Faith Suki Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 I seem to be having an issue with my mesh with the land impact being 1515.221. The model itself is around 10,000 Polygons I have changed the level of detail lowest to 0 and the physical model to the lowest, However the only thing this changes is the upload fee. I am able to wear the item, But I'm sure it's lagging my avatar, and probably others who has me rezzed! I'm exporting it via DAE. from 3DS MAX. I'm using Units 1.0 Meters, I mention this as I'm not sure if I should be exporting via another set of units. I'm quite new to modelling in SL and this is my first rigged clothing item so I'm sure I'm unknowingly doing something wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frionil Fang Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 (edited) Since the actual upload cost is low, your unit scale is to blame. You can choose a scaling factor in the upload options to see what the LI at correct size is, no need to re-export anything. SL units for mesh do seem to be meters, but I've no experience with anything outside Blender so it's possible there's a disagreement what the units mean when it comes to 3DS. Edited July 19, 2022 by Frionil Fang 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faith Suki Posted July 19, 2022 Author Share Posted July 19, 2022 Thank you for your answer! It's Certainly seems to be something to do with my scaling, Thanks! Tried your suggestion and it did lower it, unfortunately the LI is still a "tad" too high. So I'm assuming my scaling must be off in Max! (Just wish I knew how!) At least that's a relief I can leave the mesh alone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frionil Fang Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 (edited) Yeah, even at 0.01 scale that object being 5.6 x 12 x 3.6 meters is... a LOT of pants. Gonna have to figure out how to adjust units in the export! Also I know next to nothing about the nitty gritty specifics of rigging but that warning at the bottom of the window seems like something to look into so you don't end up with rigging problems. Edited July 19, 2022 by Frionil Fang 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquila Kytori Posted July 19, 2022 Share Posted July 19, 2022 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Faith Suki said: I'm assuming my scaling must be off in Max! (Just wish I knew how!) I'm not a Max user either. Perhaps this may help : https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Mesh/Exporting_a_mesh_from_3ds_Max#Scale_to_meters Edited July 19, 2022 by Aquila Kytori 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faith Suki Posted July 19, 2022 Author Share Posted July 19, 2022 Figured it out! it was my own noob fault, I forgot to rest the scale when I scaled the model down! 😓 Thank you both for your help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animats Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Glad you got it. SL is MKS units throughout - meters, kilograms, seconds. Do everything in meters and everything scales properly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Bartlett Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 10k poly? Highly recommend that you should be doing retopo and getting that down to below 2k poly if you can. Bake the high poly to the low poly for the detail in your uploaded textures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonk Tomcat Posted July 20, 2022 Share Posted July 20, 2022 Don't play arround with upload numbers and lod settings. Your mesh is not even 50% done, i'm very sad to tell you. You skipped the retopo and baking maps part completely, so you have to go back into your 3D program, use the mesh you have as your reference highpoly mesh and then you build a lowpoly mesh on top of your highpoly mesh. At the end you bake the details from your highpoly to the lowpoly mesh, so you have all the small wrinkles in the texture map. One more thing: When you say the model has 10k polys, it's very hard to believe while seeing every small wrinkle in the mesh already. I bet the tri count in the inspect window is much more higher (i would bet the tri count will be close to 100k or even higher). This is mesh that causes lag as hell in the end. Please, don't upload it like it is into sl. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faith Suki Posted August 2, 2022 Author Share Posted August 2, 2022 Sorry, only just now seeing your message. Thank you for your input The model is retopologised and baked down from 7 million to 10 K (8k) I've baked the map in substance hence why the wrinkles are so prevalent in Second life from the normal map. The model I imported into SL is the retopologised lower one. (Shown in the picture below) I figured the issue I was having was due to me not resetting my scale after rescaling my model, managed to get the model down to 11 land impact once I did, which yes I know is still quite high! I could've totally lowered it to make it 5 (4K), But I really wanted to have the structure of the wrinkles in the shape. In the future I understand I should perhaps keep my models below the 3K mark. Cheers again for everyone's replies ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonk Tomcat Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Did you use zremesher for "retopo"? I know it's a lot of work and it takes a lot of time, but you should try retopo by hand, it would also give you a way better edge flow in your mesh. Zremesher is not really made for retopo, well, at least not for retopo in the matter of creating a low poly game ready mesh. It's more for getting a clean topology within zbrush for further sculpting. I'm glad that the pants is not super dense mesh, tho i still would not consider it as low visually wise. What tri count does the low has in second life? Poly count from the 3d prog doesn't really matter when you want to compare numbers, because within sl you don't see polygons, everything gets triangulated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faith Suki Posted August 2, 2022 Author Share Posted August 2, 2022 unfortunately, it was all painstakingly done by hand with zsphere and topology! 😭 (Can't stand the spiralling zremesher gives ya! 😅) I get that in the future I'll make sure to keep it lower! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonk Tomcat Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 Oh my! If it's affordable for you i highly suggest TopoGun for retopo. it's super easy to use and very fast. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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