewer works though

Perrie Juran wrote: iceing Braveheart wrote: since linden labs cannot fix or make there own software run properly they are going to try and dictate how users operate and use there computers wether or not it is right or wrong by adding more blocks and manipulating people personally I think linden labs should mind there own ******* businesses but that is just me I applaud this decision. I wish there was a way for more Internet Services to restrict access for people who run Unsecure Systems. They bog the whole Internet down and force me to have to be constantly diligent to keep my own System secure. first don't troll because you have nothing better to do with your life second don't blame anyone else for problems with your borked computer third you may want to petition to have linden labs shut down there services and wed sites until they are made secure and safe if that is really how you feel. just an example facebook yahoo and most shockingly even youtube are https http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_Secure

Freya Mokusei wrote: [Source] This sounds like a junk argument (especially if you claim you're doing this for security reasons). You're welcome to hang out in the stone age, but don't expect others to slow down for you. It's a waste of development time LL supporting XP when MSFT don't. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/285912 To resolve this issue, contact your video adapter manufacturer for information about how to obtain and install a Windows XP video adapter driver that supports the OpenGL standard. Note that you may be able to use a Microsoft Windows 2000 video adapter driver on your Windows XP-based computer. people like amd and nvidia and intel make these drivers and not microsoft or linden labs so it really doesn't matter what microsoft has to say these companies general send microsoft the drivers and then they are listed in updates microsoft has little to nothing to do with the drivers them selfs second life is opengl leave it to second life to defraud the average consumer and block them from accessing anything they have purchased in world with real life currency with out a single legal or legitimate reason http://www.ehow.com/how_6315456_install-opengl-windows-xp.html example modern new beta GEFORCE 337.50 DRIVER (BETA) Version: 337.50 BETA Release Date: 2014.4.7 Operating System: Windows XP Language: English (US) File Size: 136.00 MB http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/74639/en-us second example moderately older driver describing more in depth support GEFORCE 332.21 DRIVER Version: 332.21 Release Date: 2014.1.7 Operating System: Windows XP Language: English (US) File Size: 122.00 MB Supports OpenGL 4.4 for GeForce 400-series and later GPUs. http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/71702/en-us http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenGL#OpenGL_4.4 what does linden labs do for windows xp or any operating system? nothing besides troll harass with blockers innocent consumers hardware and operating systems trying to dictate like a tyrant

your soul reason for posting in the forum is for trolling? this forum must really lack moderation

Pussycat Catnap wrote: iceing Braveheart wrote: since linden labs cannot fix or make there own software run properly they are going to try and dictate how users operate and use there computers wether or not it is right or wrong by adding more blocks and manipulating people personally I think linden labs should mind there own ******* businesses but that is just me Wingnut Why respond if all you can do is use profanity and have nothing productive or logical or on topic to say? surely you do not work in real life as they would of fired you on spot post hast

Perrie Juran wrote: Canoro Philipp wrote: it it works under the system that Rex Cronon is using, why block it just because its old? maybe is too much of a job for the Lindens to test the new releases in a wide variety of operating systems and configurations, so they minimize that job by testing only with the latest lunix, windows and Mac OS, probably with the new releases things are not gonna work well on untested operating systems, thats a risk that the user would have to deal with it, but why block it for the users if it works, just to minimize their work load? they should let the user get the risk, and if something is a showstoper they should let the user decide if they are willing to live with the problem, or when they have decide or have the resources to do it, upgrade. it remembers me when mesh came, people were blocked because they didnt have SSE2 capable processors, their viewers were still able to log in, they just didnt see mesh correctly, and some users were willing to live with it while they took the time to save money or travel to a place where computers were sold to upgrade their computers, with the blocking, based on the "shared experience", merchants and people that had jobs and other important things in-world, they just had to give up SL and wait for when the time comes when they are able to upgrade. blocking a product that works, as much as the user is willing to stand, provides a lot of disadvantages to the user. Well, right now LL has not mandated this for the TPV's plus they haven't said he can't log in so if he wants he can rework the code himself or use a TPV. But I'll say it again, supporting an UNSECURE system does a dis-service to us all. Quoting from the Server Group Logs: A[19:37:57] Simon Linden: The viewer group has a pretty good idea of the usage for various OS and hardware ... this kind of decision isn't made lightly A[19:38:17] Rex Cronon: imo that is a "genius" idea. lets see how empty ll will get:( A[19:38:21] Whirly Fizzle: XP has a bloody awful crash rate. Most of the out of memory crashes we see in FS support are on XP 32 bit. A[19:38:28] Simon Linden: I do know that a disproportioned about [sp? amount?] of crashes and graphics problems are on the older hardware. I I don't think that Oz and Simon and the other Linden's are going out of their way to sabatoge SL or to simply reduce their work load. It was not a decision they made lightly. This really isn't good enough your not gonna lose enough money for next goal a suggestion would be to block drivers and software if your not using norton anti virus and have a active subscription blocked since it is not safe and runs risk of crashes if your not using zone alarm pro firewall blocked since it runs risk of crashes and is not safe to not have a professional firewall at all times while connected to the internet if your not using pre selected video card drivers by linden labs blocked since it runs risk of compatibility issues and crashes and unsafe you will have to chose wether running second life is more important to you then playing your favorite video games or testing beta drivers overclocked computers with overclocked processors and gpu's video cards some are even manufactured over clocked overclocking may result in instability and crashes linden labs should region block if users are not american if users connect from around the world will have a lagy experience which can allow for lag cheating in combat sims which is not safe or fair and lag can also result in crashes so please more blocks hurry it is urgent since linden labs cannot fix or make there own software run properly they are going to try and dictate how users operate and use there computers wether or not it is right or wrong by adding more blocks and manipulating people personally I think linden labs should mind there own ******* businesses but that is just me

With the money I save from this change I am going to buy a new 80" 4k TV and more toys!:manvery-happy:

Pussycat Catnap wrote: You can't reasonable expect LLs to support software and hardware who's own makers no longer support it. I never asked lindens to provide direct support for my operating system but if they feel the need to block then good riddance to trash as for your comment about hardware thats a joke new hardware doesn't even work with linden labs crappy software because they block that also have to wait a few years for the lazy ********* to add a line to txt to the viewer

Perrie Juran wrote: Updates to the Second Life System Requirements We have made some changes to the Second Life System Requirements to bring them more up to date, and are making some related changes to the Viewer: We have removed Windows XP and Mac OSX 10.6 from the list of supported operating systems. Microsoft has announced the end of support for XP, and it has been some time since Apple has released updates for 10.6. For some time now, the Viewer has been significantly less stable on these older systems, and the lack of security updates to them make them more hazardous to use. We have no plans to actually block those systems, but problems reported on them that cannot be reproduced on supported systems will not likely be fixed. The Windows installer has been modified to verify that the system has been updated with the most recent Service Packs from Microsoft. While we will not block installation on Windows 8 at this time, we strongly recommend upgrading to 8.1 for greater stability. Our data shows that the Viewer is significantly less stable on systems that have not been kept up to date, so the installer will now block installation until the updates have been applied. This change will be effective in a Viewer version to be released in the next few weeks, so it would be a good idea to get your system up to date before then. You can find information on how to install the latest updates at the Microsoft Windows Update page. ____________________________________________________________________ http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Tools-and-Technology/Updates-to-the-Second-Life-System-Requirements/ba-p/2643650 Thx for the heads up first linden labs blocks my gpu/video card now they will block my os I wont be purchasing any linden L$ now thank you saved me rl $$$

Daisonia wrote: I can't get shadows on this laptop. I WANT SHADOWS. Firestorm 4.4.2 (34167) Jul 1 2013 23:33:25 (Firestorm-Release) with Havok support Release Notes You are at 131,634.0, 232,799.0, 2,499.5 in Masenko located at sim10131.agni.lindenlab.com (216.82.48.197:13016) Second Life Server 13.11.22.284268 Retrieving... CPU: Intel® Core i3-2330M CPU @ 2.20GHz (2192.94 MHz) Memory: 3991 MB OS Version: Microsoft Windows 7 64-bit Service Pack 1 (Build 7601) Graphics Card Vendor: Intel Graphics Card: Intel® HD Graphics Family Windows Graphics Driver Version: 8.15.0010.2345 OpenGL Version: 3.1.0 - Build 8.15.10.2345 RestrainedLove API: RLV v2.7.0 / RLVa v1.4.8a libcurl Version: libcurl/7.21.1 OpenSSL/1.0.0d zlib/1.2.5 c-ares/1.7.1 J2C Decoder Version: KDU v7.1 Audio Driver Version: FMOD version 3.750000 Qt Webkit Version: 4.7.1 (version number hard-coded) Voice Server Version: Vivox 2.1.3010.6270 Settings mode: Firestorm Viewer Skin: Firestorm (Grey) Font Used: Deja Vu (96) Draw distance: 64 Bandwidth: 1500 LOD factor: 1.5 Render quality: Low (1/7) Built with MSVC version 1600 Packets Lost: 31/33,310 (0.1%) When you say you want shadows do you mean you cant enable shadows with in the client? is the shadows option grayed out? have you tried installing the driver for your graphics card? Intel® HD Graphics Driver for Windows 7/8/8.1 64-bit also with in the second life viewer the option will be grayed out until you turn the graphic's quality up to Mid and check Advanced Lighting Model

Daisonia wrote: I travel a lot. This is why I use laptops and not desktops. I was researchin the Toshiba and people wer sayin that the screen resolution wasn't so good. I have a Dell Inspiron.. Hopefully it's not worse than that. So here are the laptop choices again. VIZIO - 15.6" Notebook - 8 GB Memory - 1 TB Hard Drive and 32 GB Solid State Drive - NVIDIA GeForce GT 640M LE Toshiba - Satellite 15.6" Laptop - 8GB Memory - 1TB Hard Drive - Ice Silver - NVIDIA GeForce GT 740M graphics Acer - 15.6" Aspire Ultrabook - 8 GB Memory - 750 GB Hard Drive - GeForce GT 720M Toshiba - Qosmio 17.3" Laptop - 16GB Memory - 500GB Hard Drive + 500GB Hard Drive NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770M CyberPowerPC - Fangbook Evo 17.3" Laptop - 16GB Memory - 1TB Hard Drive - Black/Gray NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770M MSI - 17.3" Laptop - 8GB Memory - 1TB Hard Drive - Black NVIDIA GeForce GTX770M CyberPowerPC - Fangbook 17.3" Laptop - 16GB Memory - 750GB Hard Drive + 250GB Solid State Drive - Gray NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780M graphics if there is no budget and you wanna game on a laptop get something with a GeForce GTX 780M minimum. most users only need 8GB system ram, ssd's solid state drives are not required they are optional but will increase costs as much as high end video cards information and documentation is limited on laptops but it does not look like nvidia starts to increase power on the GeForce 700M (7xxM) Series until GeForce GTX 770M so the 770M would be en entrance card for gaming and things would get better as you went up to 775M and 780M GeForce GTX 770M similar to Desktop GTX660 GeForce GTX 775M similar to Desktop GTX670 GeForce GTX 780M similar to Desktop GTX770 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Nvidia_graphics_processing_units#GeForce_700M_.287xxM.29_Series

SweetArashi wrote: I've been looking into getting a desktop to replace my laptop for SL/Everyday/Sims 3 use. I'm in no particular hurry, so if there's a good time of year to get a new computer, please tell me. My budget is 600-900 USD and that's to include the monitor. I already have a fairly good wireless keyboard/mouse. I'm thinking the following build: 8GB RAM Intel i5 4th Gen Processor 1GB GPU [Whichever is pretty good in that price range] Windows 8.1 [Apple is out of my reach and I'm unfamiliar with other OSes and I'm not a techie] The RAM for both the GPU and motherboard I might go up on. It depends on what I can find that will fit the budget. I would generally like to be able to have someone [or learn to do it myself] upgrade the parts as necessary. I like Hewlett Packard, but if there's a better company out there, I am open to suggestions. And I live in the USA. Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus - Mid Tower Computer Case with Windowed Side Panel and USB 3.0 $54.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119256 Western Digital WD Black WD5003AZEX 500GB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive Bare Drive $74.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236345 EVGA 02G-P4-2761-KR GeForce GTX 760 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 SLI Support Video Card $249.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130935 Thermaltake Smart SP-650MPCBUS 650W Intel ATX 12V 2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply $89.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153186 CORSAIR Vengeance Pro 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMY8GX3M2A1600C9A $99.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233586 ASUS Z87M-PLUS LGA 1150 Intel Z87 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 uATX Intel Motherboard $134.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131984 Intel Core i5-4670 Haswell 3.4GHz LGA 1150 84W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics BX80646I54670 $219.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116898 SAMSUNG Black 18X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM SATA DVD-ROM Drive Model SH-118BB $16.99 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151267 Grand Total:* $941.92

Summer Tison wrote: iceing Braveheart wrote: with the exception of my last pc all my pc's in history have never worked with sl it is good to have closure finally as to what the bloody hell was wrong with the app second life all these years and I stand by thread title, businesses like to grow and gain/increase profit this hole apps a cash shop micro transaction shop I cannot see how second life can achieve this when there software will not work with store bought pc's most people will not go to the forum just shrug it off and leave look for something else to do, and those who contact linden lab's will be blow en off with a copy and past message and support ticket closed saying take a hike file a bug report in the jira and if they do fallow through and file the jira they will find them selfs in a situation that is being back burned and there jira ticket closed as duplicate along with 1,000's of others before them the forum is about the only place I can find to leave feedback for this particular app as the support system & jira appears worthless in this situation this is second life's future on the current path they walk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyberTown So it's not just new PC's that don't work with SL? Just go to IMVU if that works for you, or play WoW or one of the other many games that you can access on your PC. IF LL read these forums, they have seen your complaint, so rambling on about it is futile. Second Life is flawed by design perhaps Linden Lab's could elaborate on it but I have no idea for motive for why they did it. it Linden lab's has scripts in there client software where you are required to have there expressed permission in order to run the second life on any pc component even though second life recently added my card to the gpu table so that I can run it I am not sure that I really care anymore. after being trolled out on this thread by countless second life users, fan boys, elitists ect that defend sl when they know not of what they talk about. it has taken some where around 7 months real life time for second life to unblock my hardware and I really think it was a result after making this thread only had I not of made this thread it probably would of been back burned for several more years I have no idea what second life runs like on a new modern pc because second life does not support a personal computer only after my card was replaced retired did they feel it was good enough to add it to the gpu table I am not sure I am going to return to second life as I don't want to wast anymore money and time on this catastrophe of an app the only thing second life has done is provide a band aid to a water pipe either way sooner or later down the road my video card pc ect will die or need to be replaced and it will be the exact same mess all over again it is kinda crazy that customers would have to deal with this kind of none sense when the servers linden lab's rent's cost customers $1000's of dollars because linden lab's refuse to let the customer host them the marketplace really isn't much cheaper either I have no idea who at linden lab's is running the show but I think a 4 year old could make better software decisions and choices I think the risk of loss is far to great with this app and technology so I will back burner it and stop investing and steer clear of for now and watch and wait from the side lines then get caught in the cross fire again and end up dealing with this all over again oh no I also forgot Linden Lab's did have have the time to go into these files to prevent the customer from coping and pasting in the files from 3rd party viewers to get it to work as a work around but linden lab's needed to seal that up quick and blocked it again but again zero support and blocked a lovely company if I owned stock I would liquidate it I don't play IMVU or WoW suggesting users go play another app or game really isn't helpful or a solution to Linden Lab's and customers problems there is no if an's or buts about it this pc will be replaced not long down the road one way or another so it most definitely will not work with second life at a future date this app has gone from fun enjoyment to being a thorn in my side the only way to get second life to run is to go to university and become a programer or post in forums and hope someone with some programing expertise can help you out and there will always be delays and may be times when you may not find anyone

KarenMichelle Lane wrote: Good Morning Everyone. Please find in this new version of the SL V3 Viewer some long awaited GPU Table Updates. http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_Release/3.6.9.282553 Good Testing to you all. P.S. The SL Share feature is has been merged into this release as well. This version appears to work though I would still prefer Linden Lab's still remove the script blocking hardware from second life as they are unable to be transparent about it so that I and no one else has to go through this again in the future http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_Release/3.6.10.282997

with the exception of my last pc all my pc's in history have never worked with sl it is good to have closure finally as to what the bloody hell was wrong with the app second life all these years and I stand by thread title, businesses like to grow and gain/increase profit this hole apps a cash shop micro transaction shop I cannot see how second life can achieve this when there software will not work with store bought pc's most people will not go to the forum just shrug it off and leave look for something else to do, and those who contact linden lab's will be blow en off with a copy and past message and support ticket closed saying take a hike file a bug report in the jira and if they do fallow through and file the jira they will find them selfs in a situation that is being back burned and there jira ticket closed as duplicate along with 1,000's of others before them the forum is about the only place I can find to leave feedback for this particular app as the support system & jira appears worthless in this situation this is second life's future on the current path they walk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyberTown

Bobbie Faulds wrote: Once again with the sweeping generalizations. 46,368 people right now would disagree with you. Just because YOU are having problems with YOUR computer and SL doesn't mean SL doesn't run on PCs. I'm having no problems with mine and apparently neither are the other 46K players online at the time of this post. So, quit whining because SL programmers haven't added your brand new shiney. Bottom line is, you seem to think that you are the center of the universe and if your system doesn't run SL, then none are. Hubris, much? you are backwards second life is having problems with there software, my pc runs great, but thx for asking there is a difference between thinking you are center of the universe and asking linden lab's to fix there own mistakes, with there app second life they need to get rid of that bloody script blocking hardware it is absurd I don't get why they ever created it in the first place, until they remove it the cycle will never end nor will the problems with there software, I got windows 7 in 2009 and my video card in 2013 I never needed a gpu table from microsoft for the hardware to work just my basic drivers, why the bloody hell do you need a gpu table for sl to work? why do no other games or apps use a gpu table? why does imvu work with out a gpu table? if they didn't make there software borked then maybe they wouldn't be trailing so far behind in likes? 329,033 likes · 3,265 talking about this https://www.facebook.com/secondlife 3,776,408 likes · 15,598 talking about this https://www.facebook.com/IMVU so do you have any real suggestions for a 3D social game? since second life doesn't support a pc

here is my PC Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit Intel® Core i7-4770K (4 CPUs), ~3.5GHz Corsair Vengeance Pro DDR3 16GB (2 x 8GB) 1600MHz Asus Maximus VI Hero SAMSUNG 50" LED HDTV @ 1920x1080 EVGA GeForce GTX 780 SC P/N: 03G-P4-2783-KR Connection HDMI to HDMI Western Digital Silicon Blue Edge 256GB SSD Western Digital Black 1TB HDD LG BH14NS40 rom Logitech Wireless Keyboard K350 Logitech Wireless Gaming Mouse G700 Logitech Dual Action Gamepad Thermaltake Toughpower Grand 750W Cooler Master HAF 932 anyone know of any other 3D chat apps I could play since second life doesn't support a pc?

KarenMichelle Lane wrote: Good Morning Everyone. Please find in this new version of the SL V3 Viewer some long awaited GPU Table Updates. http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Release_Notes/Second_Life_Release/3.6.9.282553 Good Testing to you all. P.S. The SL Share feature is has been merged into this release as well. doesn't work produces crazy flickering note cards render purple just a real mess