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    Do you need to vent about things COVID-19?

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    54 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said:

    Well, no. Which is actually precisely my point.

    You have broken this down into a neat and highly reductive binary: "appeasement" or "total war." What I'm suggesting is that neither, employing your own historical example, has produced very satisfactory results.

    Chamberlain enabled Hitler through appeasement. Churchill helped get rid of Hitler, but enabled Stalin, though war. I'm not seeing a whole lot of difference, to be honest, in the results of these two approaches. The "sausage making" that you are endorsing actually helped produce a situation in some ways even worse than Chamberlain faced.

    What is needed is a way to break out of this violent and ultimately profitless cycle of one or the other. God knows, we don't want to appease the racists, the fascists, the misogynists, and the homophobes. But total war against them isn't going to work either.

    Surely we're sufficiently clever and subtle to come up with some alternate strategies? Perhaps ones that strike at the root of these evils, rather than seek (fruitlessly) to eradicate the symptoms?

    You are interested in convincing white supremacists that Black and brown people are their equal. Laudable. (But just see what happens if you ever  ask them to say it.)

    I am interested in justice, before anything else. I don’t want to hear the delusional, ignorant garbage that leads them to think they are entitled to overturn our election and murder anyone who gets in their way.

     

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    17 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said:

    And left, as part of his legacy, and Roosevelt's, half of Europe in the thrall of a dictator every bit as brutal as Hitler.

    Not a great example, perhaps?

    Actually Stalin was worse. 

    But why do you think England and America, fighting with the Soviets against Hitler, should have declared hot war on them instead of the cold war we did launch? 

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    4 hours ago, Arielle Popstar said:

    I think this past year of all the BLM protests and riots have likely ticked a lot of people off to a point where they are starting to have some resentments they did not have before as well as that if they are being told over and over again that they have white superiority, they are actually taking it on.  It works that way unconsciously. Whatever one believes about another, they will unconsciously take that belief on. As you believe, so it will be.

    So it is the fault of BLM marchers that the white supremacists are resentful and angry. The same BLM marchers that caused people all over America and the world to pour onto the streets chanting NO JUSTICE, NO PEACE day after day. That made the innocent white supremacists, who were told they “have white superiority” , so mad! If only they hadn’t been told they were superior! Then maybe they would not have tried to violently overturn the election and kill five people.

     

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    8 minutes ago, Rolig Loon said:

    I know,  Pam. As I said,  I don't feel proud of myself for being silent as much as I  am these days. I am not drawn naturally to standing out in crowds,  despite having forced myself to do it for a long time before I retired. I don't like the feeling of resignation, but I am tired of trying to convince the inconvinceables. I don't even like sausage. 

    I don’t believe they can be convinced of anything, a waste of time to try. But we can call it out when we see it. 

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    2 hours ago, Rolig Loon said:

    As much as I wish it were not true, I'm afraid you are right, Maddy.  I know too many people whose default behaviors are driven by envy, greed, and resentment. It is hard to get into a rational debate with people who have a visceral distrust of anyone who appears to be smarter, richer, more handsome, luckier .... than they see themselves to be. 

    I find myself retreating into silence rather than confronting entrenched resentment on either of the political extremes, and I dislike myself for it.  It is not appeasement, because I have not ceded ground, but I have not defended it either.  I find myself haunted by the maxim that all that is necessary for evil to prevail in the world is for people of good will to do nothing.  And yet I justify my reaction by quoting the opposing advice: "Never mud wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty and the pig loves it."

    Chamberlain wrestled w the pig. Churchill declared war on it and made sausage. 

    After 400 years of this outrage, it’s time to make sausage.

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    1 minute ago, Ceka Cianci said:

    A lot of it was state and local governments also..

    After being cooped up, people didn't need here too much to get back outside..

    I picture it like me messing with my dogs when I'm about to let them outside.. they start to hear the familiar words.. Hey guys, do you wanna go *Then the ears go up as the heads rise up from the floor* To the KITCHEN!  Heads go back down..

    Hey Guys* Ears and heads pop back up tongues hanging out their mouth's looking all excited* How you doin? Heads drop back down..

    Hey Guys,  * Ears pop up head pops up and both on their feet* Do..........You....*tails wagging like crazy so excited that they are meeping* WannaGoOutSIDE!!  * running in place until they gain traction*

    hehehe

    Australian dogs must not feel the same.

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    44 minutes ago, FairreLilette said:

    Yeah, really without going into details as I have plans now and must go.  I'm angry at COVID, it's going to change the world period.   

    When your car runs out of gas I guess you get angry at it.

    Covid has been and is changing the world, but not in ways you would like.

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    4 hours ago, Ceka Cianci said:

    I look at those things.. But I also look at when the country first started to get laxed again in the summer..

    Remember those first stories about people coming back out flooding boardwalks and parks and things like that..

    I was like, It's not over yet ,get away from each other!! Winter is still coming you fools!! \o/

    Here we are now, just like 100 years ago..

     

    I will say though, we had a bad patch at work where it seemed  like there was always a couple people out because of either being around someone that was infected or they were infected..

    It's been about 3 weeks since I've heard of anything at the plant since then.. Knocks on wood and hoping that's a good sign.

    People coming back out and spreading infection was because the administration embraced herd immunity, opened up businesses prematurely, mocked mask wearers, and threw huge superspreader events.

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    Australian Associated Press
    Sat 6 Feb 2021 00.25 EST

    Australia has marked another day with no locally acquired cases of Covid-19 as more stranded Australians prepare to come home when international arrival caps return to higher levels.

    New South Wales, Victoria, Queensland and South Australia all announced zero local Covid-19 cases on Saturday in their respective 24-hour reporting windows.

     

    Western Australia, which on Saturday exited its five-day lockdown after a hotel quarantine worker picked up the virus, also recorded no local cases.

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    3 minutes ago, Ceka Cianci said:

    Yea, that could be a possibility.. But where she works was getting pretty bad like a petri dish also.. From what she had told me before she ever had it.. Her and one other person in their section of their plant were the only ones left that hadn't gotten it yet.She was complaining about being tired having to work so much extra over time because of the others being in quarantine..so it's hard to say really..

    It’s a crying shame that such working conditions were allowed, much less pretty much blessed by the previous admin’s cdc. 

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    19 minutes ago, FairreLilette said:

    I'm angry at this COVID for taking jobs.  

    Really? Angry at a virus.

    You know why I am angry? I am angry at the people who cost us tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of lives that could have been saved. Not just those who refused to do their jobs but all those who shamelessly supported them and still do. Not just those who flew all over the country doing super spreader events but those who attended. 

     

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    Do you need to vent about things COVID-19?

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    5 minutes ago, Ceka Cianci said:

     

    He was so worried that he didn't even care if he got it when she was breathing really hard.. He was right with her the whole time..

    Some people may just already be immune or something..

     

    A lot of people are asymptomatic super spreaders without ever knowing it, and already over it by the time they were tested.

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