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[Jo Yardley]

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Lesson 1 from history. :matte-motes-big-grin:

[Boudicca Littlebird]

The story of Christ can be found on tablets in Iraq dating back to 500bc, he was called mithras then, in about 200 bc the roman army was formed as a standing army, as was normal for that time they needed to have a temple and some one to worship, most roman soldiers wanted mithras, so mithras was chosen and a temple to him was built where st peters is now( there is a stair case by Bellini's altar, where you can go under the alter and see the old mithras altar)

Anyway all was ok with the roman army and mithras, then in about 30ad, a guy called john the Baptist turned up, he claimed that he could convert people to Jews, or the one god just by washing away their sins, this upset the leading Jews, so to keep people happy they chopped of his head, over the next 300 years this group grew that believed sins could be washed away by being baptized and giving your self to one god, in fact 100's of sects started to appear all over the empire, the empire was getting concerned because all these sects started fighting with each other, so the empire decided that they would have one universal religion(catholic = universal), the roman army said no way were they changing there's, but agreed to let him be renamed as Christ, so the Romans did this, they allowed the army to carry on calling him mithrtas, but made every one else worship the roman army god they called Christ, the true people that had the religion that turned the other cheek, were all hunted down and killed, but the practice of being baptized carried on.

If you have been baptized or are a Baptist then you follow john and not this guy called Christ who's real name is mithras and lived 500bc in Persia.

The story of mithras is word for word the same as Christ, to have the story of Christ written down 500 years before he is said to have lived has really upset the church, the USA have now taken over all digs in Iraq and you are not allowed to see the tablets, but many took pictures and stole a few before the USA invaded, but the genie is now out the bottle, so this Christian religion only has a short life time unless they destroy all those that know, and they have done that in the past.

[JeanneAnne]

Well Boudicca .. there are plenty of similarities between Mithra & Christ .. its true! Being "washed in the blood" for instance. Cept in Mithraism it was a bull & was literal: Converts stood under a grate & a bull had its throat slit above them. But Mithraism & Christianity coexisted for a long time & i dont think its quite true to say that Christ was Mithra.

Truth is that savior god cults were rampant in those days .. & they shared many elements, the predominant one being the son of the Great Mother who died & was reborn. There was Horus in Egypt & Attis & Adonis in whats now Turkey .. etc, etc, etc ... Not one element of the gospel story is original to it: virgin birth, water in2 wine, walking on water .. blah, blah .. all had their antecedants in other regional savior god religions. The very idea of monotheism: the father war god who lived in the sky & would get you .. developed among Indo-European speaking horse culture nomads from the region around the Black & Caspian seas .. & spread in2 the Indus river valley where it bacame the cult of Indra. Indra mutated in2 Yahweh, Ra, Zeus, Jupiter, Odin ... etc, etc, & these militant, patrifocal religions gradually replaced the Universal nuturing religion of Great Mother Nature. The legand of the Aesir/Vanir war reflects this .. Despotism, capitalism, the ruthless exploitation of nature & of women .. etc, etc .. are all the sordid legacy of this spiritual perversion. LL thinks they are Indra when it comes to SL. They can zapp your post from the sky if you 'sin' against their commandments, for instance. Personally ... i h8 all this oppressive **bleep**.

Jeanne

[Jo Yardley]

[Boudicca Littlebird]

It is said that mithras was crucified to on good Friday and rose on the Monday, also a lot of the tablets of the story can be dated to 500bc, I know you have 1200bc but I don't think hard facts have been found for that date, the tablets they do have they have hard dates for, and that's between 450bc - 500bc, but I have heard of the others to, I don't think they have written things though from those dates, only things written many years later.

[JeanneAnne]

Cool Jo!

Thanks !!

Jeanne

[Jo Yardley]

My pleasure, extra entertaining to post on facebook during Christmas and so on

[Melita Magic]

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Boudicca Littlebird wrote:

The story of Christ can be found on tablets in Iraq dating back to 500bc, he was called mithras then, in about 200 bc the roman army was formed as a standing army, as was normal for that time they needed to have a temple and some one to worship, most roman soldiers wanted mithras, so mithras was chosen and a temple to him was built where st peters is now( there is a stair case by Bellini's altar, where you can go under the alter and see the old mithras altar)

Anyway all was ok with the roman army and mithras, then in about 30ad, a guy called john the Baptist turned up, he claimed that he could convert people to Jews, or the one god just by washing away their sins, this upset the leading Jews, so to keep people happy they chopped of his head, over the next 300 years this group grew that believed sins could be washed away by being baptized and giving your self to one god, in fact 100's of sects started to appear all over the empire, the empire was getting concerned because all these sects started fighting with each other, so the empire decided that they would have one universal religion(catholic = universal), the roman army said no way were they changing there's, but agreed to let him be renamed as Christ, so the Romans did this, they allowed the army to carry on calling him mithrtas, but made every one else worship the roman army god they called Christ, the true people that had the religion that turned the other cheek, were all hunted down and killed, but the practice of being baptized carried on.

If you have been baptized or are a Baptist then you follow john and not this guy called Christ who's real name is mithras and lived 500bc in Persia.

The story of mithras is word for word the same as Christ, to have the story of Christ written down 500 years before he is said to have lived has really upset the church, the USA have now taken over all digs in Iraq and you are not allowed to see the tablets, but many took pictures and stole a few before the USA invaded, but the genie is now out the bottle, so this Christian religion only has a short life time unless they destroy all those that know, and they have done that in the past.

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There are similarities in many religions or 'myths' (depending which beliefs you hold, one person's religion is another person's myth.) But I think it's rude to insist that someone else's belief is not 'real' or to rewrite it for them, according to your own perspective. No one has to believe a certain way, but to tell someone else what their religion 'really' means, or they are wrong about this or that, from the outside, is strange and wrong-headed at best. You don't have to believe it  yourself, but why go out of your way to taunt them about it. Your claims are just strange, to me. If you said you worship mithras or whatever, I guess that's one thing. But you don't have to add the rest into it. Like folding motor oil into a cake batter. Just leave other people's beliefs in peace, why don't you?