Face tattoo with facial hair - Help

[conilmionome]

Hello everyone, i don't know if i'm wrong something

It's impossible to match them correctly. In practice i can fully view my face tattoo ( face/neck ) only if the facial hair is not worn. If i try to have them both together, the tattoo is ruined, only some parts of it are seen and for example a writing is halved and goes over the eyebrow.  I use omega, where i select lower layers for hairbase and beard

 

[Maitimo]

Which head do you have?

[conilmionome]

i have catwa victor

[Skell Dagger]

Catwa Bento heads (of which Victor is one) have two layers. As the name suggests, these allow you to layer two different appliers, but you need to save one of those items to the Catwa Master HUD in order to do that layering.

1. Clear face of both tattoo and facial hair
2. Apply the facial hair. It will default to the lower layer of your head
3. One at a time, clear the following sections using the Master HUD: blush, lipstick, neck tattoo, hairbase. (Ensure that the LOWER button is checked when you do this.) Note down which ones the facial hair appears to be on (in other words: if a piece of it vanishes when you clear that section)
4. Re-apply the facial hair
5. Again in the Master HUD - and with the LOWER button still checked at the top of each, save the facial hair to the sections that you noted down
6. Clear your face again
7. Apply the tattoo. It will default to the lower layer of your head
8. Go back to the Master HUD, and this time check the UPPER button on each section where you saved the facial hair. Apply the facial hair directly from the Master HUD. Because you now have the UPPER button checked, the applier will go directly onto the upper section of the head, layering over the top of the face tattoo

This image shows you - using the old Master HUD - how to do this. The demonstration is with eyeshadow and eyeliner, but you go through exactly the same steps (just in different sections of the HUD) for anything else that you want to layer. I need to re-make that tutorial using the new v4.5 HUD, but the principle is the same, regardless.

I am sure that someone will probably come along shortly and tell you that Bakes on Mesh is the solution to all your layering problems (and indeed it is a great solution), but the above is how to layer if you only have appliers and your facial hair and tattoo don't come with system/BoM layers. (With BoM you would also need a good quality system-style, Catwa-mapped BoM skin, so it gets a little more expensive if you go down that route and don't yet have all the BoM items that you need.)

[conilmionome]

1 hour ago, Skell Dagger said:

Catwa Bento heads (of which Victor is one) have two layers. As the name suggests, these allow you to layer two different appliers, but you need to save one of those items to the Catwa Master HUD in order to do that layering.

1. Clear face of both tattoo and facial hair
2. Apply the facial hair. It will default to the lower layer of your head
3. One at a time, clear the following sections using the Master HUD: blush, lipstick, neck tattoo, hairbase. (Ensure that the LOWER button is checked when you do this.) Note down which ones the facial hair appears to be on (in other words: if a piece of it vanishes when you clear that section)
4. Re-apply the facial hair
5. Again in the Master HUD - and with the LOWER button still checked at the top of each, save the facial hair to the sections that you noted down
6. Clear your face again
7. Apply the tattoo. It will default to the lower layer of your head
8. Go back to the Master HUD, and this time check the UPPER button on each section where you saved the facial hair. Apply the facial hair directly from the Master HUD. Because you now have the UPPER button checked, the applier will go directly onto the upper section of the head, layering over the top of the face tattoo

This image shows you - using the old Master HUD - how to do this. The demonstration is with eyeshadow and eyeliner, but you go through exactly the same steps (just in different sections of the HUD) for anything else that you want to layer. I need to re-make that tutorial using the new v4.5 HUD, but the principle is the same, regardless.

I am sure that someone will probably come along shortly and tell you that Bakes on Mesh is the solution to all your layering problems (and indeed it is a great solution), but the above is how to layer if you only have appliers and your facial hair and tattoo don't come with system/BoM layers. (With BoM you would also need a good quality system-style, Catwa-mapped BoM skin, so it gets a little more expensive if you go down that route and don't yet have all the BoM items that you need.)

Thank you Skell, two things:

- i didn't understand how to "save facial hair" and exactly in which section... 

- what do u mean with " apply the facial hair directly from the HUD "

 

[Skell Dagger]

Please look at the image that I linked to. That shows you exactly where to click on the Master HUD.

[conilmionome]

ok, i am sure i did everything right, but 

i can visualize everything correctly, but there is a missing part...the piece that combinese hairbase with facial hair. this is visibile only if i follow the steps indicated without hairbases applicated. you said that catwa head has only two laters...so there aren't enough layers for everything? 

 

sorry for the confusion skell

 

[Skell Dagger]

Catwa heads are the only ones with two layers. Every other mesh head only has one, so you'd be even more stuck with another brand

You can only layer two items on a single area of the head, not three, so if all three items (hairbase, facial hair, and face tattoo) want to use the same area then that simply isn't possible, and in that case I would definitely urge you to consider the Bakes on Mesh option.

From what you're saying, it sounds as though your hairbase has sideburns that touch on the blush area, and both your facial hair and your face tattoo need the blush layer as well. Is that correct? If so, then no, you cannot layer all of those in any way - on any brand of mesh head - using appliers alone.

The Bakes on Mesh option will depend on which skin you're wearing. If there is a BoM update for it, then pick that up and look to see if any of the three items you want to layer (hairbase, freckles, or facial hair) come with a BoM or system tattoo option. If they do then you can get the look that you want, with a combination of BoM and appliers.

Let me know if that's the case, and I'll walk you through doing that.

 

Edited March 26, 2020 by Skell Dagger

[conilmionome]

33 minutes ago, Skell Dagger said:

Catwa heads are the only ones with two layers. Every other mesh head only has one, so you'd be even more stuck with another brand

You can only layer two items on a single area of the head, not three, so if all three items (hairbase, facial hair, and face tattoo) want to use the same area then that simply isn't possible, and in that case I would definitely urge you to consider the Bakes on Mesh option.

From what you're saying, it sounds as though your hairbase has sideburns that touch on the blush area, and both your facial hair and your face tattoo need the blush layer as well. Is that correct? If so, then no, you cannot layer all of those in any way - on any brand of mesh head - using appliers alone.

The Bakes on Mesh option will depend on which skin you're wearing. If there is a BoM update for it, then pick that up and look to see if any of the three items you want to layer (hairbase, freckles, or facial hair) come with a BoM or system tattoo option. If they do then you can get the look that you want, with a combination of BoM and appliers.

Let me know if that's the case, and I'll walk you through doing that.

 

thank you very much, yes it's how u explain, indeed i'm thinking about bom

btw, i wear not found skin and body applier, it should be compatible with bom.

a body tattoo, has layer and applier, i hadn't issues with it

facial hair has only applier

the face tattoo of this thread, it has only applier

and hairbase comes with layer and applier too

Edited March 26, 2020 by conilmionome

[Skell Dagger]

1. If your Not Found skin has either a system option or tattoo options, then add that first of all
2. Check that your Victor head is v4.5. If it's not go to the Catwa store and click the redelivery terminal at the landing point. Redeliver your original purchase, unpack it, and the v4.5 update will be inside. Take off any old version of the head and HUD and wear the new versions
3. Take off ALL alpha layers that you're wearing. Yes, you'll look a bit strange at first, but keep going...
4. Go into the v4.5 Catwa Master HUD, the tab at the very bottom (Skins/Ears) and click the BOM button in the top right (it looks like this)
5. Go into your Signature body's HUD > Settings tab (the 'cog' icon) and click 'BoM - Bakes on Mesh' (image here)
6. Your Not Found BoM skin should now be showing on both your Catwa head and your Signature body
7. Add the tattoo layer hairbase. Your avatar will turn grey for a few seconds while the layer 'bakes' onto your head. Make sure to ADD and not WEAR that tattoo, especially if your Not Found BoM skin comprises tattoo layers as well
8. Lastly,  make sure you're wearing the Catwa Master HUD that you saved the facial hair onto, and follow the steps that I gave previously to layer the facial hair and the tattoo: apply the tattoo first (it will go onto the lower layer of the head) and then check the UPPER box on the Master HUD for each area that you saved the facial hair to (blush, lips, hairbase) and apply directly from the Master HUD

You will find that your system eyes will now also be 'baked' onto your Catwa mesh eyes. If you want to continue using eye appliers look in your v4.5 Victor folder for something called 'CATWA ALPHA Pack [Use for BOM]'. Wear that to unpack it, and ADD the 'CATWA ALPHA EYES'. Your eyes will turn red, but that's fine. Just find your eye appliers and re-apply them and you're good to go.

If you need any more help, just holler

[conilmionome]

18 hours ago, Skell Dagger said:

1. If your Not Found skin has either a system option or tattoo options, then add that first of all
2. Check that your Victor head is v4.5. If it's not go to the Catwa store and click the redelivery terminal at the landing point. Redeliver your original purchase, unpack it, and the v4.5 update will be inside. Take off any old version of the head and HUD and wear the new versions
3. Take off ALL alpha layers that you're wearing. Yes, you'll look a bit strange at first, but keep going...
4. Go into the v4.5 Catwa Master HUD, the tab at the very bottom (Skins/Ears) and click the BOM button in the top right (it looks like this)
5. Go into your Signature body's HUD > Settings tab (the 'cog' icon) and click 'BoM - Bakes on Mesh' (image here)
6. Your Not Found BoM skin should now be showing on both your Catwa head and your Signature body
7. Add the tattoo layer hairbase. Your avatar will turn grey for a few seconds while the layer 'bakes' onto your head. Make sure to ADD and not WEAR that tattoo, especially if your Not Found BoM skin comprises tattoo layers as well
8. Lastly,  make sure you're wearing the Catwa Master HUD that you saved the facial hair onto, and follow the steps that I gave previously to layer the facial hair and the tattoo: apply the tattoo first (it will go onto the lower layer of the head) and then check the UPPER box on the Master HUD for each area that you saved the facial hair to (blush, lips, hairbase) and apply directly from the Master HUD

You will find that your system eyes will now also be 'baked' onto your Catwa mesh eyes. If you want to continue using eye appliers look in your v4.5 Victor folder for something called 'CATWA ALPHA Pack [Use for BOM]'. Wear that to unpack it, and ADD the 'CATWA ALPHA EYES'. Your eyes will turn red, but that's fine. Just find your eye appliers and re-apply them and you're good to go.

If you need any more help, just holler

Ok! I only had a doubt about the first step. Basically i just had to add my skin as a layer and not applier from the beginning? My skin seems have only applier btw.

 

However i made an attempt, but i had the classic red avi problem. I had a single alpha active ( Catwa Full Avatasr ) and i had removed it at the beginning of the procedure, later i found the box of Catwa Victor for BoM and used it. I did each step but nothing, it doesn't seem to work and i see red.

 

I use a legacy body and not signature anyway, but i found the button in the body menu and i think i did it correctly... i don't know!

 

Edited March 27, 2020 by conilmionome

[conilmionome]

ok, i didn't have the redelivery for my body applier. now i have and it works with bom.

but for the skin...in the box of mine there's only applier, not tattoo layer.

at the mainstore of not found i see that only few skins are bom compatible...mine seems not🙃

Edited March 27, 2020 by conilmionome