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01-20-2012 01:38 PM
Scenario
Worked with a creator to build a MESH that looks great and have adapted it into a build and went to list it for sale... to be clear - I AM NOT THE CREATOR OF THE MESH but have come to an agreement with the creator to list the item. I can't list the item on the marketplace as partial MESH without completing the IP quiz (done) and having PIOF (not going to do this out of principle).
Can I sell the object in world without getting into trouble as it's actuallly one of my buildings? Not going to until I have clarification (wouldn't be right for the purchasers)
Is this a bug that people (without PIOF) can have full-perms MESH?
Please offer your feedback and if there is a JIRA on this, the link would be appreciated.
Black
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01-20-2012 02:01 PM - last edited on 01-20-2012 02:01 PM
Just like full perm sculpty's there will be numerous mesh builder packs. Do you really think every1 is going to need to be PIOF? No, you don't. It is the creator of the mesh that will be in trouble if it gets flagged as an infraction.
Now, on to the issue of no PIOF, on principle. What principle would this be? I mean you are gonna sell something, and it's not like every1 can see your info. Personally tho, it really won't bother me at all if all users had to be PIOF, if they want to sell a mesh. This would be impossible to enforce tho.
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01-20-2012 02:42 PM - last edited on 01-25-2012 11:24 AM
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01-20-2012 03:30 PM
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Reply to Madeliefste Oh - view message
01-20-2012 03:40 PM
Well that is stupid if that is true that that you cannot sell a partial mesh item on MP if you havent done the MESH TEST and have PIOF.
This is the perfect example.... the creator of the item being listed was not the MESH CREATOR.... he / she is only the assembler of a mix of imput material. Why has LL decided that only if Mesh is involved must a selling merchant have to abide by all requirements for creating a mesh. They are not creating the mesh... only using it as an input.
If this is the case, why is LL not demanding that merchants that use my sculpty maps for their builds not being asked to do this test or have PIOF?
This is silly and a half baked idea.
As for a user having or not having PIOF... that is the merchants choice and no one should question why. I personally didnt want to have PIOF and only did it eventually in order for me to withdraw my profits from SL.
The decision is personal and I understand the reasons why he wouldnt - I surely didnt want to.
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Reply to Toysoldier Thor - view message
01-20-2012 10:44 PM
Toysoldier Thor wrote:The decision is personal and I understand the reasons why he wouldnt - I surely didnt want to.
I ask this, not confrontationally, but just seeking understanding; why? I could understand that having to have PIOF would be a problem if you couldn't do it, but if you could, why would yoi mind? I especially wonder, since you can register a throwaway CC number (or prepaid debit card number) and have PIOF, and if you use it just once, you can have PIU, after which you can cancel it and have nothing on file without affecting your PIU status.
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Reply to Jennifer Boyle - view message
01-20-2012 11:11 PM
Jennifer Boyle wrote:
Toysoldier Thor wrote:The decision is personal and I understand the reasons why he wouldnt - I surely didnt want to.
I ask this, not confrontationally, but just seeking understanding; why? I could understand that having to have PIOF would be a problem if you couldn't do it, but if you could, why would yoi mind? I especially wonder, since you can register a throwaway CC number (or prepaid debit card number) and have PIOF, and if you use it just once, you can have PIU, after which you can cancel it and have nothing on file without affecting your PIU status.
As was mentioned.... its a matter of policy / principle when operating online with online gaming / social networks to have a strong level of adherence to maintaining high anonymity. I really didnt want even LL to know my RL personal identification - in any way.
LL has proven countless times since I started how weak and immature both their development and business policies are. To give a company like this my RL credentials (even yoru "throw away" CC means they now know your RL name and likely credit check you through that card to find out more about you) is something I was and still am uncomfortable about when I generally do not prefer giving out my RL ID that ties it to my SL/online personna. I dont want my anyone generally to relate my SL and RL.
So... myself and many others like me have a policy that we generally do not like breaking of not release RL identity from our online alias.
thats why.
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01-21-2012 04:55 AM
BlackMagi Darkwatch wrote:Scenario
Worked with a creator to build a MESH that looks great and have adapted it into a build and went to list it for sale... to be clear - I AM NOT THE CREATOR OF THE MESH but have come to an agreement with the creator to list the item. I can't list the item on the marketplace as partial MESH without completing the IP quiz (done) and having PIOF (not going to do this out of principle).
Can I sell the object in world without getting into trouble as it's actuallly one of my buildings? Not going to until I have clarification (wouldn't be right for the purchasers)
Is this a bug that people (without PIOF) can have full-perms MESH?
Please offer your feedback and if there is a JIRA on this, the link would be appreciated.
Black
You can't list Mesh items without having PIOF? I didn't realise this, What happens when someone buys a full perm mesh item for building purposes then? They can't list it on the marketplace? This is very silly.
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01-21-2012 05:42 AM
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Reply to Paula001 Goldschein - view message
01-21-2012 10:17 AM
Cause it would stop the alt abuse on throw away accounts, every one accountable, even the alts



