Dillon Levenque
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Scylla Rhiadra wrote:Who knew Jim Morrison was so clever?
Me.
The fact that there is little agreement in detail on such things as sex and violence isn't a reason to ignore the views of everyone whodoeshave a view on them: it's a more pressing reason to accommodate those different perspectives as best we can. There are lots of ways to do that, of which a ratings system is but one -- but it's an important one, because it is backed by the threat of sanctions.
I have a lot of respect for you, but on this subject I am in complete disagreement. I do like the idea of a 'PG Place' in SL. I personally enjoy being in a PG environment, most of the time. I like it when I have to watch what I say and do; it makes it feel a bit more like RL. But I just cannot accept that certain non-PG activities should be segregated from others. I simply do not buy into the argument that someone stumbling into a sim that celebrates an activity that particular someone finds horrific or terrible or disgusting is in any way a big deal. Going away is so easy. Can you be TP'd to someplace that invokes memories of something horrible that happened to you in your real life? Yes, I suppose so. But you can also TP out. And you should only have that happen once before you stop being stupid enough to accept tp's from people you don't know and trust.
I think rating adult behavior HERE is a bad idea. Nobody is ignoring anyone's views. If something offends you, avoid it. There was a dance club in the sim next to the one I live in that was so incredibly racist it made me want to throw up. It wasn't close enough to intrude on my space and as far as I know it's long gone—I only happened to see it while exploring the neighborhood to see what was new. But even had it been next door I'd have lived with it. I'd have given it all the crap it could handle and banned anyone who belonged or showed up, but I'd have lived with it. That's what this place is about.
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DQ Darwin wrote:I saw Lillie, was there something else in that picture???
ETA: Looks around for falling rocks:)
Teehee
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Hippie Bowman wrote:HI everyone! Many of you know of a poster, here in the old GD and Forums namedUnklebob! I always enjoyed his posts, and humor. Where are you Uncle Bob!? Are you lurking? Give us a sign! Would love to here from you!Peace!
Hippie, I remember Unklebob posting that he was getting damned tired of having his threads AR'd for not being SL related and his thread postings really dropped off after that, at least in the GD. You're right, he was always funny if not hysterically funny as well as being a very friendly and nice poster. He came up with some of the funniest pics ever. I actually copied the "Baywatch Canada" picture and still have it.
He really should come back, the Forums are a better place now, and we even have a GD!
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Keli Kyrie wrote:So I guess I am not a very good friend:
But she is so evil:
Never leave your Avi when you go AFK:
But I still need a scirpt that will work. The story continues....
Keli, Keli, Keli. Don't you see? The whole concept is doomed. Cone of Shame can only work on someone who can feel shame. Your quarry is shameless. It's well known.
ETA You're lucky Lillie's out of town, she'd smack you for including her in her nightie in that pic :smileywink:
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Sylvia Tamalyn wrote:M get embarrassed? Have you already forgotten the twirling tassels?? :smileysurprised:
I will never forget the twirly tassels.:smileyvery-happy:
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Venus Petrov wrote:Keli: Going back to your OP. I have to wonder about those that are standing around watching. What is up with them? No one stepped in to help the victim?
Of course we did! We all pounced on the perp and tickled her senseless. In the melee nobody thought to take a picture.
I can't believe I hadn't seen this thread until now!
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Some friends and I were actually thinking of doing that; I went dancing in roller skates (in fact that's where the pic on my badge came from) and everyone was trying to come up with cool names. I can see from yours that we were on the right track (intended). They picked 'Dil Lerious' for me. :smileyvery-happy:
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DQ Darwin wrote:Happy Bastille Day to all Wooot
@Val: I know but it was a great game.@Lia: Canada didn't get by the first round
@Dillon: Nice clip, great movie, it's funny how some things stick with us yours made me think of this
Wow, Dee. Very evocative. I think I have that outfit in my Inventory ;-)
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Hi everybody! I was hoping to be the first to mention it but you guys just get up too early. Since I noticed that Val had wished all us Amis a happy Independence Day I wanted to wish her a Happy Bastille Day. For some reason the forum is fighting me and won't accept my perfectly good youtube link. Maybe I can just paste it.
It's one of my favorite scenes from one of my favorite movies. If the b-girl with the tears in her eyes doesn't get to you a little you probably cannot be gotten to ;-).
Vive la France!
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Sylvia Tamalyn wrote:P.S. You and Dillon are such vultures!! First boots, now swords?? Have you no shame?
Objection, your Honor. That question has been asked and answered.
For those of you keeping score at home, the answer was "None whatever."
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Scylla Rhiadra wrote:Well, it goes without saying that the violence isn't "real," Dillon. I don't think people want to avoid representations of violence (please note the qualifier "representations") because they think "OMG SOMEONE IS BEING HURT!" They want to avoid them because the imagery is disturbing or upsetting.Use the analogy of a slasher flick. We all "know" that the blood and gore aren't real, but that doesn't prevent people from being horrified, frightened, disgusted, etc. It signifies something that is upsetting, and what we feel from it is a sort of version of that same emotion, even though, again, we are aware that it is an illusion. If such imagerydidn'taffect us, we wouldn't bother going to slasher flicks at all -- or engaging in violent role play. For some, the visceral emotional response is part of the turn on, and for some, it is merely upsetting. It's the imagery that does this: it has nothing to do with whether it is "real" or not.And, again, I'll ask, because I'm still not getting an answer:what is wrong with offering peoplechoice?Of lettingthemdecide what kind of environment they want to be in, and what sorts of imagery or behaviour they want to be exposed to?Why are we so anxious to impose ourownattitudes on others? It's all very well to say "You shouldn't be upset by this; I'm not!" Butthey are.Who are we to tell them they are wrong, and to insist that they be exposed to this stuff if they don't want to be?As for how easy it is to avoid stuff in SL . . . well, yes, it is generally pretty easy now,because of the classification system. In the "old days," when "mature" covered a very wide range of things, that really wasn't the case. Some sims, mostly those that specialized in hardcore sexual violence like the Crack Den, had notecards and warnings at their TP hubs, but in the vast majority of cases, just wandering through a mainland mature sim made it quite likely you'd find something violent or explicitly sexual -- without any warning at all. If things are better now, it'sbecauseof the classification system.
Okay. We have no argument on the question of whether what anyone likes or dislikes is any of our damn business. For me that only matters if they start telling me about it in a way that indicates I should change what I'm doing to accomodate them.
As for avoiding places you don't want to see; I've not been here as long as you have but I was here before Zindra. I ran across places I wished I hadn't but it didn't really bother me. Doesn't bother me now and it does still happen. I just keep going or leave. I do like the idea of having a place where that can't happen, for those who want to enjoy all of what SL can be without ever have to worry about seeing things they don't like. I just don't see any reason to spend time regulating what can or can not be done everywhere else.
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Innula Zenovka wrote:Dillon Levenque wrote:I was wondering about that and still am. I looked at a piece of land for sale in a G (as in PG) sim and having read the current ratings wasn't sure. Did that mean I couldn't have a sexbed in myhouse? The owner never answered probably because he or she didn't know either. It says one can not be 'located' without any further descpription.
What's not to understand about "sex beds may not be located in G-rated regions"? If your house is located in a G-rated region then it has to follow that anything inside the house is located there, too, doesn't it?It does follow that if I had a house in a G location, "anything inside the house is located there, too.". It just seemed so massively stupid to include objects in private residences within that clause that I questioned it. I've still not heard a definitive answer.
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Scylla Rhiadra wrote:So, assuming that happened . . . would you then take issue with those who get turned off by violence? Is it equally "silly" to be nauseated or disturbed by animations depicting gutting, garroting, throat-slitting, or rape? Should we all just take a deep breath and realize that these too are just part of the "human experience"?
I realize you weren't talking to me but that's never stopped me before.
For one thing, nobody really gets physically injured here, anymore than anyone gets physically inseminated. Garroting and throat-slitting in SL are not all that far removed from children saying, "Bang! You're dead!". I know, we're not talking about children. I also know there are probably some who get some kind of thrill from that behavior. But in fact there is no physical harm. Children at play know, and I do mean KNOW, that the kid they are talking to isn't really dead. I believe the same is true of residents of SL.
I do not think equating sexual or combative behaviors in Second Life with Real Life is a valid argument. Avoiding places and people that do things you don't like is much easier in SL than in RL. Person to person relationships, for me at least, are a different story. Hurtful behavior of any kind, the same.
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Deltango Vale wrote:We all agree to respect other people's religion and politics, but mention sexuality and all hell breaks loose as if it were a serious topic for 'community control'. We wouldn't dream of partitioning SL based on race, religion, politics or gender, yet here we are, partitioning SL based on sexual preferences.Personally, I would eliminate all the maturity levels, but I am quite willing to have a PG/Disney continent for those who want the seclusion and conformity of a zero-sexuality environment. I offer the analogy of a lighting dimmer switch: 'off' or a wide range of 'on'. In my opinion a PG/Disney continent would represent the 'sexuality off' setting; the rest of SL would represent the wide range of 'sexuality on'.Perhaps more importantly, people need to get a passport and see the world. I realize SL caters specifically to those who can't easily travel, but at least read books about the world, discover the huge differences in national customs and social norms, learn about human sensuality in different cultures and sub-cultures, go to some clubs! The world is a marvelous place, rich in diversity. That people come to SL from all over the world makes it imperative we avoid narrow thinking and crude sexual stereotypes. If SL is to survive, we must stop being dogmatic about personal tastes and preferences.
Deltango, I will argue with you a little about some of this. You and I have talked here and elsewhere about how SL's tolerance has made being here such a wonderful experience for me personally. I don't get anything from the 'Rating' rules that defines sexuality or even discusses same. The rules are, as I understand it, merely in place to describe the behavior permitted in certain places. Granted, that can lead to absurdities such as ones mentioned earlier in which galleries were reported for showing pictures of unclothed humans. I would hope that doesn't happen often and when it does is quickly corrected. But even that has to do with behavior or at least graphical representation. It has nothing to do with sexuality. I purely love that I can go anywhere and carry on a conversation with anyone here without my particular sexual preferences being relevant to the discussion.
I still disagree with anything that prohibits any behavior done in private, even given the fact that privacy in Second Life doesn't really exist. If something is happening behind walls it's private, SL or RL. The fact that someone can 'cam' through the wall and watch is the problem of that someone. This of course assumes that the wall doesn't have a big sign reading "Hot All Nude Sexshow Inside!".
I do agree that there should be only two ratings. PG or Not PG. That should be enough. I can understand not being pleased at discovering that a brothel is opening next door to your lovely cottage. I'd not dig that myself (although when a Ladies Only dance club was being built across the way I must admit I looked forward to rounding up strays). But stuff like that is pretty easily controlled by picking your spots. Live on an estate with a covenant. Rent. The Mainland should be open.
Your last paragraph I agree with completely. Learn. Grow.
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Marigold Devin wrote:
... to be continued?
I know you guys have a lot on your minds right now, but if it's not too much trouble? When it's all sorted out? Could I have the sword?
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Ceka Cianci wrote:actually blondin was speaking with residents..but it was residents that were merchants..these are the ones directly affected by the changes and ratings.in other words private residents and their private homes don't fall under the ratings defenitions.nothing has changed from what it was before for private residents..we could never be nude or have sex on General lands..it's always been disney..it's not speaking about private residents and things they do in their private homes..because private residents don't advertise..
I was wondering about that and still am. I looked at a piece of land for sale in a G (as in PG) sim and having read the current ratings wasn't sure. Did that mean I couldn't have a sexbed in my house? The owner never answered probably because he or she didn't know either. It says one can not be 'located' without any further descpription.
A typical (if there is such a thing) American residential area in RL is pretty much PG. Anything out of line would draw fire from somebody. But I am almost positive that behind closed doors sexual intercourse takes place in those areas. I do realize that 'camming' in SL is a lot easier and less expensive than doing so in RL, but it seems to me that a person should be allowed some discretion in his or her private residence no matter where it's located. I even read a quote from a Linden on one of the wiki's saying in essence that 'we won't be looking at what people are doing in their houses'. Is that official?
I'd like to see those definitions 'unfuzzed' at least to that degree.
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Stella, I don't have any suggestions (but it looks like several other people had good ideas). I was just writing to say what a giggle I got out of your signature! It looks as if it might have been written for a certain friend Sylvia and I have in common. I've copied it to show her later.
/me waves to Sylvia
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Charolotte Caxton wrote:Cube proliferation continues.
Wow.
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Pussycat Catnap wrote:Third useful tip. If your land is rectangular, chances are there there is a megaprim out there of its exact size. For most 512 lots that is 16x32. For most 1024 lots that is 32x32. Go to megaprim.sl and get the right sized megaprim. Rez it at ground - make sure its the exact location of your lot (turn on view property lines to be sure, and edit it to a whole number value on x and y). Now move it to your skybox and check to see that you can move it up and down the skybox and your skybox never goes outside of it. FINALLY - move it to some hidden height nobody else anywhere near you uses. Landmark that location. That's your new secret build platform, and also prim to check anything you rez in future to make sure its inside your land.
Thank you, that is a GREAT idea. When I was doing that I made posts at all four corners of my plot and then moved the array to my Z, but having an actual platform would be way easier.
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Ola!, Helena. I'm Dillon in California.
@Monti—I love that Ting Tings song; that girl's attitude just makes me smile.
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Jarrod1 wrote:Hey everyone!I just wanted to write up a little note on friendships/meeting people, especially for new people. Now I am still fairly new myself and the one thing I love about SL is the many different types of people you can meet here. There are people from all walks of life here and backgrounds and I believe that's what makes Second Life so great. You never know who you will meet or see.I truly believe for every one person that is not friendly there are ten others that will be. One key thing to remember, everyone as I said before is different and have different tastes, so I also urge don't be judgemental, life is too short for that. I have really enjoyed SL and continue to do so and remember HAVE FUN most of all that's what its all about. Get out there say hi start conversations and I guarantee it will lead to better and bigger things. Afterall that person you say "Hi" to may just end up being a friend for life!Thanks have a great day! :matte-motes-sunglasses-2:
:-D. Very nice post. That's exactly how I approached SL and it has been and continues to be a wonderful experience for me. I see you're just starting your third month so if you're at all like I was at that 'age' you've gotten a pretty good handle on the basics and can really start getting into things in a big way.
Have fun. And 'Hi', by the way. :smileyhappy:
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Void Singer wrote:so disappointing, I never get these.... I missed out on the last two rounds... I must be unloved
I did not get one either. It's a hollow feeling, isn't it?
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I now think I see the path of redemption. Ms. Kyrie's selfless devotion to the cause has opened my eyes. I visit the gift shop outside the shrine and purchase a St. Brokoli tee, pull on my Bax boots, and return to the shrine. Tragically I have not as yet been blessed with the gift of Prims so I lack the beauty of Ms. Kyrie's skirt; I had to make do with whatever I could find in the closet.
I can only hope the hallowed one will appreciate my devotion and allow me to join her flock. Or maybe that she will persuade Keli to part with her boots; I only have them in black.
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Dresden Ceriano wrote:Will this one do?
...Dres
Yes! Thanks, Dres
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