[Oh my Gawd! - Totally unOfficial Pet Peeve Thread.]

12 minutes ago, Vanessa Amethyst said:

No I don't believe that the symbols of the CSA belong in the town square I do feel its wrong to remove them from the cemetery the grave yard is a place where people hold sacred to the memory of there love ones anything placed there was not out of come campaign of fear or whatever but as a place of memory and What better place to remember bad ideas than a place where the dead are remembered.  and no matter what the person below ground felt we need to retain our humanity and remember respect the persons intured purely out of the fact that they were human. 

 

and thus my pet peeve is displayed here Something that was purely done to RESPECT THE DEAD has become political. note both the US flag and the other were knocked over likely by the wind if you see something knocked over in a grave yard it is simply respectful to place it upright. it is not a place to let your political feelings get in the way. 

I understand your point but I think few dead Nazis in Germany have Nazi symbols on their graves. There might be other things they did to earn respect but being a Nazi was not among them. 

 

 

[Oh my Gawd! - Totally unOfficial Pet Peeve Thread.]

7 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said:

I've just watched this.

I'm not going to berate anyone about his comments or his action here, but I am going to gently suggest that he is wrong, and that flags and statues aren't "history" -- they are symbols that have particular meanings. Erecting a statue of Robert E. Lee isn't about acknowledging his existence -- we don't need a statue in a very public place to do that. It's instead about honouring him as a "hero" and a great leader worthy of emulation. We don't put up statues of people who we don't think are worthy of being honoured and imitated, do we?

Similarly, a Confederate flag, particularly one that has obviously been placed on the grave recently, is a symbol of a particular regime and culture that was an historical fact -- but the flag, again, isn't "history" so much as it is restatement of the frankly evil and inhumane things for which the Confederacy stood.

History, properly understood, isn't about great heroes or causes -- it's an incredibly complicated narrative that needs to be analyzed critically and understood with reference to causes, implications, connections, and effects. Those who erect statues -- whether of Lee or of MLK Jr. -- aren't really practicing "history" because these are simplistic reductions of that complexity: they do not represent a full understanding of the historical significance of these people. They are political statements, and need to be understood and treated critically as such.

And where the statue or the flag is a political statement for a great evil -- which the cause of slavery unquestionably was - we need to ask ourselves whether this is something we want to continue to honour in this way.

Removing the flag has nothing to do with dishonouring or disrespecting the long-dead person buried. It is instead about refusing to buy into continued attempts by the living to honour a truly evil ideology.

For a minute there it looked like people got it. Flags and statues came down.

If you blinked you missed it.

[Philip Rosedale is back as "Strategic Advisor"]

11 minutes ago, Cinnamon Mistwood said:

Knowing why people made accounts and logged in would be nice to know if growing SL is the goal.  When I first joined, I had no idea that people did the sexxies online.  I have learned a lot that I didn't need to know in the last decade+.

I joined to meet people from other places, to make my very small RL bigger, and to "travel" to places, real and imaginary, that I could never see in RL.  I also joined as a challenge to learn some new skills.  I stayed because I enjoyed both of those things over the years and still do.  I knew absolutely no one who was already in here.  I saw an advertisement somewhere saying I could meet people from all over the world.

Agree, meeting people is primary. If my intro to SL had been a scenic cafe where I could have sat and chatted or danced, I might have stayed there, at least until heard about the advantages of leveling up.

[Philip Rosedale is back as "Strategic Advisor"]

I just played Wordle for the first time, now I am hooked, like millions over the past few weeks. Because it is simple, easy, fun. Like Roblox. Or Words w Friends. Unlike SL.
 

My suggestion wrt SL attracting new users has always been to hire experts in task analysis (educators) to design an introductory SL experience. A place to have fun without having to undergo the trial by fire that we all survived but most do not. Sort of like, you can stay there or you can level up to current SL experience. Maybe Phillip gets that? 

BTW for about five minutes there was once a basic web based intro to SL which I thought did a pretty good job. Ideally that would be the best way to introduce ppl to SL.No idea why it disappeared.

Wordle 212 4/6

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[Philip Rosedale is back as "Strategic Advisor"]

39 minutes ago, Coffee Pancake said:

When your only metric of consequence is growth .. and there is no growth .. it's assuredly a trash fire.

The global pandemic hit and rather than focus their efforts on SL as place to reconnect personally and escape, LL's brainchild idea was ...  https://www.connect.secondlife.com/about ... I don't think we need see the balance sheet to know how successful that was. Or  Tilia .. an endeavor that's measuring growth in terms of hiring, not customers, of which it has only the ones it started with.

Prior to that business numbers moved all the companies efforts and staff away from SL to Sansar .. how far back to you want to go?

SL is doing fine, it it wasn't, LL couldn't have been off doing side quests for a decade while this platform coasted into irrelevance.

Speaking of side quests .. LL just bailed out HiFi, bought up their IP, hired all the staff and spun it as the rereturn of the King.

 

How does this help SL compete with Meta or VRChat or Roblox or any one else .. who knows.

I can’t believe they resorted to promoting SL as a corporate tool again, after the spectacular flop that was. LL ought to dig up the SL history someone wrote years ago and give it to staff. (But add a new chapter on how LL went into competition with its own clients, landlords and home builders.)

 

[The "No Mod" thing has to go... ( Rant Season 2022 )]

3 hours ago, Sukubia Scarmon said:

Because a red textured dress will always looks different, and much better, than a white dress tinted red, because with tinting, you also tint the highlights, which makes things look odd and dull.

Yep. I get why some creators don’t want their names on something on which the shading and highlights have been tinted over.

[Confusing!]

11 minutes ago, Blaise Glendevon said:

So dramatic. It's really not as complex as this thread is catastrophizing it to be.

Okay, some people knit for fun.

[question about reporting someone for stealing lindens]

45 minutes ago, sandi Mexicola said:

My understanding (based on hearing from others) is that LL generally does not get involved in monetary disputes between residents.  😔

No they don’t but iirc will investigate outright fraud, esp when it involves a large sum. Could be mistaken.

[Confusing!]

16 minutes ago, Blaise Glendevon said:

I just don't get how complicated this is for some people. Once you have your preferred body and head dialed in (I rotate between two or three bodies and a cabinet full of heads from different brands, and that's just my human avatars. My furry avatars are a whole other subject) you just swap out your skins and clothes. Learning the system is tricky to start, but once you have it, it's pretty standard.

And some people climb Mt. Everest or jump out of airplanes or ride rollercoasters for fun. 

 

[Confusing!]

Early on I obsessively tweaked Pamela’s appearance but I haven’t changed anything about her including her clothes in at least five years. I feel like I have been forced and continue to be forced to constantly learn too many new technological survival skills already, I have no appetite for the equivalent of learning to fly a 747 just to keep my Barbie updated. 

[question about reporting someone for stealing lindens]

I  am not inworld to check but at one time FRAUD was one of the abuse categories you could choose. I suspect the amount of money involved matters as well. 

[The "No Mod" thing has to go... ( Rant Season 2022 )]

I don’t sell no mod products, but I empathize a little bit with those who do. When someone tints my soft peachy villa purple and black, and decorates it like Mar a Lago, I wince at the thought that my name is on it as creator.

But it’s the buyer’s villa and she can do with it as she pleases. 

 

 

 

[TLDR]

5 minutes ago, Mollymews said:

i was expecting this and it came on the first response

kehehehehe 😸

Was pretty low hanging fruit all right.

[TLDR]

I started reading it but….it was TLDR.

[What is Your RL Job?]

I quit my Texas public school teaching job in 2009 to make content for my SL store. Hard to say which I have loved more. 

[Philip Rosedale is back as "Strategic Advisor"]

1 hour ago, Chris Nova said:

You either flow with the times or get left behind. Prims are primitive and very unattractive. Second Life could benefit from mesh tools, replacing prims.

SL has been doing everything the devs can think of to “flow with the times” but lost what made SL grow — exclusively USER created content.   There were amazing prim artists but mostly just regular people who enjoyed making things because it was easy and fun. Those people are mostly gone now. SL is not a place that inspires users to create. And it’s no longer just users that create content. 

Meanwhile ugly Roblox has 43 million active daily users, because it really is their world, their imagination, and taps into the desire to create.

BTW I did go with the flow and learned to make mesh content. I just don’t want to see more “innovations” that further stymie SL. Focus on accessibility and easy creation tools, tap into the creative impulse. 

(We have been having this same discussion since SL was born, btw.)

[Philip Rosedale is back as "Strategic Advisor"]

I remember when SL was like an upscale Roblox, and everyone could learn to build inworld With prims — but ppl clamored for mesh and got it. Which meant it was no longer necessary to build anything if you didn’t feel like learning 3d, but to just import and sell. 

And SL shrunk.

So I am hoping for more along the lines of making SL more accessible and bugs fixed rather than more new bells and whistles. 

[Have your Alpha Modes changed to "None"?]

Okay, LL, time to fix this ancient bizarre bug.

[A question about reviews in SL Marketplace.]

Pinned at the top of this forum:

 

 

[How would you like to be remembered?]

2 hours ago, Rolig Loon said:

As Marigold says, people are forgotten.  The things that last are the small changes we each make that affect the course of other lives, even as we are forgotten for having done them.

This. 

Ozymandias 

BY PERCY BYSSHE SHELLEY

I met a traveller from an antique land,

Who said—“Two vast and trunkless legs of stone

Stand in the desert. . . . Near them, on the sand,

Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,

And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,

Tell that its sculptor well those passions read

Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,

The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;

And on the pedestal, these words appear:

My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;

Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!

Nothing beside remains. Round the decay

Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare

The lone and level sands stretch far away.

[Vaccination]

I feel like I am living in a dystopian Kafkaesque Nazi nightmare from which I can’t wake up.

OTOH, I feel a warm solidarity with everyone except the white supremacist murder suicide group. We are in this together as we have never been in my lifetime. We are united not by the color of our skin but the content of our character.

 

 

[Vaccination]

Things that are a personal decision:  

Stopping at stop signs

Smoking in restaurants

Wearing seatbelts

Obeying the speed limit

Shooting people 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Owner can’t copy contents of box.]

22 hours ago, Emma Krokus said:

I've had similar messages when I have been in a lagged sim - it seemed like it took time for the contents to register.

(I don't believe the 0,0 applies to opening boxes - I think it's to do with restore to position.)

 

You were right!  From the customer:

 OK, my fault, I was just too excited to set it up on my island and didn't wait for it to load. Sorry for the bother.

[Owner can’t copy contents of box.]

25 minutes ago, Emma Krokus said:

I've had similar messages when I have been in a lagged sim - it seemed like it took time for the contents to register.

(I don't believe the 0,0 applies to opening boxes - I think it's to do with restore to position.)

 

Thanks Emma. I did tell her to relog, try different region -- will report back if mastery solved.

[Owner can’t copy contents of box.]

I got this message from a customer:

” purchased the Wolf Creek Cabin from the Marketplace yesterday. When I right click on the box to open and transfer to inventory the contents I receive this message there are no items in the object that you are allowed to copy. I have read through all your FAQ's. What am I doing wrong?”

 

I have sold the house for several years with no problem but have never seen this before. I dimly recall that there was something about owning the land at 0,0 in order to copy? Anyone encountered this ?