Pamela Galli Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 I have been having a lot of trouble with Blender. First of all, baking AO or full render takes a VERY long time, even tho I have a fairly new very powerful iMac. Second, it took many tries just to get a full render to bake at all.But after all that I got my stairs textures to bake -- and while they look find in Blender they are messed up inworld. I reimported the dae, no difference. I can't figure it out -- any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinRey Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 I can't say for sure but to me it looks like it's the in-world texture repeats that got messed up, not the texture or the UV map. It's not just the AO that is off, seems like the whole texture is stretched and shifted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Galli Posted November 28, 2015 Author Share Posted November 28, 2015 I didn't do anything To the repeats, either time I uploaded. I guess it is some Bug? (Why does iPad capitalize To and Bug?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinRey Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Pamela Galli wrote: I didn't do anything To the repeats, either time I uploaded. I guess it is some Bug? Possibly. The only other explanation I can think of is that if it's based on a Firestorm generated dae file, you get non-uniform scale and that can sometimes mess up the UV mapping. I suppose we'll have to wait for some proper Blender experts to wake up and reply. Pamela Galli wrote: (Why does iPad capitalize To and Bug?) It's probably a Bug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Galli Posted November 28, 2015 Author Share Posted November 28, 2015 What do mean by a Firestorm generated dae? I started using Firestorm recently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinRey Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Edit: removed the whole post since it turned out I had misunderstood Pamela so it wasn't relevant to this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Galli Posted November 28, 2015 Author Share Posted November 28, 2015 Nope, made in Blender. I am re-UVing it to see if that fixes it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaia Clary Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 hi; For me the easiest way to understand what is going on here would be by taking a look at the blend file. That should mke the problem discovery much easier :matte-motes-wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drongle McMahon Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 I agree with Gaia - maybe the dae file too. Meanwhile, it looks to me as if the UV mapping of the long sloping beam used for the bake is different from the one used to apply the texture inworld. Dou you have more than one UV map in Blender, and are you sure the right one is exported. Remember that the uploader will only use one UV map, even if you export more than one to the dae. By the way, the scaling of the woodgrain is completely different on the beams and the steps. It would look better if they were the same. This may be difficilt because you are using a baked texture for the beams, presumably without repeats. However, if the steps positions are accurately regular, the ao should repeat for each step, and so it should be possible to use repeats. It's quite a lot of work to get things exactly right for that, but you can get much better texturing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Galli Posted November 28, 2015 Author Share Posted November 28, 2015 Only one set of UVs. I just re-UVed and that seems to have fixed that problem: Yes the scale is not the same, but I will pretend the supports are rougher wood :-) (I am still working on the shading.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinRey Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Pamela Galli wrote: Yes the scale is not the same, but I will pretend the supports are rougher wood :-) I know this is a digression but that is exactly the kind of details I love. An RL carpenter would have done exactly the same of course, use the finest wood for the most visible parts and maybe save a little bit elsewhere. It's amazing how much realism you can add if you pay attention to such details and it doesn't cost anything at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chic Aeon Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 I don't know if "the simpliest answer is the best" but to me, it looked like you moved the vertices on your stair risers AFTER you UV mapped them origianlly and didn't remap. Hence the texture was stretched. Unless you are looking at the BAKED textures as the actual texture on the model in Blender, it will still look fine. Not sure if I am explaining it well. I have done that once or twice, hence it is familiar. ALMOST instant edit -- OR you straigtened the UV map not remembering that those pieces actually WERE at an angle and needed to stay that way (a better bet in my book). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Galli Posted November 28, 2015 Author Share Posted November 28, 2015 Chic Aeon wrote: I don't know if "the simpliest answer is the best" but to me, it looked like you moved the vertices on your stair risers AFTER you UV mapped them origianlly and didn't remap. Hence the texture was stretched. Unless you are looking at the BAKED textures as the actual texture on the model in Blender, it will still look fine. Not sure if I am explaining it well. I have done that once or twice, hence it is familiar. Could be, but baking the textures was the last thing I did. Why the texture would look one way in Blender and another inworld is one of many many things that will probably always remain a mystery to me. My approach when I can't get a square peg to fit in a round hole, is to get out my hammer and pound it in. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaia Clary Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Pamela Galli wrote Could be, but baking the textures was the last thing I did. Why the texture would look one way in Blender and another inworld is one of many many things that will probably always remain a mystery to me. Recently i found that under some circumstances the SL IMporter is cheating on you. I tried this for example: I select one dae file that i wanted to import I prepare everything in the Uploader I realise that i have selected the wrong dae file, so i step back to the first panel And select the correct dae file now I import And get a messy mixture between the first selected file information (skeleton info) and the last selected file information (weight maps and mesh data) It may well be possible that similar issues occur with static mesh imports. Because of this i meanwhile always do a clear&reset forms before anything else. Maybe this is not what happened to you in this case, but it could, maybe, or not :matte-motes-nerdy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquila Kytori Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Pamela Galli wrote: Only one set of UVs. I just re-UVed and that seems to have fixed that problem: Yes the scale is not the same, but I will pretend the supports are rougher wood :-) (I am still working on the shading.) .......... and would you be also pretending that The Building regulations 2000 Protection from falling, collision and impact. dosen't exist either ! ? :smileysurprised: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Galli Posted November 28, 2015 Author Share Posted November 28, 2015 Gaia Clary wrote: Pamela Galli wrote Could be, but baking the textures was the last thing I did. Why the texture would look one way in Blender and another inworld is one of many many things that will probably always remain a mystery to me. Recently i found that under some circumstances the SL IMporter is cheating on you. I tried this for example: I select one dae file that i wanted to import I prepare everything in the Uploader I realise that i have selected the wrong dae file, so i step back to the first panel And select the correct dae file now I import And get a messy mixture between the first selected file information (skeleton info) and the last selected file information (weight maps and mesh data) It may well be possible that similar issues occur with static mesh imports. Because of this i meanwhile always do a clear&reset forms before anything else. Maybe this is not what happened to you in this case, but it could, maybe, or not :matte-motes-nerdy: That sounds about right, because I uploaded several versions previous to the final. (Except I had to make a new one when I re-UVed.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Galli Posted November 28, 2015 Author Share Posted November 28, 2015 Aquila Kytori wrote: Pamela Galli wrote: Only one set of UVs. I just re-UVed and that seems to have fixed that problem: Yes the scale is not the same, but I will pretend the supports are rougher wood :-) (I am still working on the shading.) .......... and would you be also pretending that The Building regulations 2000 Protection from falling, collision and impact. dosen't exist either ! ? :smileysurprised: <eyes glaze over> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinRey Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Aquila Kytori wrote: .......... and would you be also pretending that The Building regulations 2000 Protection from falling, collision and impact. dosen't exist either ! ? They only apply to England and Wales, Aquila. You don't have to move further than to Scotland and you'll be perfectly unsafe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquila Kytori Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 ChinRey wrote: Aquila Kytori wrote: .......... and would you be also pretending that The Building regulations 2000 Protection from falling, collision and impact. dosen't exist either ! ? They only apply to England and Wales, Aquila. You don't have to move further than to Scotland and you'll be perfectly unsafe. Ok ........ fine ........then that explains why in other countries you find yourself falling down stairs like these. Makes me proud to be British English Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Galli Posted November 28, 2015 Author Share Posted November 28, 2015 I think it is this 2.76 Blender. I keep having all kinds of buggy behavior. Like now, whatever textures or AO I bake, shows up in the texture window but not on the model. The model is either black or keeps the previous texture I baked. I am going to install 2.76b PS Also, baking anything takes a long long time, even tho the # of passes is below 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquila Kytori Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Perhaps...... I am sure if we did a little survey asking other forum readers if they think it is Pam or Blender that is at the root of her little Blender/meshing problems we would get .............an answer. I'm not saying it would be the correct answer or anything ....... If it makes you feel better, even Blender 2.76b recommends that I use 2.75 so i do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinRey Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Aquila Kytori wrote: I am sure if we did a little survey asking other forum readers if they think it is Pam or Blender that is at the root of her little Blender/meshing problems we would get .............an answer. I know them both and Pamela is most definitely the one who has my sympathy here! Does that count for anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Galli Posted November 28, 2015 Author Share Posted November 28, 2015 ChinRey wrote: Aquila Kytori wrote: I am sure if we did a little survey asking other forum readers if they think it is Pam or Blender that is at the root of her little Blender/meshing problems we would get .............an answer. I know them both and Pamela is most definitely the one who has my sympathy here! Does that count for anything? Well that is the main reason I post my troubles here. :matte-motes-tongue: So far 2.76b is not exhibiting the baking problems. Still, it could be me, usually is. Here, btw, is the final, safer version: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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