[SL isn't the same any more]

My wife and I are building stuff in Ogilvie.  We buy things too, mostly clothes since we don't want to learn all that, but the landform, the house, the airship, the Pod station are all our build.  We don't really care if others think the house looks like old SL prims - it's all mesh though.  Kya uses a prim to mesh service that cost about $5000L to buy.  I use Blender either from scratch or using her meshes as a starting point. 

The building is the hobby.

We don't want to sell anything anyway.  And it's our estimation that matters to us.

[Gift Card Security]

Hi, I had such good results with my post earlier today, I thought that I would ask you lovely people another question that has been bugging me.

I went to Alien Gizmo's, it's a clothes store.  They had a vendor for a free $250L Gift Card.  The vendors in the store all appear to be Caspervend, who I consider to be relatively trustworthy.  The Gift Card works like a Caspervend Gift Card - you wear it, touch a vendor, the Gift Card displays a button to buy the item and the text above tells you the price and the amount of credit left on the Gift Card.  If you then click the Buy Now button on the Card, the vendor debits the card and the delivery is made.  Great!

Now, if the credit on the card is insufficient to cover the cost, the card asks for permission to debit your Linden Dollar Account for the difference.  Now a dire warning from Linden Labs pops up:

It sounds like you are giving the owner of the store permission to take any amount they want from your Linden Dollar account FOREVER!  The words '...at any time, with no further warning or request'.  I do not trust anyone, not even my mother, with that kind of authority.

As it happens Alien Gizmo's don't seem to have a Gift Card top up system (I thought all Caspervend Gift Cards did - which makes me wary) because that is what I have always done in the past when the Gift Card didn't have enough credit.

What exactly are the risks associated with saying 'Allow access'?  I have quite a bit of $L in my account.

Thanks a Million!  Anna.

 

[[SOLVED] stop others moving things]

I know this sounds stupid, but how would I do that?  It look almost certain that I have (in which case I can stop worrying), but I don't remember doing it.

Thanks Phil and Bree for your help.

OK!!!!!  I just found it (Friends list).  No need to reply to stupid Anna!

 

[[SOLVED] stop others moving things]

Thanks Phil.

I see it now.  And as you say, it isn't set for my objects.  However, if I sign is as my alt, I can move them about.  Not sure how SL knows it's alt.  I'll get a friend to try moving them.

Anna.

[[SOLVED] stop others moving things]

I checked out this article:

and it shows that you can stop other people moving your stuff by un-checking Allow anyone to move. But I can't find this option anywhere.  My General tabs doesn't look like the one in the article either (checked with SL viewer and Firestorm).

AND other people CAN move my stuff, and I want to stop it.  How?

Thanks a bunch!

 

[[Resolved] Mesh render layers issue]

I wouldn't call Photoshop  a 'best practice'.  It's got a dominant market position all right, and lots of people don't know anything else - why would you even try anything else when you have shelled out all that loot for an Adobe product?   Adobe is one of those anti-trust oligopoly companies, like Apple and Microsoft, that some of us wouldn't pay a bent nickel to.

[New Blender Cycles Tutorials]

Thank you so much!  I have been waiting for this series of tutorials - forever!

Stuff I have leaned to do by rote are now starting to make sense.

I'm going to register all my alts to give you more upvotes! (not really, it would be a cheat)

[Can't zoom out to see HUD]

Which viewer are you using?  I just tried it in Firestorm 5.0.1.52150  and I can zoom almost infinitely.

[Blender Unwrapping issue]

How did you unwrap it?   It looks to me like you have the default unwrap, which means that every face is mapped on top of every other one.  Try a Smart Unwrap.

 

 

[Large Mesh Landforms]

Chic Aeon, I seem to be able to walk on mine.  And at about the right height too (which is more than can be said for many places, since hover made people lazy).  Interesting info on the Jira in Firestorm 5.0.1 - which IS what I'm using - thanks KatyProxima.  Thanks for the tips, lag doesn't appear to have changed, ChinRey.

[Large Mesh Landforms]

I offer this just in case it helps someone.  Not looking for help, but feel free to enlighten me....

I needed a large landform for our parcel at Ogilvie.  We are building a very complicated mesh house, with a basement, and I hate landscaping in SL, whatever you do something always screws up nearby.  The answer for me is to push the whole parcel to minimum, and make the land in mesh.

Only this time I got terrible yet subtle distortion that took me a while to work out.

It was uploading different from how it looked in blender.  The problem is prim-size limits.  I had made a mistake in blender of making something bigger in X than the maximum 64 meters, so the uploader squished it, and stretched the Y from 61 to 64, and the X from 70 to 64.  I guess this behaviour might benefit someone, I would prefer it to say 'No!', rather than the silent squish.

So the answer was to split the landform into two, and upload them separately.  Uploading them as a linkset doesn't do it, you get the same squish.  Each upload has to be 64x64x64 maximum.

There is a benefit in doing this.  The LI for the linkset went from 7 to 4  (Download 3.5, Physics 3.0, Server 1.0), and this is using High as the physics, and no analyze.  The two parts can be linked in-world.  The disadvantage is that the upload fee base of $11L has to be paid twice, but the total was only $24L

It was worth the hassle to discover all this.  But, Thank you for Beta!

Anna.

[ayuda para subir mallas]

Google Translate said that he said:

 

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Hi guys, greetings. I know it sounds too noob but then yes, I am and I think that for that is this forum of help. To try to learn and solve problems.

Thank you in advance.

The thing is, I'm starting to design (furniture) in mesh (blender) and get into the game. They tell me about the prim, that should not put so many prim. Wow but no one explains me, I did not even know they were the prim less that less would know how to lower them. I was just creating and setting I see that I have to worry about other things before I do.

The question itself is, How do I reduce them? Do you recommend when uploading a mesh object to SL?

Please thank them endless times.

I do not want my articles to weigh so much or occupy the whole field. A simple table was eaten 70 prim jajajay ojjooo or how to see them, I knew because they told me

There are lots of ways of making low Land Impact (Li) objects.  My wife makes them in prims in SL, like you do, and then uses a converter to make a Mesh version of them.  I make them in blender directly, and then upload the mesh that blender saves as a .dae file into Second Life.  Typically a 70 prim small object will load as less than 1 Land Impact if you know what you are doing, and 70 prim house-size object might be 4 or 5 Li.  There are loads of tutorials about using Blender, Maya, and other 3D programs to do this.  I don't know if there are any in Spanish though.  You'll get better results on this forum by using a translator to post in English.

Hay muchas maneras de hacer objetos de impacto terrestre bajo (Li). Mi esposa los hace en prims en SL, como tú, y luego usa un convertidor para hacer una versión Mesh de ellos. Los hago en la licuadora directamente y luego subo la malla que la licuadora guarda como archivo .dae en Second Life. Normalmente, un objeto pequeño de 70 brocas se cargará como menos de 1 Impacto de Tierra si sabe lo que está haciendo, y 70 objeto de tamaño de la casa puede ser 4 o 5 Li. Hay un montón de tutoriales sobre el uso de Blender, Maya y otros programas 3D para hacer esto. No sé si hay en español. Obtendrá mejores resultados en este foro utilizando un traductor para publicar en inglés.

 

 

 

[help: mesh hitbox dosent fit to the meshs form]

I quite like 'hitbox' for Set of Collision Planes.  Anything to help the tired fingers.

[Blender - Will it kill my Laptop?]

I'm seriously concerned that people think hardware that can be damaged by software is acceptable.  Granted I don't use a laptop, and I don't use Apple or Microsoft anything on principle, but doesn't the OS close down when the temperature rises to a dangerous level?  It shouldn't matter if it's the graphics subsystem (on MB or off it), the Fixed disk, or the CPU, they all have thermal sensors and the OS should be monitoring them.

My 8core AMD-based desktop with AMD R9 graphics with Linux does shut down when I run Ultra on two high rez monitors for long periods, am I reading that with Microsoft Windows 10, I could expect the MB to melt before it turned off?  Sheeesh!

[Blender how do I get rid of this red and white circle?]

Learn the keystroke Shift-S.  Then select 'Cursor to' somewhere else....

I have to do it a gazzilion times every minute, 'cos I can't train my fingers to move from blender to SL and back again.

(Note to self: learn how to set up custom keystrokes, and set one for 'Cursor to Centre')

[Workflow for texturing in Blender and import to SL]

Thanks for trying to help.  I've come to the same conclusion - the flexibility of keeping the upload separate is valuable.

 

[Workflow for texturing in Blender and import to SL]

I know how to make something in Blender. I know how to make a UV Map, and manipulate it to get something I can export and paint. I know how to import the texture I made into SL and apply it to faces I put on the mesh in Blender.  I even know how to upload the texture into Blender, and bake it onto the mesh in Cycles using nodes and the lighting and camera to get the results I want.

But what I can't find is how to export a collada (.dae) from Blender with the baked texture on (in?) it, so that the texture is still there when I import it to SL.  The Blender exporter says it can include textures (I tick the box), and the SL Importer (Firestorm for me) has a tick box for 'include textures'.  But nothing appears.....

I have spent several happy hours searching these pages, and using duck-duck-go to search the internet, but so far my search terms are not yielding anything useful.

Could some kind soul point me at that workflow please?  I'm using Blender 2.78a and Cycles, and I'm making architectural items, not clothes.

[Flat out of ideas.]

Thanks Chic.

I didn't know about the edge-split modifier, and it does seem to do a reasonable job.

I'm meticulous about checking the scale and rotation!

 

[Flat out of ideas.]

Doh!  I knew that (once).   Now I'm not sure how I ever got it to smooth!

Thanks a heap.

Anna.

[Flat out of ideas.]

I'm making a door in blender 2.78.  It has a curved frame, I made it as a half-half, and then used mirror modifier in x and y to make the final shape.  I have carefully (and over and over) checked that all the verts on the facing side are in the same plane.  Yet when I look at it in blender in Object the face exhibits shading.  If I export it to Aditi, I see this as a shading on the face.  It's most noticeable in the two stiles, and worse in sl.  I can hide it with a dark texture, but I want it light.

What am I doing wrong?

[Problem with mesh physics]

As one who has recently started from scratch to learn modelling using blender, I want to encourage you to take the good advice here.  But you need to be prepared for a steep learning curve.  Blender can do everything (I think there is even a way for it to make tea while you are working, but I didn't find that yet :matte-motes-big-grin:) but this comprehensiveness comes at the price of complexity.

What I did was to follow some tutorials.  Up to now, I have played them on my tablet, while I try to copy them on the desktop,  this works well, but I have now invested in a second monitor so I can work on one, and watch on the other.  The other hint I give is to learn to ask Google:  'Blender Join 2 faces'  type questions, you will need to do it frequently.

But in the end it's worth it!

Another approach, for people who just can't get their mind round Blender (or Maja etc...)  is to build everything in prims in SL, or better still Aditi (the SL Beta Grid), and then use a prim to mesh converter.  My partner does this to great effect for buildings. This is the one she uses.

Before she found the converter, we used to export her linksets as collada (dae files) import them into Blender, decimate each prim a bit, join the the prims, and export a new, hopefully simpler and lower Land-Impact mesh.  Trial and error seemed to get us a way forward.

But Blender from scratch is by far and away the best way to go.

 

[To Analyse or not to Analyse, that is the question....]

Thanks Drongle, I am almost able to understand all that....  (at least I think I do!)  What a ride this stuff is!

I'll try some more things myself now. I can't see any reason why this can't be 0.5 thick, as long as most of the thickness is transparent, and Over it rather than under it.

[To Analyse or not to Analyse, that is the question....]

Thanks.

But my question was also about the Developer tool.  It shows that the mesh HAS got a hole in it.  So is this a bug in Firestorm or SL?

[To Analyse or not to Analyse, that is the question....]

OK I have a very simple, but large 30M diameter, octohedron with a 25M octohedral hole in the middle, made in Blender.  Each of the 8 segments is identical, and consists of 4 quads (8 tris after conversion): two are the inside and the outside edges 0.1m wide, two are the identical faces with the 22.5 deg ends.  This is to be the awning round an octablonal structure.

I export it from Blender 2.78, using the preset for SL + Static.  The .dae file contains what I would expect.

In Beta, I import this using the same file for both visual model (High) and Physics.  The file is so simple, anything I could make would be just as complex.

Looking at the preview of the physics I see that the yellow physics model fits, it is co-incident on all faces and edges, and does NOT cover the hole in the centre.  On import without analyse, rez and set to prim, this mesh does NOT, repeat NOT, show a collision surface over the hole using the Render Metadata->Physics Shapes tool in Developer, yet you can walk your avatar over the hole in mid (simulated) air!!!!!  As a prim, this comes in at 1.0 download, 1.0 physics, 0.5 server, and 349 display.  But is useless.

If I do the same thing and Analyse, the physics model is similarly co-incident and now the usual pinky-glow. On import and rez, switch to prim, the mesh behaves as expected and you fall through the hole.  The picture seen in Render Metadata->Physics Shapes is IDENTICAL to the one not analysed.  But as a prim it is 0.9 download, 2.9 physics,  0.5 server, and 339 Display.

Is there a bug in the Render Metadata->Physics Shapes tool?  Or better still, is there a tool that actually shows the physics in world?

 

[Mesh house can't walk into door (again)]

also, related to that... how do I 'really' get onto the beta grid. it seems to be always inaccessible when i try. ??? 

 

Just a thought.  You HAVE raised a ticket to get your account set up on Beta, haven't you?  There is still, as far as I know, a bug, and new users of Beta don't get access unless they ask for it.  The error message looks like it is inaccessible.