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  1. 2 hours ago, Coffee Pancake said:

    I help mod the SecondLife subreddit.

    We do keep the place more strictly about SL simply because the rest of reddit is right there, we will even remove posts about ex lindens or competing worlds. Metaverse and blockchain stuff is just blacklisted.

    That doesn't really work so well here as a self contained community, clamping down here just encourages people to move on to other places, and it will be the most committed and minorities that go first, it always is. It wont have the desired effect of making this into an "SL is awesome echo chamber", if anything .. the tone will get significantly more salty. Killing time and giving LL space is most of the discussion here, take that away and we're not social anymore, we're here with a purpose .. and that purpose might as well be "why is this all junk and why do you hate your customers?".

    This isn't some new death spiral, we've all been here before, probably many times with many companies who start struggling and trying to micro manage the community as though that's the problem.

     

    The one thing we do also mod very strictly (as in, shoot first and ask questions later) is trolls who explicitly use personal insults, attack minorities and LGBTQ folk, homophobia, transphobia, racism, PMing posters to attack them, shouting about freeze peach, JAQing off, sealioning, aggressive and constant negging of female posters, and so on and so on. This is very much not the case here because of some fox news notion of "both sides".

    Reddit posts are threaded and do not get bumped (unlike this forum) , so there is pressure to be relevant and be quick about it. Things can get nasty and overheat quickly, angry haters silence meaningful participation.

    Much in the same way discussion of LGBTQ issues in SL is silenced here, no one wants to start those threads only to have 2 people and an alt come in and nicely imply they shouldn't exist at all. Funny, the new rules explicitly prohibit arguing against those positions, and because the posters here don't explicitly say what they actually mean (and we all know) veiled hate speech is now permitted.

     

    We've been extremely pro LL to this point and routinely remove rants, not wanting the sub to descend into the enormous lake of festering anti LL bile that exists. LL are one of the only companies I know that manages to not only make their customers hate them, but hate them for life - people will seriously show up having not used SL for a decade just to unload about how much they hate SL and LL for not being dead yet - This includes most of the industry media.

    I'm not saying we or I am going to change that stance, but if thinly veiled hate speech starts to show up and be allowed to stand, I'm not going to be too willing to defend LL and will be seriously reconsidering my participation on these forums, which will undoubtedly have a knock on effect to my participation and contributions to the platform.

    If not you, it would be me or someone else. Can't please everyone, but at least the topics will return to Second Life only.

    All you have lost is a platform to spread non-Second-Life ideas. You've had a good run. You did your thing. You got a platform to say what you wanted for a long time.

    Now it's back to making Second Life Second Life again, sans the Real Life issues.

    You'll be alright.

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  2. 1 hour ago, Aethelwine said:

    Language seems to create confusion sometimes.

    When people talk about Trespassing for example, my immediate thoughts are about the mass trespass in the 1930s (I think) local to me that led to the opening up of public spaces. Trespass since then has been a right (limited but still a right and a valued one). Others probably have very different associations. For others it is about their space being invaded. The same word, same derivation of meaning but very different reactions

     

    That's because in general, in a civilized society, trespass is reserved for any entry uninvited, and in the context of a hostile or 'armed trespass', is what is usually addressed.

    Yes, entering anyone's land is technically trespass, but since we all live in a relatively open society, there is an expectation of ingress and egress from properties to people's doors, their mailboxes, to say 'Hello", without shots being automatically fired, and we also have 'reasonable force' laws that prohibit people from shooting other people dead because they dared to set foot on their driveway, or for those (like in SL) feel it is their right to 'shoot any planes flying overhead their home'.

    For those who want true 'private property' and with clear and distinct lines that it is, they usually have checkpoints, locked gates, fenced areas that clearly communicate "We do not want you approaching the house".

    Unfortunately in SL , as you can see people are going to act any way they want, they're not really participating in an open and relatively free society as in RL, so they're happy to set 0 second orbs, ban lines, or otherwise block other people's non-malicious enjoyment or exploration of "public lands" (not designed for 100% privacy - they have to and should pay for that).

    But trying to convince some of these people to engage in an open society, they're not interested in. Yes, it's their right, and they can do what they want with the "tools that LL have provided us" and the rest of us have to put up with it.  If it becomes disruptive enough for some of us, we simply stop doing those activities in SL, our enjoyment and experience of SL gets soiled, and we simply answer by not paying our annual premium.

    the only way to affect change is to vote with your wallet.

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  3. 4 hours ago, Pixie Kobichenko said:

    I’m going to share a screenshot of what appears to be boogaloo boy related content for sale during a weekend event in SL.  
    I question if it should be allowed on the grid.

    If unfamiliar with their movement, I won’t fill in the blanks for you.  Their platform on racism & desire to ignite a second American Civil is easy enough to google for yourself.  

    A comparison between the SL advertisement & actual boogaloo boys in their Hawaiian shirts & tactile vest:

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    Hawaiian shirts and tactical gear (used by police offers, undercover drug agents, plain-clothes agents, etc) are now 'clothing of hate'.

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    Ok, Second Life. LMAO.

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  4. 14 hours ago, CrazyLaraCroft said:

    Hello Second Life Community and Linden Lab's Staff i have a question about modernize The Second Life World to a more modern engines and if itcould be possiable one day in the future or something along those lines 

    It was called Sansar but was rejected by SL users.

    I and 5 other people in my network did not reject Sansar.

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  5. There are other options and much simpler.

    1) Contraception

    2) Abstinence

    3) Having children only in a committed and stable relationship (and doing all the responsible pre-marriage work before you do)

    Most abortions are made for convenience, and the exceptions can be dealt with appeals or other measures and judges can allow certain situations that would cause high distress to the female in question.

    If anything, overturning Roe Vs Wade is simply making abortion less convenient for many, and those exceptions on the ends of the Bell Curve, who don't make up the majority and have special needs - will be accommodated one way or another.

    A lot of time in our world spent on arguing for the 'right' to destroy another living being, and not alot about taking responsibility for one's actions and use of our bodies.

     

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  6. 3 hours ago, Jennifer Boyle said:

    My understanding is that, when a resident has taken RL money out of SL via Tilia, LL annually reports the amount paid out to the concerned taxing authorities, although I presume that there is a threshold that must be reached for that to happen.

    Is net or gross income reported? For example, if a U.S. resident pays in $3000 during a year and removes $1000, does LL report income of $1000 to the IRS?

    Any monies I 'cash out' to RL platforms I consider 'income' and declare it as such at tax time.

    If you do this you shouldn't have any problem come tax time.

    Keep in mind if you spent money on anything to obtain that income, you may be able to write that off against the income earned.

  7. On 6/10/2022 at 11:15 PM, Kurz Neox said:

    I recently became interested in bringing my art into Second Life and getting it noticed (hopefully). I'm interested in displaying it places or at shows/galleries and also selling copies of my art for others in SL to place in their homes. 

    What would be the best way for me to get started and grow?

    It wouldn't hurt to show your art no matter where you are. After all if people can't see it, then no sales can happen. It would be irrelevant how successful you can be on Second Life, or if you posted on Zazzle or RedBubble. Consider it just another venue, and if you can afford it, why not?

    Starting a gallery AND shop mix would be a good start, and advertise it how you would anything else I guess.

    That being said, it most likely won't be a money maker on its own, but if it leads to real world work or commissions, or even used as PART of your entire art portfolio, then go for it.

    I would say though, that if you can somehow 3D your art ( like an extra value version made for virtual worlds), including 3d elements, and even animations, or making the art come alive (basically using what SL offers you) - it can seriously add to the value and enjoyment of the piece, and protect you from people who - even if they want the piece - won't just simply screen shot it game and you get nothing.

    Also think of ways where your art can be integrated into something else or even on products people wouldn't expect it.

    Do it!

  8. 11 minutes ago, Nalates Urriah said:

    No offense. But the chance of being able to develop rigged mesh clothes for SL without the need for AvaStar is slim. In 2012 I was writing tutorials for how to make fitted mesh with ONLY Blender. These were 5,000+ word tutorials. Add in AvaStar and the tutorials drop to 500 to 800 words.

    It isn't that AvaStar or MayaStar are REQUIRED... you can make stuff without them. But you need to really understand 3D character modeling. And if you are a pro modeler in other worlds you'll have to deal with all the weird kinks the Lab built in to make the basic classic avatar easier to work with when clothes were system, prim, or sculpty. With the addition of mesh the avatar had to change but was kept compatible with the classic pre-mesh system. We never had an industry standard type of avatar designed for the mesh the Lab added. The original classic avatar changed shape using morphing. Bento added in more twists. A modeler learns all the gotchas or gets AvaStar/MayaStar and skips that tedious learning.

    The Lab has made the best of a legacy system giving us the most flexible options moving forward.

    Since the Lab is loath to break backward compatibility, things are not likely to change. But, it will be interesting to see if these new bodies have taken the Slink path and started to break from tradition. EvoX started. Slink has taken it up several notches. Yet, both fit within the Lab's system but use the flexible options available to depart from tradition. What has the Lab done?

    I have avatar creation experience and some rigging for (basic) avatars and relating to Bansar. SL is a bit more involved, my energies would be better spent elsewhere when it comes to avatars in SL I guess. A bit late to that game anyway.

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  9. How would a Mobile viewer work with meshes with 100,000 vertices, no lods, multiple 8 x images per linked mesh (that I have observed in my study of others work) - and how would mobile work properly if SL generally lags and chokes on an average computer?

  10. We need documentation and updated tutorials to encourage more people to upload custom avatars with any new rig.

    And sorry if this offends anyone, without a Avastar prerequisite.

    This will open up SL and options to more creators who won't necessarily have a paywall in the way or limited to one workflow that is constantly promoted.

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  11. 6 minutes ago, Nalates Urriah said:

    Not so easy. First you have to figure out what a woman is. Then figure out how to identify one. Then there is the dilemma of what is the RL person behind the avatar and how do they identify...

    We are past the day when you can grab someone by the ankle,  turn them upside down and ID the sex.

    Yeah. Check please. 😕

  12. 1 hour ago, Rolig Loon said:

    That's quite possible. If the other cars on the freeway seem to be headed the other direction, maybe they know something you don't.  ;) 

    I guess.. Don't say "Hi" to women in Second Life. Got it.

    59 minutes ago, Persephone Emerald said:

    Here's another likely scenario. 

    Bore man with feelings of inferiority goes onto an online forum where he can troll women to see how easy it is to upset them.

    That's not very nice.

  13. 2 minutes ago, Liaa Nova said:

    If I get a 'Hi' IM from a random guy, it's never yet been anything but him wanting to take things further. Why not state what you want rather than put it on the other person to carry the conversation? Hi gets no response, Hi, I love your profile/dress or Hi, I'm new here and was wondering how x works does

    That's very sad. I guess I'm the exception after all.

  14. 6 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said:

    Here is how bad people operate:

    Step 1. Convince people are you "not bad".

    Step 2. Move in and do something bad.

    Hasn't anyone ever taught you "Don't talk to strangers", "Everyone wants something", "Nobody is ever friendly / nice without an agenda", etc.?  People really believe these things and teach them to friends, family, the younger generation, etc.

    That seems like a socially anxious response and assumption, and based in fear or some assumption of ill-intent as a base belief

  15. 19 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said:

    Whether one considers SL a game or considers it more of a platform might have a bearing on the acceptance of a random 'hi'.

    Nope, and probably has more to do with the social anxiety and mental state of the person receiving a simple 'hi' than any measure of ill intent of the person.

    19 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said:

    For me, SL is a platform and so scrolling through the member list to start an interaction with a stranger feels as weird as picking a random number from a RL phone book and cold-calling them to say 'hi'.
    I can understand, though, that if one views SL as a game it would seem appropriate to scroll though the SL member list and message someone randomly.

    I don't think the method of initiating contact with someone else is suspect, nor can any intent be assumed from a simple 'hi' as the start of that interaction.

    It's not weird, even if they did search through a phone book, or in the context of SL, to search through users that may have similar interests or a profile that catches their eye and want to be social and initiate contact. That's how you make friends...

    19 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said:

    Sometimes a resident will act as if my experience is part of whatever game they're playing in SL, for example when someone messaged me out of the blue to inform me that my store was a safe zone for those escaping vampire bites. I just played along, smiling because I generally like playfulness, and so said "that's good to know, thanks for letting me know". Doing so caused no harm to my pursuits as long as they weren't annoying anyone in my store, though I can imagine some people might not appreciate being a cut-out in somebody else's play without their permission.

    You'll be alright. They can't harm you.

    13 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said:

    Unfortunately I feel a pang of guilt when I don't respond to the random 'hi' IM forwarded to my email.  But if I'm not in the mood to respond, I don't. I'm not under any obligation to do so.

    Noone said you had to.

    13 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said:

    I don't think I've ever had a good experience from the random 'hi'. I've had a much better experience when someone gives a clearer reason for wanting contact -- something more than just 'hi'.

    You would be the exception and not the rule.

     

     

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  16. 2 hours ago, Rowan Amore said:

    I have no problem with someone saying hello/hi.  At all.   If someone in RL were to walk up to me, smile and say hi and I responded with hello back yet they just stood there and said nothing, I'd walk away or depending on the vibe I was getting, run like hell.  Don't IM me then expect ME to come up with the conversation subject.  Often times, my hello back is followed several minutes later by, "Oh, I guess you're busy".   WTF?  YOU messaged ME.  SAY SOMETHING.

    From the first page of my profile...

     I'm IM friendly. However, please don't IM me with /me smiles. This shifts the responsibility of the conversation onto me whereas it should remain with you. Also, a 'hello' is fine but don't expect me to respond with more than the same. Have we all lost the art of conversing

     

    You'll be alright, and it's going to happen more. (or not after people read the numerous topics about this on the forums)

    10 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said:

    If appropriate (not random strangers in public), I like to lead with, "Hey there, how are you today?" - gives the other person something to say. People generally love talking about themselves.

    Your greeting is nothing special. It's normal society to ask "Hi, how are you" and they respond "Fine, how are you" and you respond "Good/Great/Fine".

    You're not manipulating them to 'talking about themselves' by participating in normal, average and widespread basic communication.

    What is actually out of the norm are many posts on this forum that try to make it like someone saying "Hi" is some unwanted action - and believe me it will be THEIR issue only, not the mass of the human civilization.

    If anything this behaviour is indicative of social anxiety.

     

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    Sending a message that a "hi" in Second life is unwanted, or a harassment or an 'attack' or any other statement that assumes or portrays ill-intent of others  can actually create social anxiety in others.

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  17. 1 hour ago, Rowan Amore said:

    A simple "Hi" in my experience since 2009, followed by my " Hello" back usually ends in a less than engaging conversation.  My Hello is normally followed by several minutes of silence from the person.  I guess they are expecting ME to move the conversation along when in fact, it's their responsibility to do so.  THEY messaged me.  Have something to say.  A comment, an observation, something!  

    Do you honestly walk up to someone in RL, say Hi and then just stand there after they say hello back?   How does that go?  Why did you say Hi?  

    Or maybe they were saying "Hello". And that's it. You answer "hello" and be done. If they stand there and not say anything, so what. They probably went afk or went back to reading.

    I'm not sure why I even have to explain this SIMPLE and universal interaction by Millions everywhere, even if they're passing each other while walking on the sidewalk.

    I saw someone in the area, maybe working on something, I say "Hi", they say "Hi" back (if you're lucky) and it either continues or it doesn't.

    Damn this is so weird around here... I need another project to be excited about cuz this is all ....

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  18. On 6/19/2022 at 1:38 PM, Guku Aabye said:

    Do you all think that Second Life is less sociable with people now than before?

    Yes. it's even more noticeable after being away for 4-5 years and coming back. Everything has changed, the social rules have changed, and people are far, far, far, far,far more sensitive than ever to any number of issues.

    10 minutes ago, LittleSparrow Skydancer said:

    Discord is the new aol… it’s a ️ 

    Discord can destroy or severely decimate inworld participation in many virtual worlds, as most of the energy and chat and information changing happens there instead of inworld.

  19. 38 minutes ago, Persephone Emerald said:

    You seem to be responding here to something you imaged I said rather than to what I actually said.

    I always say hello back when someone says hello to me inworld. If someone compliments me, I thank them. I engage in polite and friendly conversations. Sometimes I accept friend requests or even offer them myself. 

    All I said was that if I accept a friend request from a male avatar I may later unfriend them without giving them an explanation.  Sometimes I will also turn down friend requests, saying something like, "Do we have anything in common?...I'm sorry, but I already have more friends on my friends list than I can handle." Other times I may accept or send a friend request from a newbie and say, "Feel free to IM me if you need help with anything."

    People in SL do not owe each other friendship, entertainment or conversation.

    My time and real friendship has to be earned with respect and consideration for my time and feelings.

    This is a case of adding on to what you said, and the use of 'you'  should be considered 'one'. My experience remains valid.

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  20. Not sure why you're being laughed at OP, but most creators will want to do most of that design by simulating cloth in Marvelous Designer.

    You may be referring to "cloth simulation"

    Making the computer do the work for you is the first step. It looks like a complicated piece, but the methods used to get ruffles, elasticity, bunching and MOST of the wrinkle effects can be done in Marvelous Designer itself.  I'm not much of an authority on Marvelous Designer probably having about 300+ hours into it, but there are many workflows and there are tons of affordable courses to teach you how to do it.

    My basic workflow would be to create the pattern and effects I need in MD, run a sim to get the folds and such, export a HI poly version (and a Lower Poly version - made with a sim with lower resolution), then add more details as needed (I use Blender), then take the low poly and hi into Substance Painter and texture it there.

    Wrinkles, creases and other effects can be added at any stage, but generally letting the computer and cloth simulations to do the work for you is best.

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  21. Only in 2022, is it such a chore and such a contested social action (as portrayed by online sources) about saying "Hi".

    What it means is how it was meant for centuries. It's a greeting, and you're supposed to say "Hi" back. It's called courtesy.

    "Hi" is not a threat.  "Hi" is not unwanted attention. "Hi" isn't meant to scare you away in a Premium sandbox. "Hi" doesn't mean someone is hitting on you. "Hi" doesn't mean someone has sexual interest in you.

    I wouldn't say I suffer from social anxiety - but I am developing social anxiety only reading how others react to the most simplest of things - in RL a 'hi' can be met with a complete ignore, or 'taken aback' (how strange, do I look like a goblin, lol), or a pensive "hii? (Why are you speaking to me)" type reaction (strange), or any other number of strange encounters with reactions far out of the norm for what I would expect.

    50 minutes ago, Persephone Emerald said:

    I'm an introvert and not looking to add more friends to my friends list, but I do like to tell random people when I think their avatar or pet looks nice. I think complimenting someone is a good way to start a conversation, whether it's their look or their profile. I'll IM someone in a store to tell them if a lucky chair has their name letter on it. I've messaged people to tell them their Linden Home looked good too. Last night I IMed 2 ladies to ask if they wanted gift cards I didn't want. One was AFK and didn't respond. The other continued the conversation and asked if I wanted to be friends.

    This is the tricky part for me. I don't want to come across as rude, but I don't really need or want more friends, so most of the time I accept their friend request or send them one myself at this point. If the person has a male avatar and I've met them at an Adult sim, I assume they're looking for a potential virtual sex partner, so I generally try to unfriend them when they're not online. I accidentally unfriended a couple guys when they were online and then got back a surprised IM asking why I unfriended them. 

    If the person has a female avatar, they're less likely to be interested in a virtual hook-up, so I just let them stay on my friends list. Most are male though. If they or their partner are a DJ, I'll likely start getting spammed for their events, at which time I'll unfriend them as well.

    If I said "hello" to you, or complimented you on a product or build or something else you were working on, it would have no sexual intent at all. I'm sure others would agree that if saying 'hello' has become offensive, or giving someone a compliment, or even asking a question or engaging in any way is a 'threat', it can severely damage social interaction in SL.

    I still say "hello" if I want or give compliments if I want, I'm not going to change - I'm just reporting the negative responses I get that are not warranted, and it is not me who needs to change but some people's response to an time-honored courtesy.

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