Question on Rotations - Mirror

[Wandering Soulstar]

Hi All,

Rotations and the math behind them are my bane in LSL .. just cannot get my head around them. What I am trying to do is mirror the rotation of a prim.. i.e. If Prim A is rotated at 45 degrees on the x axis, I want to set Prim B's x axis rotation to 225 degrees. Is it as simple as:

myRot.x = mirrorRot.x + (180 * DEG_TO_RAD);

.. or is there more to it?

Edited February 4, 2019 by Wandering Soulstar

[steph Arnott]

15 minutes ago, Wandering Soulstar said:

Hi All,

Rotations and the math behind them are my bane in LSL .. just cannot get my head around them. What I am trying to do is mirror the rotation of a prim.. i.e. If Prim A is rotated at 45 degrees on the x axis, I want to set Prim B's x axis rotation to 225 degrees. Is it as simple as:

myRot.x = mirrorRot.x + (180 * DEG_TO_RAD);

.. or is there more to it?

Well yo need the first rotation then adjust the second. something like this 

rotation sumRot     =     llGetRot(); 

rotation rot        =     sumRot * llEuler2Rot(<0.0,0.0,PI>);

[Wandering Soulstar]

@steph Arnott  .. left out the collecting of the rots .. just assume they are already in myRot and mirrorRot  🙂

So, if I understand the example .. this would result rot having a 180 degree change in it's z axis? i.e. depending on which axis it is I put PI in the desired axis position in the vector?

[steph Arnott]

2 minutes ago, Wandering Soulstar said:

@steph Arnott  .. left out the collecting of the rots .. just assume they are already in myRot and mirrorRot  🙂

So, if I understand the example .. this would result rot having a 180 degree change in it's z axis? i.e. depending on which axis it is I put PI in the desired axis position in the vector?

The axis you need to set, I just used Z axis.

Edited February 4, 2019 by steph Arnott

[Wandering Soulstar]

Brilliant! Thanks Steph!

[Wulfie Reanimator]

The problem with "myRot.x" is that rotations ("quaternions") have 4 components, <x y z w>, and changing just one of those isn't going to do what you expect.

As long as you convert your rotation to a regular vector first (llRot2Euler), you'll be able to do it just like you were trying to. (Just remember to convert back with llEuler2Rot.)

Side-note: "180 * DEG_TO_RAD" is the same as PI.

Edited February 4, 2019 by Wulfie Reanimator

[Wandering Soulstar]

or just do it as Steph suggested??

[steph Arnott]

4 minutes ago, Wulfie Reanimator said:

The problem with "myRot.x" is that rotations ("quaternions") have 4 components, <x y z w>, and changing just one of those isn't going to do what you expect.

As long as you convert your rotation to a regular vector first (llRot2Euler), you'll be able to do it just like you were trying to. (Just remember to convert back with llEuler2Rot.)

Side-note: "180 * DEG_TO_RAD" is the same as PI.

Actually no they do not have four components, there are six.

[Estelle Pienaar]

Edited my post once more as I maybe shouldn't make judgements without knowing the situation in detail.

Edited February 5, 2019 by Estelle Pienaar

[Kyrah Abattoir]

On 2/4/2019 at 3:34 PM, steph Arnott said:

Actually no they do not have four components, there are six.

In what universe?

[steph Arnott]

Just now, Kyrah Abattoir said:

In what universe?

Try learning euler three dimensional mathmatics. The correct short hand notation is X, Y, Z, S. S being the the face of the sphere.

[chibiusa Ling]

5 minutes ago, steph Arnott said:

Try learning euler three dimensional mathmatics. The correct short hand notation is X, Y, Z, S. S being the the face of the sphere.

Your talking about the six transformational degrees of freedom I think. The 3 x translational and 3 x rotational and if I remember correctly thats only a thing in duel quaternions. They are talking about how we represent it in LSL aka the rotational variable containing four float components 

[steph Arnott]

Just now, chibiusa Ling said:

Your talking about the six transformational degrees of freedom I think. The 3 x translational and 3 x rotational and if I remember correctly thats only a thing in duel quaternions. They are talking about how we represent it in LSL aka the rotational variable containing four float components 

I gave the solution.

[Wandering Soulstar]

All .. just was finally debugging inworld an realised I had, by the example given, not fully explained what I am trying to do. The previous answers around EulertoRot and back helped .. but I realised that I need to calculate the actual value I need to add .. it is not 180 as I gave in the example.

What I want to do is mirror an angle ... this means if base x is 300 .. mirror x is 60; if base x is 330 .. mirror x is 30.; etc ....

Does anyone know of a formula to be able to calculate this? I only want to change the selected axis rotation ...

Edited March 18, 2019 by Wandering Soulstar

[KT Kingsley]

From a quick glance at your examples, the formula you want is mirror_x = 360.0 - base_x.

[Wandering Soulstar]

Spot on (and staring me right in the face) @KT Kingsley  Thanks!!!!

[steph Arnott]

3 minutes ago, Wandering Soulstar said:

Spot on (and staring me right in the face) @KT Kingsley  Thanks!!!!

What i gave you will rotatate the second object 180 degrees to the first. Which is what you asked. The first object could 50 degrees the code will produce a value for the second of 230 degrees on the Z.

[Wandering Soulstar]

@steph Arnott I know you gave me exactly what I asked for .. I had just not described my problem fully or properly, so all my fault.

[steph Arnott]

1 minute ago, Wandering Soulstar said:

@steph Arnott I know you gave me exactly what I asked for .. I had just not described my problem fully or properly, so all my fault.

Are you rezzing an object rotated?

 

[Wandering Soulstar]

@steph Arnott No what I am doing is setting a prim to mirror the angle of another prim, as in the two sides of a  roof for example. The previous code snippets helped, and what I was missing was the formula to get the 'mirror' value .. which KT kindly pointed out to me .. so all good now!