Ineffable Mote

I know the thread title says Engagement, but the suggestions mostly come across as disengagement, and really isn't what SL needs.

Glancing at an etymology dictionary, the word does seem to fit much of the thread quite well

Apologies in advance to whomever if this has been suggested already, but I think mirroring a half dozen Blake Sea sims and attaching them to the old teen grid regions to make those more sailable would be a tad more reasonable. Better natured people who use child avs are creative enough to adapt and adjust to new TOS, either way, but it could make a good trade off for any/all inconveniences that come out of this. Nearly all boats on the market have adult furniture/poses in them, and it's been that way for at least a decade now, so turning Blake to General ratings itself would seem a pretty hard no. editing to add: The old teen grid regions could probably be moved to other connected General rated open water sims, as well, maybe that's a better option. Part of me says why bother, but otoh I'm old enough remember that Blake Sea came about as a result of LL policy changes too so there is precedence, however ancient it seems now. And wouldn't seem unfair. Private regions could step up and collaborate too, perhaps. Just some thoughts.

Moderate regions would seem safe-ish imo, as long as people running child avis stay aware of their surroundings, don't afk, and are quick to change/leave. LL could have gone the lazy/no effort route and limited child avis to General, but that seems unfair too. The way the new TOS is written makes it a manageable balance.

Nobody likes to read, and I realize comprehension isn't everyone's strong point, but otoh people love to conveniently play dumb, too. Given this thread being what it is, it's hard to give benefit of the doubt.

If the person running the child avi chooses to stay then it's no longer accidental and they know what they're doing.

Verifying ID at the gate like this might cut back on a lot of the problematic/exploitative/illegal content in SL, even if actual age isn't the all important thing here. A good Governance team shouldn't be the only mechanism LL has at their disposal, certainly.

I don't suppose there are mobile options for this (I don't use them myself or keep up, just curious)

Bad faith begets bad faith, and not much else.

I wouldn't expect there to be a lot of virtual photos of cartoony looking virtual kids to be included in the data set, for whatever AI 'training". Even with everything skimmed off of Flickr.

I'd presume keywords/marketing and content in the club would still matter, to some degree.

Nearing 49 pages in and I still think these changes will be a heck of a lot less disruptive than the introduction of adult regions and the move to Zindra, way back then.

I'll just say here that many people tend to react far more often than they respond, and that there can be a whole world of differences between the two. With reactions especially, people tend to stay caught up in cycles. Tandems aren't all that common but unicycles would seem far more rare, they're all somewhat different machineries.

Nearly anyone who's been here long enough has had to replace wardrobes over the years, often at no small cost. From system layer to mesh, to mesh bodies. People adjust and adapt, it's just part of the deal.

With the modesty layer, LL really should set out a minimal area of needed coverings for it (like with black bars) for full clarity (and make it public). Asking the userbase to define modesty in SL, and relying on that, sounds a bit nightmarish and status quo.

It all just comes across as avoidance here. It is what it is, in any case.

Happiness and feel goods are their own form of suffering, I have heard it said. (I was half-tempted to point out Ephesians 6:12 earlier as being decent words to love by, live by also, that was a typo, but translations tend to matter on such things plus I'm a bit weary of spiritual bypassings too but those are different cans of worms that maybe don't need opening here, on topic or not)

For some reason I'm reminded that Tristan Tzara pulling cut up words out of a hat once started a riot, supposedly wrecked the theater too. source: https://www.writing.upenn.edu/~afilreis/88v/burroughs-cutup.html (I suspect the topic was somewhat about SL being a game and that this is such a well-kept secret, as well..could have gone any number of multiple directions, to be fair) (or maybe it's a collection of games within games, like all else, even the rules we go by)

I mean whoever's filming(running the screen capture software), I presume it isn't Strawberry or Oberwulf. Lab Gabs are a regular thing and I presume they have a bare bones team with some framework for producing informational/marketing materials, even on relatively short notice. Doesn't need large amounts of action or drama, where it's just basic corporate PR. Little efforts are needed but they don't need to be made Herculean either, maybe that was more my point.

One person recording would seem more ideal, and they can run multiple avis better than most of their customers can. With a good camera hud, you probably wouldn't really need multiple avis either.

This is 13 years old and I don't keep up with VR but I'm under impression something like this would work with that now too, and would be well worth the investment either way, even if it's just inhouse

I thought he meant resting on past laurels

As an informational/promotional offering(not necessarily an advertisement) it should be trivially easy to offer both..it just requires a bit of editing on the audio.

a half hour discussion over a game of chess or backgammon would probably suffice, with or without watchful cats

I don't mind boring, it has its place, from here it just needs more effort. Somehow or another.