Coffee Pancake
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2 minutes ago, Starberry Passion said:
the body, itself, does have characters of adult, but not sexual characteristics, because a body isn't sexual until someone sexualizes it. The body is natural.
But I was talking about this before, it has adult features in every aspect of the bodies, Legacy, Maitreya, Kupra, Reborn and others like it.
Quote* Wearing genital/sexual attachments including clothing, attachments or HUDs created for and/or worn by child avatars to indicate genitalia, whether visible or not.
I would presume this doesn't only apply to male genitalia or additional parts.
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12 minutes ago, Rowan Amore said:
How does.that make sense? If I use Maitreya to make a teen avatar, all I need is to use a skin with baked on undies. If I decide.to be an adult avatar tomorrow, I can change shapes and heads and use an adult skin on that same Maitreya body.
Actually .. this has just been brought to my attention,
Maitreya (and other adult bodies) have geometry based sexual characteristics. Making a child avatar with that body isn't possible as the body itself violates the rules.
Does this mean that anyone wearing Maitreya could not be considered an child avatar and is therefore .. safe ?
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4 minutes ago, Rowan Amore said:
How does.that make sense? If I use Maitreya to make a teen avatar, all I need is to use a skin with baked on undies. If I decide.to be an adult avatar tomorrow, I can change shapes and heads and use an adult skin on that same Maitreya body.
You are not allowed to make a child avatar with Maitreya as there is no possibility for a modesty layer that can't be removed.
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1 minute ago, brodiac90 said:
It goes further than that. The skin must be made by the creator of the body and be locked in so there is never an option to be removed. The body must never be able to be nude. If you buy other skins with the modesty layer but the body is still capable of wearing a skin without the layer then you're not compliant.
This interpretation breaks BOM entirely for all child avatars. There could be no BOM clothing at all.
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Q: I already have a child avatar that does not have a built in modesty layer. Can I still use that since I purchased it already?
A: No. Going forward, child avatars will be prohibited from being fully nude.
All existing child avatars are in violation.
Every single one of them.
BOM is not sufficient. They ALL will have content that will open them up to abuse reports if used by mistake (as part of an existing outfit) or they do not see or understand the new rules.
Only a tiny fraction of this content will get updates.
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How do you define a child avatar?
A: We are relying on the community to use their best judgment to determine if they are using a child avatar or not. Creating a list of specifications for something like this can be a slippery slope, and we certainly don’t want to give out directions on how to circumvent any policies. If a reasonable person would look at the features of your avatar and consider it underage, we would recommend not engaging in adult activities on that account. Apart from considering the avatar's appearance, the team considers various other factors, such as the purpose for which the avatar is being used.
This is not sufficient.
Please define where the line is. One reasonable person is another's raving lunatic.
The punishment for not knowing where governance draw the line is an all accounts perma ban.
This is worse than secret ratings for marketplace words. If someone gets that wrong they don't lose everything.
Are babyfurs and furry cubs child avatars ? They are not "children".
Are anime avatars automatically children?
Are anime avatars in sailor fuku automatically children?
How does this affect the ABDL community? (who are, by definition, adults)
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4 minutes ago, Sammy Huntsman said:
So you saying false report them? If that is the case, you are basically breaking TOS to falsely report
griefers and liars do not care about the tos. All rules will be weaponized
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When the punishment for them getting it wrong is an all accounts perma ban. I’m glad to see the appeal process remains unchanged.
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1 minute ago, Scylla Rhiadra said:
Region owners are going to have a decision here: what is more important to them? Adult activities, or kiddie avatars?
This bans child avatars. It’s just region owners acting out of fear rather than LL.
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Wanna risk it.
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It breaks all existing child avatars.
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Stand next to afk child avatar naked. Report.
derender clothing of adults near child avatars. Report.
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So …. They do know there is no warning when teleporting to A land, right ???
Offer child avatars teleports. Report them the moment they land. Shrug.
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44 minutes ago, Ceka Cianci said:
Thunes will have your financial information, not your second life account information.
they will likely have both as part of the transaction
we dont added funds to a personal account and then distribute it to our in world avatars, its a per avatar relationship
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15 minutes ago, Zalificent Corvinus said:
Tilla are the ones who hold that US$ account. so yes.
I can see that needing to be addressed, it's not uncommon to hold a USD balance for paying Teir or membership fees. if this is held by an external company then does that incur fees when passed from thunes to Linden Lab.
If I leave US$ on my account, that should be held by @Linden Lab not a 3rd party.
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11 hours ago, Zalificent Corvinus said:
Tilla appears to be a quicker, easier, and cheaper way of getting 48 Money Transfer Licences in the USA, than doing it them selves from scratch.
If that's how little Tilia went for ... we have about 2 years to come up with an alternative for the SL economy
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15 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said:
Getting "real" for a moment, I believe some of the oldbies ("advisors") don't have a 1-minute wait between posts (I do).
At 35.4K posts, it doesn't seem to be slowing you down.
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7 minutes ago, animats said:
If we upload the well known Bistro test scene into a sandbox, will it work?
It better or this is all for nothing.
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Gatekeeping who can participate in the SL economy is probably the dumbest idea I've heard on these forums, and I was here for covid.
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36 minutes ago, Innula Zenovka said:
Oberwolf spoke in the Lab Gab about the high cost of running and maintaining the Lindex. If you do not disbelieve him, how do you think those costs should be covered?
No, he didn't.
He spoke about the high cost of running Tilia, as in the licensed money exchange part of the program.
The Lindex is still part of Second Life and will remain so, it is not expensive to run.
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If nothing else we urgently need to see reduced L$ purchase and sale fees.
Thunes will be taking their cut as money handler, Linden Lab shouldn't have their fingers in the pie too.
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So we just had a lab gab, blah blah blah ... the contents are not what this thread is about.
Would they be better with a real human rather than an avatar ?
Brad sounded pretty excited and animated .. and his avatar is a brick, the whole scene was stiff and unreal. Weird .. in a way that kinda makes sense to us, but, unwatchable to anyone else.
SL is real people not puppets.
Minecraft use real people with real names, so does everyone else.
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The PC I sit at .. it's a Frankenstein, parts of my home / build server, parts of my gaming rig, all hodge podged together with the drives from my NAS after shuffling PC parts about to donate some upgrades .. that I then stuck a 4080 super in for blender reasons (and am now in limbo as I need a new mobo that has space for a second GPU, only this card is 3.5 slots and insanely big). I have no idea what it's cost or worth a this point. Gentoo Linux with an occasionally used PCI pass-though windows VM (mainly for steam VR->quest3 games)
I'm probably just going to build it into a 19" rack and fill it with water cooling and unicorn vomit leds.
I have spent thousands on PC's and hardware to test, debug and benchmark SL. including a number of original cheese-grater mac pros & M1 laptop, boxes of graphics cards (many of them picked specifically because they had terrible drivers).PC, hardware in general and restoring stuff is a major hobby and I have computers going back 40 years and all the tooling needed to work and repair them. It's been fun giving some of this junk of a little extra life while working on Catznip, especially when it's been to gain insight into issues that only really show up on actual ewaste.
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So what changed in the Terms of Service?
in General Discussion Forum
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Toddler avatars (and some bigs kids) use RLVa based control attachments, so could be force teleported into adult regions. We will be looking at adding some protections for this, but it could be some time before it's live in everyone's TPV of choice.