How can I complain about offensive items being sold on marketplace

[Shayna Spires]

 

I recently discovered that several vendors on marketplace are selling Adolf Hitler avatars. Thsi si highly offensive. These maight be claimed to be for roleplay in historical sims, but there is surely no limited area where these can be used once purchased. Several are highly discount, to almost encourage their distribution. 

I have reported the sellers for abuse, I have writeen pliitely to ask them to take them down. 

 

what other areas to do I have to take to make this stop?

 

https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/WOOGLES-Adolf-Hitler-MESH-FULL-AVATAR-DISCOUNT/6245314

https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/Promo-Adolf-Hitler-Avatar-MESH-Complete-Avatar-FULL-MODIFY/7048184

https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/Avatar-Adolf-Hitler-Deambrosi/5798134

 

https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/Avatar-Adolf-Hitler-Deambrosi/5798134

[Freya Mokusei]

Marketplace content is policed by LL - all you can do is flag the item for reasons that you believe it's offensive. Assuming there's a category for this, LL will review it and remove it if this content breaks their rules. You cannot "make this stop", only our service operator can.

You should remove the Marketplace links from your question, as naming and shaming is against the rules.

Note that no-one is obliged to deal with your feelings of offence. It doesn't matter that you personally can't concieve of why these might be sold - the reasons for these products being on the Marketplace is rooted in what the creator believes will sell.

[Pamela Galli]

The links dont work for me, but in the ripped mesh thread over in the other forum, several idetentical Hitler avatars, obviosuly stolen, were shown.

[Nalates Urriah]

Adolf Hitler is often used to represent the worst of the worst and remind us of where the National Socialist Party of Germany and fascism lead them. We need such icons as reminders to pass our experiences to the next generation.

That you are offended and would step out to force people to take down or restrict the selling of such reminders, is starting down the road Hitler traveled. You may want to rethink your philosophy.

Speaking out against hate is admirable. Telling people they CANNOT hate and making it illegal is moving into fascist territory.

[Syo Emerald]

Shayna, you made one big mistake in your thinking. These avatars are offensive...to you. And whats offensive to you does not determine what is ok and what isn't for others. Some people find nude beaches offensive and yet nude beaches are not against the law or (in this case) the ToS.

Hitler is a historic person. He as an avatar or pictures of him are not violating the ToS in any way. Same as for any other historic person, no matter what they did in their lifes.

[Shayna Spires]

There is an enormous difference between a sim and something that is for sale on marketplace. a sim has a rating, and so should the marketplace. In this case these are marked as general audience. If a nude beach was in general there would be an issue, true?

I understand the idea that banning a subject from sale is stepping over a line. However, as I have noted, this is the type of item that should one not be available for general consumption, where someone who was not even looking for this for a roleplay or some other use will not just buy it thinking it is funny, let me wear this to the club.If its for roleplay or some historical purposes, let it for be sale on that sim, not on a general marketplace.

As for your argument that this is only offensive to me, someone else it is not, so is child porn. Would that be an acceptable argument from the pedophile, that its not offensive to them? Please.

Personally, I dont want this banned, i want the seller to understand the issue and restrict it willingly. If they wont, I still fell there should be a restriction.

[Shayna Spires]

You are assuming the best possible use for these avatars. Unfortunately, I don't believe that they are being sold as a reminder of evil, they are being sold to shock and to be some sort of sick humor, and that is giving more benefit of the doubt that what they are probably being used for.

I understand the issue with an outright ban. Truly I do. I would very much want the seller to just take them down after a concern is expressed.

These avatars are being sold on a public marketplace, not marked as adult or even mature. They are general. So there is no concern at all over it causing any offense whatsoever.