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  1. Krash1989 wrote:

     

     

    I personally understand both sides to the argument while some DJs prefer to just mix, while some like the idea of interacting with their fans on a voice level. I personally prefer to let the music keep going, and interact with the fans while I DJ via local chat.

     

     

    it can be both, however with local chat then need to take your hostie (if you have one) into account. You don't what to come over the top of them too much

    with voice I think that the 3-song bracket (10-15 duration minutes typically) is pretty much been tried and proven over decades of radio station play. In the break between each bracket, announce whats coming, run the venue ads, any relevant patron/hostie thankies and hiyas.  Using local chat for more immediate thankies, and or general conversation which is not tied to the session itself


  2. Phil Deakins wrote:

    DJs have fans? Why? Surely it's the music that has fans. DJs merely put it on.

    That said, of the choices given, I would prefer a DJ to speak, especially if s/he has some personality. I could understand a DJ with a well defined personality having fans - because of the personality, but not because s/he plays songs. Anyone can do that, so I can't see such a DJ having any fans. Friends who go their gigs, yes, but not fans.

    A SL DJ is the equivalent of a RL club DJ and also a radio station music programmer. Getting the mix of music right is pretty critical to which station we tune into and/or which club we go to

    for example with SL, most patrons who tip generously are older people, 40+ yo. So for example if you DJing a rock club then your mix needs to be biased toward 80s rock bands, with some few later more modern tracks, rather than lots of more modern stuff

    probably the least played rock music styles in SL are alt and emo. Mostly because with older patrons these are the styles that their teens and now 20-somethings children listen too. And is a bit disconcerting (sad even maybe) for parents to get snapped rocking out to their teen kids music. SL rock club DJs have a understanding of this

    country music club example. If playing the lateshift (10pm to 6am weekdays) then the patrons/listeners are attending/listening while winding down before bed, so have to playlist a lot of slower ballady stuff as opposed to more uptempo tracks

    if the club is techno and is lots of women present then need to mix a lot of trance into the playlist rather than hardstyle

    and so on

    when a SL DJ seems to manage all this well then typically it turns out that they also have RL experience, as a RL club DJ and/or radio station programmer

    fan might not be the exact word in the context you have given to understand, but good DJs do get a following in both SL and RL even if when they never say hardly anything


  3. ChinRey wrote:


    wherorangi wrote:

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    In the former then as the leader of my community then I would act as best I can to protect the reputation and prospects of the community I lead

    That was the point of my first post - not sure if I managed to make that clear. Renting out land for spamming and griefing and other antisocial activities hurts your reputation as a landowner. You loose money on ti because it drives away other more reliable potential renters. The moral aspect is quite interesting and rather complex but it's not actually very relevant in this case: Just be selfish and get rid of them for you own sake!

    yes. I agree with your main point. I was just expanding on the complexity part. Some more on this

    with young people then is often presented to them as role modelling. To older people then noblesse oblige. That as a person of substance much is expected of us by those who we lead, and by those who might follow us

    is an ideal this. As leaders (if this is to what we aspire) we cant always live up to this ideal. We are not perfect beings. All we can do is try as best we can. When we do this then others notice our efforts and are attracted to us. They join our communities (rentals, groups, products/services, etc)

    i think a important part of this is consistency and even-handedness. Like as a group leader we have a set of standards (how ever we might define these for ourself and group/community) which we apply to all consistently. We make no exceptions for habitual transgressors, even when we may often practice tolerance, understanding and forgiveness for the non-habitual transgressors in our group/community

    as a practical remedy in the group spamming case then a way to avoid the he-saids she-saids, is to have one of our group/business alts join the public group of the person making the complaint for a period of time. In the day to day management of their business and without being overly nosey, landlords ordinarily know a whole lot about their tenants. Which accounts/avatars come and go on the parcels, who is in what business and so on

    it doesn't all fall on the landlords and/or group leaders of course. The complainant(s) bears the major responsibility to manage their own affairs, and can ameliorate much of the damage to themselves just by learning from other leaders of substance, how to manage in practical terms public group joins in ways that can foster and grow their community

    noblesse oblige works both ways

    not only is much expected of us by others, much is also expected of us by ourselves. And when we practice this then we find that not only does our group/community prosper and grow, but also other leaders of substance are attracted to us both in business and socially, as we are to them. Reputationally and/or in person. We become in their eyes, as in the eyes of the community we lead, a person of substance in our own right

     

  4. just on the general discussion point

    is more a human thing I think in general

    suppose I am a landlord for example just say. I have a shopping mall. A tenant of mine is habitually spamming my other shop keepers' groups. They ask me to have a word to the tenant about it, they have attempted to do this themselves but nada. As their landlord I have two basic choices: 1) I can say is not my problem and tell them to call the cops. Or 2) I can have a chat to my tenant myself and see what they have to say about it

    i will do 2) because is business

    the question then is: What if my tenant is habitually spamming my potential tenants ? In terms of my own business growth interest (a landlord to the public) should I do 1) or 2) ?

    i think that if the answer is conditional then the condition is: To what degree is my tenant's habitual behaviour harmful to others ? Like does the behaviour actually harm others, or is it just a case of the others' moral code being offended

    harm meaning that the action is a ToS violation and is having a actual negative effect on the targets' own community-building efforts and/or business prospects. Or, it may (or subjectively may not) be a ToS violation which is not harmful to others, unless the others actively seek it out

    in the latter case then my own answer would be: Call the cops. I am not the moral police. In the former then as the leader of my community then I would act as best I can to protect the reputation and prospects of the community I lead

    as a decision in itself then is ok when community leaders of substance (like public landlords and public join group owners) choose not to act in helping to ameliorate the harmful behaviours of their own tenants and/or group members (communities within the larger community)

    however there is a reputational public cost for the group and its leaders who choose not too. And if the community leader(s) is also running a for-profit enterprise (land, content, etc) then it can be expected that this non-participation could also adversely impact their business in the eyes of the public

    as a community leader (public landlord or public group) we do have to weigh all this kinda stuff up, in terms of personal time and effort invested, and what value we might attribute to reputation, prospects, etc, and the public impact there may (or may not) be on this

     

  5. about the TRAMPS

    a group I am always in is SLF&O. Anyone can join the group anytime. Is free to join and has over 20K members

    it used to get more spammers, phishers and beggars than pretty much any other group

    when LL provided the ability to group ban, the group owner and officers took it further. They went thru all 20K+ members and re-assigned every single person in the group to a new role with chat rights

    then when the spammers etc, already members, kept on spamming the group then the officers group banhammered them

    the group is still free to join and anyone can join, and can access all the offers and stuff in Notices

    to get chat ability a new member must IM the owner or an officer and ask to be given a group chat role, which they do for pretty much everyone. If the officers suspect is a bot then they just go nah!. When the person is not a bot then they will engage in a chat dialogue with the officer, from which is pretty easy to tell if is a bot or not

    problem solved


  6. Spicy Braveheart wrote:

    Today, I had an interesting conversation with someone, who had their group spammed by a renter of mine.  The person complained to me that I needed to control what this person spammed in his group. 

    Let me make it very clear to all group owners out there.  IF you have a group and someone is spamming information YOU do not want in it.  Go directly to the person who is spamming you.  You own and control YOUR group! Landlords have no control over what another individual may or may not post in your group. 

     

    i kinda disagree that you as a landlord can opt out altogether

    you do obtain rental payments from the spammer. And given that landlording is intended as a for-profit activity then am not sure that a landlord in this position can just go: Is none of my business what my tenants do

    a word to the tenant would be in order I think, and not so much a public disclaimer absolving yourself. You do profit in part off the monies they do earn this way

     

  7. pretty much can search for any text in the About of another person's profile with the viewer search browser

    also it seems (not absolutely sure for all cases ?! just seems so ) that it doesnt matter what the person's privacy settings are, if you can hit a text within their About then they still show up in the search links

  8. (:

    is ok. I do have a idea of why you want it, and like you say not for nefarious reasons

    i just stick it all in to pre-empt the inevitable o.m.g !!! s that sometimes ends up getting discussed on these kinda topics

     

    a non-nefarious inworld use (built in to the viewer if it was ever done) is for new people. It would give them the ability to search for maybe friends inworld with similar tastes to them

     

  9. i came back to SL a few days ago and went thru the Social Islands new members pathway

    is actually pretty good. The combination of the viewer help system and the Experience HUD makes it pretty good. Was quite a few actual forreal new signups coming in. Can tell who they are because they actually explore the Island

    were a few oldbies hanging out on the central plaform (like there always was since forever) but they were not too bad, relative to some of those oldbie types used to be like in previous times

    a cool thing is that the spawn/landing point on my Social Island is not set to the central platorm. Is set to the grass underneath one of side platforms. The grass is long/high and the platform ceiling is quite low. The configuration is such that for people landing its actually pretty good. It makes you move away as soon as you land. And it discourages the oldbies from parking up there. Very astute Whichever Linden sussed that out

    2 other cool things are:

    1) the additions to the Classic Avatars are excellent. The mesh clothes and hair are really well made and fit the classic avatar for which they are made really well

    2) The most coolest thing of all tho is that when I press the Home button, I get sent back to the Social Island I spawned on, and not to some random WA/Infohub inworld. Something I always thought new people should be able have. The certainty of being able to return to a familar place when something happens to them when they meet something inworld that they are not sure about

    so big ups to LL for all of this I think (:   

     

    eta: The Experience portals seem to match the Destination Guide so in terms of who gets access to the new member stream exiting thru the portals seems to be consistent with that

    the other thing is that the music stream on the Dance club/hall doesnt play. A few people couldnt work why that was. Given that there is a inworld help object which tells them how to check their viewer controls if they cant hear the stream

     

  10. is not possible from within the viewer as it is  This can work. See Qie comment below

    is possible to web scrape/spider (from outside of SecondlLife) the web profiles of those who have Public profiles

    is possible to scrape the web profiles, inworld with a LSL script for Public and SecondLife only profiles

    is a bit stalkery to do this tho I think, even if is not actually against ToS as the ToS is wrote. Is not against ToS because the target has published their profile either to Public and/or SecondLife 

    some SL 'business people' have been known to do this. Building their potential targets advertising databases apparently - adbots.

    some of the more advanced automated scammer operations do this kinda stuff as well 

     

    eta: Public = Everyone (in the Viewer Profile Privacy options)

     

     

  11. undefined json name in the json string returns unpredicatable results. I made a test out of your script to show this. If uncomment the undefined records then will get undefined (unpredictable) returns 

     

    string NOTF = "DSNF";string db;string aktM;string auswertung(string mmsg){  integer i = 0;  string  temp = "?";  string aktMp = "";  do  {    aktMp = aktM + (string)i;    temp = llJsonGetValue(db,[aktMp,"name"]);    //if (temp == JSON_INVALID)       // only for debug    //   llWhisper(0, "JSON_INVALID"); // only for debug    if (temp != JSON_INVALID)       return llJsonGetValue(db,[aktMp,"antwort"]);           ++i;  } while(i <= 12);  // Max Entry in DB per use  return NOTF;}default{    touch_start(integer total_number)    {        db = "{"             + "\"H112\":{\"name\":\"ENDE\",\"antwort\":\"ende\"},"             + "\"H110\":{\"name\":\"SAVE\",\"antwort\":\"Okay\"},"            + "\"H11\":{\"name\":\"P​ause+\",\"antwort\":\"P+\"},"            + "\"H13\":{\"name\":\"Pause -\",\"antwort\":\"P-\"},"            + "\"H14\":{\"name\":\"Rahmen -\",\"antwort\":\"1010\"},"            + "\"H15\":{\"name\":\"Reset\",\"antwor​t\":\"1012\"},"            + "\"H16\":{\"name\":\"Rahmen +\",\"antwort\":\"1011\"},"            + "\"H17\":{\"name\":\"Farbe\",\"antwor​t\":\"1019\"}"            //+ "\"\":{\"name\":\"P+\",\"antwort\":\"\"},"   // undefined json name            //+ "\"\":{\"name​\":\"P+\",\"antwort\":\"\"}"    // returns unpredictable results            + "}";                aktM = "H1";                string m = "Pause +";        integer i;        llOwnerSay("begin...");                for (i = 1; i <= 4; i++)        {            string r = auswertung(m);            llOwnerSay®;            }          llOwnerSay("...end");    }}

  12. Pandorav3 wrote:

    The standard media on a prim (like how you would use for TVs) doesnt seem to work for audio.

    If using a version 4.x viewer (LL or TPV) then you might not have the CEF (Chromium) Flash player installed correctly

    A discussion on how to do this is here:   https://community.secondlife.com/t5/Second-Life-Viewer/4-0-0-308641-media-audio-no-go/td-p/2986882

    The Adobe link in the discussion will take you to CEF flash players for other OS


  13. Estelle Pienaar wrote:

    Maybe there is a way to apply llParseString2List that I have overlooked?

    If the data values were in the range [0..7] (upto 8 unique elements) then could use the spacer parameter of llParseString2List. Example:

     

    list uniques = ["0","1","2","3","4","5","6","7"]; // one of each unique data elementstring my_string = "7654321001234567";  // some datalist newList = llParseString2List(my_string, [], uniques);

     

    If not then looping (stuffing) thru is the simplist

     With looping then if the elements are numerical then from a game runtime pov then is best to cast to integer when stuffing into the list, otherwise they will be stored as strings and each string will be converted to a integer each time the value is called by your game engine (until the value is updated/replaced by a integer). Example of casting:

     

    newList += [(integer)llGetSubString(my_string, w, w)];

     

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