LlazarusLlong

The Augusta Committee has a huge problem tomorrow; they have to set up the course so that the chasers have lots of birdie opportunities, but if they do that Spieth is going to break even more records. All they can do is hope a strong wind blows up on the first tee when he starts, and follows him around the course. Otherwise nobody's going to bother watching on Sunday - except we connoisseurs...

Zen Gartner wrote: "But that said, now comes the idiotic over-reaching part " I'm in the UK and I got he same mail. All my payments have been frozen, and since I have no way of getting photo ID even if I wanted t do so , within 30 days. That will end my Second Life. Just fake something. LL won't know the difference. I once showed an LA cop who pulled me over my son's Legoland Driving Licence. Maybe he was as literate as most of the participants of these forums.

Nyll Bergbahn wrote: LlazarusLlong wrote: No, but most of the cognoscenti recognise the real trolls as those who create a brand new alt to initiate a senselessly provocative and badly expressed thread with their first post. Most of the cognoscenti also recognise people who don't engage their brains before typing replies. Last names for new residents were discarded years ago so Feelynx Lavender could not be a brand new alt. In fact, she started in SL in 2010. Perhaps you should read her profile. I, like most forum cognoscenti, have a store of unused alts with lastnames and full profiles from the last decade onwards. Haven't you read any of the Bourne books? Or at least watched the movies, if all those words are too much for you.

Madelaine McMasters wrote: Who doesn't like sparkly sequins?! People with good taste?

Filed under V for Victim Mentality.

That's pretty much the guidelines/rules/advice I started off with, Pam, although it is decades ago now since I frequented Usenet. Rule #18 always made me laugh...

Drake1 Nightfire wrote: LlazarusLlong wrote: Coby Foden wrote: LlazarusLlong wrote: Drake1 Nightfire wrote: And LlazarusLlong responded: Yes, it is far more reasonable to expect the Forums themselves should be working effectively and not shunt you to the blogs every time you click a button. It's not every time for me, just once per session, near its commencement, so I am not overly perturbed. What has started to happen to me every time and every day. • From my dashboard I select "Community, Forums" and sign in there. • Well, after signing in, instead of being directed to the Forums tab, I'm thrown to the Blogs tab. Why? • Ok, I click the Forums tab and start reading posts. • Very soon I notice that I'm not signed in any more. • I sign in again to the Forums and I find myself staring the Blogs. Again! Why? • I click the Forums tab and search the thread where I was when sign out happened. • All the posts in that thread are marked as new! Grrr... • The unwanted sign outs has started to happen even twice while I'm reading the posts. Coby, that is EXACTLY what happens to me. I don't believe it - LL being consistent . . . Fabricational fabricator.. or in laymans terms.. LIAR!!! LlazarusLlong wrote: It's not every time for me, just once per session, near its commencement, so I am not overly perturbed. Is it only once or many times, Mr Llong? The truth, please. Just once per session. If perhaps you are referring to the last of Coby's dot points, I couldn't understand it, so, being courteous, I ignored it. And anyway, I would point you to the advice of a much revered historic frequenter of the forums: "Don't believe everything you read on the internet".

CleoSertorii wrote: Well, i havent done that deliberately, but i have come across many posts made by LL where it seemed obvious thay we was just there to make some dumb**s comment and not contrubute anything useful at all. My case rests.

Coby Foden wrote: LlazarusLlong wrote: Drake1 Nightfire wrote: And LlazarusLlong responded: Yes, it is far more reasonable to expect the Forums themselves should be working effectively and not shunt you to the blogs every time you click a button. It's not every time for me, just once per session, near its commencement, so I am not overly perturbed. What has started to happen to me every time and every day. • From my dashboard I select "Community, Forums" and sign in there. • Well, after signing in, instead of being directed to the Forums tab, I'm thrown to the Blogs tab. Why? • Ok, I click the Forums tab and start reading posts. • Very soon I notice that I'm not signed in any more. • I sign in again to the Forums and I find myself staring the Blogs. Again! Why? • I click the Forums tab and search the thread where I was when sign out happened. • All the posts in that thread are marked as new! Grrr... • The unwanted sign outs has started to happen even twice while I'm reading the posts. Coby, that is EXACTLY what happens to me. I don't believe it - LL being consistent . . .

Perrie Juran wrote: Will you perjure yourself here? Perjury is intentionally lying when you have previously given a commitment to telling the truth. I can recall no requirement in the ToS - or anywhere else on the internet - that requires that commitment. In fact, by demanding that you use an anonymising false name, LL requires you to lie from the getgo. Philosophically, it would not matter whether I tell the truth or lied, as "I (always/sometimes/never) tell the truth" and "I (always/sometimes/never) lie" are semantically content-free, since unlike Joe Thursday's facts, the statements can not be verified or validated.

Feelynx Lavender wrote: The Question i want to put to all you fellow real players am i the only one who thinks that those who take minutes out of their life just to join an online game only to Troll are the REAL Sad and Pathetic ones?, No, but most of the cognoscenti recognise the real trolls as those who create a brand new alt to initiate a senselessly provocative and badly expressed thread with their first post.

Or is he going to choke on Amen Corner? (Opinions invited from those who know the difference between a threesome and a foursome, for example Deja)

Magnus Brody wrote: I am pleased that you can now see it is entirely unreasonable to expect those of less knowledge than yourself, to follow rules that aren't posted anywhere. There's a difference between what I expect and what I desire, and being entirely reasonable I shall continue to campaign against the ignorance that I perceive and expect. The highlighted phrase is redundant of course, as is the comma that follows it.

Also, a search of the forums for the use of "benighted" brings up absolutely no results for its use in any of my posts. There are three five potential reasons for that. 1. Forums Search is defective 2. You are confusing me with Laskya Claren/Scylla Rhiadra, who has a predilection for the use of that archaic word. 3. You are delusional. 4. You ARE Laskya/Scylla. 5. I used it in a post which subsequently was deleted - but it seems unlikely as I abhor archaisms. PS Is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me?

I am delighted that my activities here have provoked you into such a tirade of elegant, yet inaccurately misleading analysis, Ohjiro - but you should really have done it sober.

Muletta wrote: To be honest LlazarusLlong - I would much more prefer some posts about ghoti bearding, rather than these "be-perfect-in-this-forum-campaign-posts. Then you are perfectly at liberty to go and participate in that fish breeding forum. Close the door when you leave.

This is the General Discussions forum. Why don't you post your problem over in Answers? I am sure the dogooders over there will cut and paste several potential suggestions for the reason for the cockup.

Muletta wrote: It could, for that matter, be a forum about fish breeding. And in that forum, what would you think of someone who posted about ghoti bearding?

Muletta wrote: In open chat or in IM inworld, people talk to each other every day, using their own personal way to express themselves. It seems to work fine, in spite of typos etc. etc., and most people find out to understand what others are trying to tell or say....Why suddenly all these demands of being perfect in a forum? Do you understand the difference between a private conversational dialogue and a published discussion to an unspecified audience? Apparently not.

Magnus Brody wrote: Perhaps you could think before posting your unfriendly and tiresome drivel. The clue is in the title, so I am happy to see a discussion about generally anything, including repeated topics or questions. I am less happy with supercilious posts pontificating how the plebeian hordes should behave. As I said in the OP: "GD is for the expression of opinions (although not necessarily accurate, coherent or friendly ones) and the interactive exchange of viewpoints on issues which may have no deterministic resolution, particularly given the spectrum of (non)emotional and political attitudes which forumites possess." You are entitled to your opinions, you are entitled to express them as part of the discussion here, and you are entitled to be considered inaccurate, supercilious, unfriendly and tiresome by me and just as much of a pleb as those with fewer posts to their name. I should add that Drake would probably have considered your post as trolling if it were posted under my name; funny that...

Muletta wrote: But I do not think, that not speaking or understanding English 100% correct, should keep anyone from participating in the English parts of the forum. Do you? Of course not. But I do not think, that not speaking or understanding English 100% correct, should keep anyone [sic] else from pointing out when the content of posts is incoherent, ambiguous, misleading, or simply too horrible to read. Also I do not think that it is just the ESLers who should use the spell-checker, proof their content, and consider whether they are posting to the appropriate forum before they are submitted, for similar reasons.

Drake1 Nightfire wrote: And LlazarusLlong responded: LlazarusLlong wrote: I always understood that before you participated in something it was wise to read the rules, get a handle on the culture of the activity, and try to establish some sort of understanding of the milieu. There are no rules for the Forums, only guidelines. Tell that to the moderators. My observational experience of these forums is that if most new posters joined in a game of soccer, they would probably pick the ball up in their hands and throw it. In the context of online forums, the critical advice I sought and was given was "lurk before you post". From who? From people that would probably not have been so impolite as to point out that it should be "From whom?" Is it really too much to expect of new participants that they should look before they leap? Look where? New users wont know where to look and LL isn't big on helping anymore. See below for several suggestions Is it too difficult to work out that the the Knowledge Base tab might contain information on basic queries that they might have, or even that if they have difficulty searching (possibly because they can't spell accurately) they might identify the Answers tab as being a place they could get [shock] answers? If they knew about them.. The Forum is kind of borked right now. Not that much more than it has been for the last five years or so. And when they decide instead that the Forums are a better place to find knowledge or answers, why do so many identify General DISCUSSIONS as the place to ask questions about their Avatar, Land or Technical matters? You can talk about and ask anything in the General Discussions area.. Which means that I can talk in what I consider to be inappropriate threads about their being inappropriate threads, and ask if the OPs have actually thought before posting them in GD - without it being considered "trolling" (see below) I can only hazard a guess that such naive and annoying behaviour is inspired by the perception that GD is by far the most busy forum, which might mean a speedy response. If it's that annoying, log out... Sometimes I do, and sometimes I post explaining my annoyance, in an attempt to reduce the cluttering up of GD with inappropriate threads which deters the involvement of potential participants who might offer a more interesting discussion. Well, I shall continue to give speedy responses to such unthinking and self-misguided interlopers, pointing out that GD is for the expression of opinions (although not necessarily accurate, coherent or friendly ones) and the interactive exchange of viewpoints on issues which may have no deterministic resolution, particularly given the spectrum of (non)emotional and political attitudes which forumites possess. But you would be wrong. But above you said "You can talk about and ask anything in the General Discussions area"; you are contradicting yourself. You would be trolling, which is against those guidelines we spoke of earlier. As you have suggested above, it would not be trolling; it would contribute to the general discussion regarding the appropriateness of threads which would be better located elsewhere than GD Do YOU think I am being unreasonable in asking that the forums should be used in an effective manner? Yes, it is far more reasonable to expect the Forums themselves should be working effectively and not shunt you to the blogs every time you click a button. It's not every time for me, just once per session, near its commencement, so I am not overly perturbed.

Muletta wrote: some of us also have English as a foreign language in here to contend with. Do you not know that LL provides foreign language forums?

Muletta wrote: 1 This forum has worked well for many years, and also 2 long before you started to participate here. 1 Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! and also 2 Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

I always understood that before you participated in something it was wise to read the rules, get a handle on the culture of the activity, and try to establish some sort of understanding of the milieu. My observational experience of these forums is that if most new posters joined in a game of soccer, they would probably pick the ball up in their hands and throw it. In the context of online forums, the critical advice I sought and was given was "lurk before you post". Is it really too much to expect of new participants that they should look before they leap? Is it too difficult to work out that the the Knowledge Base tab might contain information on basic queries that they might have, or even that if they have difficulty searching (possibly because they can't spell accurately) they might identify the Answers tab as being a place they could get [shock] answers? And when they decide instead that the Forums are a better place to find knowledge or answers, why do so many identify General DISCUSSIONS as the place to ask questions about their Avatar, Land or Technical matters? I can only hazard a guess that such naive and annoying behaviour is inspired by the perception that GD is by far the most busy forum, which might mean a speedy response. Well, I shall continue to give speedy responses to such unthinking and self-misguided interlopers, pointing out that GD is for the expression of opinions (although not necessarily accurate, coherent or friendly ones) and the interactive exchange of viewpoints on issues which may have no deterministic resolution, particularly given the spectrum of (non)emotional and political attitudes which forumites possess. Do YOU think I am being unreasonable in asking that the forums should be used in an effective manner?