What is a Timed Ban and how is it done?

[Cinnamon Lohner]

I just ran into an interesting ban problem that I've never seen before.  Someone was ban from group property but it was a timed ban.  So when I looked at the ban list, the person's name had a timer next to it counting down.  I've never seen an option to ban someone for a specific period of time.

Any ideas how this was done?

TIA

-Cinn

[Unklebob Hotaling]

If it was a 'group ban' as opposed to a LL secondlife-wide ban perhaps you coud contact the group owner and ask them.  I've done by fair share of banning and I've never heard of such a thing, the timer sure beats doing it manually.

[Cinnamon Lohner]

No it was a land parcel ban.  Appeared in the About Land/Access tab

[ELQ Homewood]

Kinda sounds like it might be an alternate viewer option.

[Cinnamon Lohner]

Perhaps     I'll keep this question active in hopes someone knows.

[Ellla McMahon]

Could it be a purchased Security device ? From XStreet, there's many items, including one that says,

How do I set the ban time period for banned avatars?

To set the ban time period of the device left click on the device, thenin the blue menu system click on the conigure button and then on theban time button. If set to Unlimited the owner must manualy remove theavatars name from the lands ban list.

[ELQ Homewood]

Could be, this wouldn't be difficult scripting.

 

Edit: I wouldn't expect the Access window in About Land to show the timer though.

[Daisha Rhapsody]

This always happened with my land security when someone got kicked out because they weren't allowed it was the land security orb, from Thomas conover's gadget shop. Easily fixed, just remove their name like a normal ban list.

[Cinnamon Lohner]

That only makes my job harder!  Person suspected of doing the banning did not have the group privs necessary to ban someone.  Please don't tell me there are security devices that can override group privs

[BlckCobra Shikami]

"Timed Bans" can be done by script only - some scripted security devices add temporary (timed) bans to the access list in the "About Land" dialog or can be instructed to to that.

[Cinnamon Lohner]

Ok.  Can such a security device also override the group priv setting?  As stated, the person suspected of doing this did not have the authority in the group to ban anyone.  I'm still combing through the group settings looking for a backdoor security hole but haven't found one.

[Kaylan Draken]

So as told in previous post TimedBan can only be done thru script.

If you want more information about it look here:

http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/LlAddToLandBanList

[Cinnamon Lohner]

Thanks everyone.  I think the original question is answered and I thank you all for that.  I still would like to know if there is a potential security hole here where a device like this can ban someone from group land even if the owner of the device did not have proper authority to ban.  But I suspect that's a dumb question to ask since it opens a nasty can of worms and insight to what is possibly a griefing tool.

If anyone does have any visibility into the security aspects of preventing such a device from being improperly used, please IM in world or post here if you think the information is relevent as safe

Thanks

--Cinn

[Indeterminate Schism]

I've read all I can find about these functions and can't find *any* mention of permissions required but I will check further.  Presumably the object containing the script has to be deeded to the group, just as for setting Media, but that would mean anyone with privileges to deed objects to the group could use these functions for griefing and it makes land-bans practically worthless.  Hehe, I must write a few security systems quickly.

[RockAndRoll Michigan]

I'm afraid it's really no big secret how somebody without ban authority can do this.

First off, because the land is group-owned, only the GROUP has the authority to run scripts which modify any of the parcel settings on the land. This is an extremely important distinction.

So if I am a member of your group, and I have been given the ability to rez items on the group's land and then deed them to the group, I can deed anything I want to the group, and it will become the group's property. This also means that any scripts that are in it can change things about the settings on the group's land. Audio stream address, video stream address, allowed "whitelisted" avatars, BANNED AVATARS......

So all a group member had to do was to deed a scripted object to the group, tell it who to ban, and then take it back into their inventory again, and their chosen victim is banned from the group's land. It's very easy to do it even without ban powers.