ChinRey Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Here's one for the veteran prim twisters!Is there any kind of documentation abut the 14 "hacked" prim shapes and did anybody ever find any use for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wherorangi Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 can have a look here for some prim tortures that are pretty useful http://ayumicassini.blogspot.co.nz/2009/07/ultimate-guide-to-prim-twisting.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinRey Posted September 24, 2016 Author Share Posted September 24, 2016 Thank you wherorangi but I'm not talking about tortured standard prims but alternative basic shapes. See if you can find the prim in my pciture in any prim torute guide. Yes, that is a single prim! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wherorangi Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 am not sure what you mean by hacked prims are you meaning prims that can be made now and are undocumented ? or are you meaning prims that used to able to be made back in the day when sometimes the servers wouldnt check the params properly ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinRey Posted September 24, 2016 Author Share Posted September 24, 2016 wherorangi wrote: are you meaning prims that can be made now and are undocumented ? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wherorangi Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 ooo! i will have a play with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinRey Posted September 24, 2016 Author Share Posted September 24, 2016 wherorangi wrote: ooo! i will have a play with that Yes it's fun. And something that allows you to make this from a single prim and a library texture, can't be completely useless either: Really wish I knew a bit more about it though. It's all trial and error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikka Luik Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Seen these in various viewers over the years and never been sure anyone else would see them, And had Ayumis blog bits on standby book mark for yonks =^^= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callum Meriman Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 ChinRey wrote: If you take that to a sandbox and apply materials what's it's LI? :matte-motes-evil-invert: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wherorangi Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 i am not really understanding this like in the standard LL viewer then when try to set the PRIM_TYPE to anything other than 0..7 (the standards) then just get the unknown rule error can you give me a hint about what values work for PRIM_TYPE other than 0..7 please ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinRey Posted September 24, 2016 Author Share Posted September 24, 2016 Callum Meriman wrote: If you take that to a sandbox and apply materials what's it's LI? :matte-motes-evil-invert: In the same ballpark as a twisted torus. If I remember correctly, that one was about 200 with prim physics shape. But only 1.1 as convex hull and I don't think a detailed physics shape would make much sense for it anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinRey Posted September 24, 2016 Author Share Posted September 24, 2016 wherorangi wrote: i am not really understanding this ... can you give me a hint about what values work for PRIM_TYPE other than 0..7 please ? You can't set them with scripts. They are a little bit like megaprims in that they are hacks never approved by Linden Lab. LL never blocked them though so you can still create them with third party viewers. Firestorm has 14 different alternative prim shapes. Singularity has some of them but I don't think it has all of them. You can view the shapes in any viewer but the moment you try to change the tortue in the SL viewer, the prim snaps to one of the official shapes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikka Luik Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Now I am tempted to resurrect a few viewers from the past to see what they could produce. Wondering if they would survive an xml/oxp transfer too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinRey Posted September 24, 2016 Author Share Posted September 24, 2016 mikka Luik wrote: Now I am tempted to resurrect a few viewers from the past to see what they could produce. No need to look back to older viewers for that. These prim shapes are still available in Firestorm, they're listed in the prim shape menu below sculpts: The "Circle2->" prims are really crazy looking (the first picture I posted here was a twisted version of one of them), the others look more or less like regular prims to start with but with very different torturing options. Most of the time you end up with lots of problems with flickering from overlapping tris and normals facing the wrong way but not always and you can get those problems with heavily tortured regular prims too. The plate I showed a picture of for example. You can make something very similar shape with a regular prim of course but there'll always be some kind of distortion at the center. With an alternative prim, you can adjust the shape around the center very precisely. Alternative prims can provide a wide variety of twisted ribbon shapes, here's a random example: And how about this little trio - these look like shapes somebody could use: These two look like perfectly ordinary prims at first glance. But try to get a perfectly even triangular or sloping square hollow in a regular half-cylinder. I have to admit I'm quite surprised if nobody here is familiar with these prims. I heard quite a lot about them when I started as a builder and I thought this was all old news for veteran builders. Edit: Disclaimer: No prims were harmed during these demonstrations. Prims are incredibly flexible and quick to adapt to any new shape they are given. As long as they are properly sedated during the actual operation, they suffer no significant trauma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wherorangi Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 ah! ok i have never used a TPV to build with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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