Where Do We Stand?

[KMJP Enyo]

I have a question witch i find need to be thought about.

 

Where do we stand as a purchaser on secondlife?

As opposed to the seller

For example:
If you purchase a product if it is transferable you are most likely to get a refund for any defects or issues with the product.
What if the product as marked on marketplace was listed under the Copy & Transfer filter because thats the product type you wanted for any specific reason, but upon delivery from market place after being opened and the contents was only copy.

This to me is the sellers fault and there for must take responsibility due to missleading product, but where do you draw the line between them where they stand and where we stand as buyers. Because its copyable there less likely to give you your money back and because you can not give them the product back you have been misslead into purchaseing the product, maybe not onpurpose.

Should not the designer or selling user then provide you with what he has promised or stated upon the market place description. I mean people purchase lindens with real life money, and in real life if you go to a store where im from if a product is listed under the wrong price tag the store has to sell you it at that price weather it be more or be less.
So in this area should not that apply to a market place selling product in all formats aswell with what its listed under?

 

It comes across to me threw out secondlife its the purchasers that get stiffed most of the time in a purchase that was not listed under the correct categorys, Described correctly, listed with the correct permissions, and if there is any problems with the product weather it be copy or not loose out on lindens due to somthing that was not there fault.

Where do we both stand as a seller or a buyer?

I just havent got my head around this yet and responces

KMJP Enyo



[Poenald Palen]

Perms can be detected by script or by the LL servers. The servers will be accessing a folder in inventory when they bring about direct delivery, so things will be changing. You might get yoru voice heard via Jira, in world meetings/office hours, and maybe even here on the forums when you see a post about direct delivery. It is in Beta now and I don't know if they added this. But, yeah...prim count is prim count and no need to not automate this bit. The purchaser can describe more if they wish to, so no losses here, right?

They can detect the stats on the object with script, but not what is inside each deliverable box! So, they require us to put this in manaully. Now, when they make the folder they will NOT be using LSL, it will be all server side! This means they have much more detial and access. Perms and prim count as well as ALL objects in the box might be autmaticaly listed in the product profile. But, technically a seller could change it and running a check each time might hurt server performance....so I amnto sure how much protection this will cause. But, it should remove user error and also deter any casual cheaters...maybe lol.

[PeterCanessa Oh]

1. LL does not involve itself in inter-resident disputes, so as far as they're concerned no-one has any rights, unless the complaint is that the system broke down.  That means you can complain about non-delivery, for instance, but not delivery of objects that are wildly different from their description, such as just a plywood cube.  In a case as blatant as that, however, you should AR the seller.
2. Your RL legal rights are unaffected.  Check out Californian law (which goverms LL and, so, SL), check out any local law that may also apply, check out your local lawyers.  Pick a jurisdiction and start a legal action if you think it's worth it.

[Perrie Juran]

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PeterCanessa Oh wrote:

1. LL does not involve itself in inter-resident disputes, so as far as they're concerned no-one has any rights, unless the complaint is that the system broke down.  That means you can complain about non-delivery, for instance, but not delivery of objects that are wildly different from their description, such as just a plywood cube.  In a case as blatant as that, however, you should AR the seller.
2. Your RL legal rights are unaffected.  Check out Californian law (which goverms LL and, so, SL), check out any local law that may also apply, check out your local lawyers.  Pick a jurisdiction and start a legal action if you think it's worth it.

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But Linden Lab will get involved in investigating Fraud, and if a vendor constantly mislabels their content action could conceivably be taken against them.