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    Nelson Linden

    Posted

    Edward,  "GTFO" Now that is  exactly what LL should avoid .. who do you think are paying for Sl in the first place? Ummm  coult it be the customers? Nooo cant be, that would make way to much sense wouldnt it?

    As someone said, fun time is over, we are getting the F out. I dont mind some good behind action  but  I really prefer to  have some lube to  go wih it.

    So yes enjoy the empty regions in SL, oh yes and the teens .. not only from the TG but from all over since LL now opend up for all teens to join. Ah bliss.

    Dont get me wrong. I want SL / LL  to survive I dont wanna see my virtual birthplace  go under (besides Im still attached to my inventory ) So as long as they can stay open  Im gonna be happy. Growth? no way  and havent see growth  in  years now. That ended  mid 2008 to mid 2009.

    Sincerly

    Former LL supporter

     

    Re the stats. Dont you at LL, think  this is getting a tad old? The new CEO   should;

    1. Emerge himslef in the  USER experience of a REAL  virtual world (not the barbie and ken  world he comes from)

    2. Take  his behind out on other grids  look, talk, engage with the users out there. LISTEN to  what they  feel the grid(s) they are on are doing that appeals to them

    3. THINK Think THINK!!

    Like that is evah gonna happen LOL

    Rodvik Linden

    Posted

    ops got an  error ..  lets try again shall we

    Was told I was being rude with my first post to you  .. I honestly  didnt mean to be. If you care to, do drop by and read my lastest entry  on being born into  vituallity  as I call it

    ladysakai.wordpress.com

    Kindest

    Lady

    Rodvik Linden

    Posted

    *Says hello to Rod on her way  out the front door as she  returns from a brief visit at the parents house*

    Now you take good care of my  birthhome ok? I stil have  round 100K in my inventory and id hate to looe it. Otherwise have fun and do drop by my new home in InWorldz. Ill  buy you a cup of coffee and the  coffeeshop

    If you see Philip round the office  say hi from me, stil love him to bits

    Terrence Linden

    Posted

    It seems to be some sort of tactic LL has in matters like these. Throw the issue out there and wait.

    At one point people will start attacking each other and forget all about  the issue at hand and who / what started the debate aka LL

    Oh well same old thing

    *trods back to the other realm  to watch from a safe and kiddie free zone*

    Terrence Linden

    Posted

    yea you are ..  Philip isnt acting CEO anymore..  he stepped down again.  He is however still on  the LL board (meaning he still  owns a large chunk of LL) but the day to day  work as CEo  he wont be doing anymore. There is another (Bob something ..  cant remember his name) tha is  in the CEO chair untill they find someone to take over

    Messy ? Yea deff. IMO  Philip should have stayed on but  for me personally. To  little to late. I do however  have the depest respect for Philip and his vision. His  childhood dream fuled the kickstart of the virual worlds and  he will have a place in history  for that

    Terrence Linden

    Posted

    for clarification

    Yes Philip came back as interim CEO  few months back ..  however he left  in mid october

    http://blogs.secondlife.com/community/features/blog/2010/10/19/changing-my-role-and-searching-for-a-new-ceo

    and they are  as far as Im aware stil  seaching for an  CEO

    Philip  is still on  the board though

    as wel as working on  his Love Machine (which to my knowledge  hasnt been  clarified what  is yet .. or at least I  can  see what its for  LOL)

    Terrence Linden

    Posted

    *Applaudes*

    This is the only language LL understands!

    Kudos Graphic to you and your friends that has the  b***s to put your money where your mouth / oppinion is! Ive moved to  InWorldz. Better community, better prim value, better price, better SUPPORT, better.. better .. better! Heck even  the stability  is close to equal to SL and they are only in Beta!

    I got an email from a friend that I met in SL (met her in RL few years back as well)  she said that she dont like going to SL anymore. SL isnt what it used to be. Told her about InWorldz and  I hooked her up  in a small  house at my sim and she is  having fun again starting over. Ive brought another friend over  that create Hawaiien outfits and she is bringing yet others... Ill host as many as I can  on my  littel 65K sqm sim with 35K prims (low lag at its worst and no lag at its best) and if it comes down to it Ill buy  another sim to host more if need be .. oh  did I  metion ?  75usd for a sim over there That is less than you can  get a HS for at GF price (which btw LL took away unless your name is ).

    Its sad cos I used to be one of the bigest advocats of LL and SL. Not anymore *sighs*

    Message to LL; Yes I know well that your gonna try and shut us up  mentioning your compertition. Sorry  but it wont work. The more you try and shut us up the louder we will  yell!

    *waits to get moderated*

    Terrence Linden

    Posted

    Well guess what. I dont agree with this move. Why? Well Linden Lab, if I as an adult wanna go  out for anight  on my own (yes I have children) I wil not go to burger king cos that is where teens hang out. If I wanna be in an enviroment that includes  kids I choose that if I dont I will choose that. SL  was  marketet as an adult eviroment and now your changing the label even  if your  main user base (and those with the pocket books I might ad)  say they dont want this. How come you didnt even do a survey? Scared that  it might not swing to your advantage?

    Well while Im not leaving  SL as such I wont be logging in that much either, even thinking of cancelling my premium account due to this. I found a place where there is support, stability equal to SL even  if they are stil in beta, its for adults only, pricing is way  more  acceptable, the community is thriving and getting better .... guess you  just pushed and pushed  untill  I finally got the hint; You really  dont  care about your users anymore (if ever)

    Have fun with  the ARs, screaming parents etc etc etc

    FJ Linden

    Posted

    Hi Xan

    first of all I wanna commend you for your bravery  to poke your nose  in a debate like this   second  I think its great that  you did so as  it feels like people are being heard and resonded to.

    I noticed your remark on the prim hair with  scripts in  each prim. I  wanna firstly to express that  its is unbelievalbe that the creators  either still use these dinosaur scripts  or that they havent updated their hairs (+ other items) and made replacements available for the users. Im fully aware that it a huge job for the creators  but the one script resizers (that I myself use)  have been available for around two years now.

    Would it be possible for LL to sendt out a plea to creators to  get it done? Im sure  some creators will  bitch and moan due to the work load but  it needs to be done to lower the strain on the simulators wich in turn will benefit not only  sim crossings but also  regular use of said.

    Just a thought 

    FJ Linden

    Posted

    Sorry  had to react to this one. SL is NOT a game .. dont belive me ?  Listen to the creator himself

    SL is a VR = Virtual World

    Wiki  description of  what VR is

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_world

    Wiki description on what a game is

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game

    ******

    Today there is not only SL  but lots of other  VRs that provides a diverse form of platforms (Ive been to a handful myself and haven  scratched the surfface) Mostly all  is based on the same vision / idea / vision that Philip started out with when he "created" SL / LL

    In a VR you can  do  the same as you can in RL, with some added bonusses, like flying, moving a house with  your "finger", etc etc etc. In some respects its  merely a digitalised  form of the world we  physically live in.

    **********

    In regards to the V2, bully for you that you like it. A lot dont(!). That should tell you something and for that matter LL also.

    FJ Linden

    Posted

    We agree Vivienne. SL  cant be like the professional made games nor should they aspire to that cos that would mean ..  truning SL into a game IMHO.

    We agree completely that  its a strengh cos its the heart and soul of SL rip that out and it wil be dead!

    mentioned WOW as that is the only online game Ive been to  myslef and seen it. and while its pretty  to llook at it  will never be for me. Why ?  Cos frankly "I" find it boring , Im not a gamer and never will be. That is why I  love  SL and VRs in general

    FJ Linden

    Posted

    well then we are on the same page as far as I see it

    few answers to you Penny;

    No Im not saying LL dont have a problem with retention and marketing

    This is my take on it;

    • Retention;  people need to be made aware of what VRs are so they dont come in  expecting  something  big, flash and shiny (like  professional made games) User created VRs will never be flashy and shiney like the games online (at least not for many many years.  I do agree that  the learning curve is  nasty  even more so for people that come in not knowing people in-wolrd. For me it was honestly a breeze. I had loads of friends in SL and that  helped  more than anything
    • Marketing; Now I fully understand  why they  DONT market SL as agressivly as they could. Reason? Scalability! If they were to agressivly market  SL they would soon run into  huge problems. Remeber the CSI  incident / evening ? That was a nightmare that continued  for at least a fourth night  LOL They need to  adress the scalability and  THEN  market the  c..p out of SL.

     

    I dont know what viewer your using but in the TPV Im using the height is in the  apperance box. LL could do worse than  looking over the shoulder of some of these TPV developers. I do agree that thre are so many little things that needs to be fixed. your points are very very valid. I just need to say that  some of the larger things wont fall into place just cos Ll fixes the "little" things.

    As it stands now lack of faith and trust in LL as a whole is low and that is very very  bad. Some of the major desitions they made  the last  6 months alone is horrendous and mind boggleling to say the least.

    Do I belive they can  turn it around? Yea sure, but it will take a lot of work and  a lot of back peddeling from LLs top

    Basicly Penny we dont disagree

    FJ Linden

    Posted

    dont know how long you been in Sl and how closely you been  following  the changes over the years. Ill  just assume you have  been in SL long and been  watching closely

    Now you know and I know and  a lot of others know why  some of those places are gone now and why the  creativ part of SL is  sorely lacking these days

    It can said in one word ECONOMY (of course  other stuff factors in but that is really the gist of it)

    I dont belive that  Ll should start on  creation that would be a slippery slope  that will drive even more away.

    What  needs to change is  the PERCEPTION of what SL and  Virtual Reality  worlds are.

    It is NOT a game  never has been and never will be. SL is the forerunner  and LL chose the perfect name for it "Second Life" Im often  puzzled why people seem to  miss that one. Its in the NAME itself .

    I agree that  creating could be easier for the amateurs  but that is  a debate with many sides to it and will have pros and cons to it. All in all I think  LL did a heck of a job getting this world up and running  as pioneers. Do I agree with some of their decitions the last three+ years ?  Heck no I dont.

    LL has to be very carefull not to  destroy  their own world completely. The lack of faith  in the company  is staggering and its becomming worse with each desition (why cant I spell that stupid word) they make.

    Back to Basics it is for Philip and LL but will it truely  be that ? Time will tell.

    Also  I notice that most of the people that  blabber on and on about how  horrid SL is  outside of SL are people that never did take time to  venture into the world and give it a fair chance for what it is not for something  THEY  think it should be (note Im talking about people outside of SL not long time users)

    cheers Lady, who is a USER of SL not a PLAYER of SL

    FJ Linden

    Posted

    Im sorry but I have to call  BS on that one.

    Quote (sorry have to copy paste as I still havent figured this wierd bloggy thingy out yet)

    "SL has a reputation for looking terrible"

    "Tell me, what do you expect from user created content...." >snip<

    end quote

    Ive been to places that  looked absolutely amazing (sadly most are gone now but that is another debate) in SL. Sure some of the content are made by  amateurs but that dont mean its crap  some are and some arent. THAT  is the heart and soul of SL and any other  VR based on  the same  visions as SL. If you want  perfection go to WOW or any other  GAME. You can run around all day looking at pretty stuff and shoot bunnies or what not. IF you want to  be around  creative and passionate people  go to SL  or some of the other  VRs out there.

    Lag is another issue. Dont forget  some lag we get in Sl are viewer based / aka your own hardware and NOT server side. All Sl / alternate VRs can do is try to run fast enough to keep up with the preasure on their servers.

    end rant, sorry FJ

    Terrence Linden

    Posted

    Please aducate yourself  and stop pointing fingers at something you obviously dont know anything about

    Furry fandom refers to the fandom for fictional anthropomorphic animal characters with human personalities and characteristics. Examples of anthropomorphic attributes include exhibiting human  intelligence and facial expressions, the ability to speak, walk on two  legs, and wear clothes. Furry fandom is also used to refer to the  community of people who gather on the Internet and at conventions.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furry_fandom#cite_note-1'>

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    Now can we please discuss the upcomming merge without specifics .. I think general terms would be sufficiant.

    Terrence Linden

    Posted

    now as a bit of serious humor

    here is how the adults can talk 7 sing  after  TG is merged with MG

    Any innapropiate word is censored and substituted with "LaLa"

    "Lala Lala Lala Lala Lala

    Lala Lala Lala Lala - Stiff

    Lala Lala Lala - in the country

    Lala Lala - pelvis

    Lala Lala Lala - stinging netles

    OUCH OUCH OUCH

    Lala Lala - Quick lets get out

    Lala Lala - Fish cakes

    Lala Lala Lala - cock - NO!!"

     

    Yeap lots and lots of fun

    (this was merly a humerous attept of showing how  adult woud have to censor themself once the kiddies  land)

    Terrence Linden

    Posted

    point is Gavin that  SL was for adults (still is btw according to their TOS) We dont come ruin your fun when your hanging out  at a teen club in RL (sure there are  adults around but that is  for protection )

    You are a child. Period

    We are adults. Period

    SL is our escape from  what ever RL resposibilities we have.

    We dont want  kids / teen around our SL lives. That would mean we have to  watch what we are doing and the freedom we have  are gone forever. Of course we can  lock ourself in adult areas in an attempt to  hide from the kids. Where exactly is the freedom in that?

    Gavin, for all I care you can  list  about teens  that has  made money in  TG  till the cows come home. I honestly dont  care. I signed up for an  adult  VR not  a kid / disney oriented one. I belive there are plenty of that / those around!

     

    (FYI for the narrow minded that think all opposed to this merge  roam Zindra. They dont. I dont visit Zindra, been there a few times but not my idea of fun to be honest. Even so i still opposed the  segregation at that time)

    Terrence Linden

    Posted

    @ Dave

    and your point is?

    Hell why even  have laws to protect the kids  then? Lets just let them drink, drive, have sex, smoke, etc etc etc  willy nilly  all they want cos what the heck do we care ... right ? Yeap that is very responsible of us

    Kids / teens will try and push the boundaries and like it or not  as adults it is our resposebility to stop them and set up rules and laws  to protect and  prohibit. I repeat; That is why  we are adults and they are kids / teens

    Terrence Linden

    Posted

    Blog ate my former reply so here we go again

    @ Dave

    Idea is fine but have you factored in that some of the kiddies might  lie ?

    @ Terrence

    anyway you could fix the reply thing so i dont get pushed back up  to OP when I  hit reply and I  have to scroll all the way  back down again? Know its a minor thing but still

    @ Ishy

    She might not get this reply but still;  Thank you for underlining my point

    @ Ayla

    Well at least some educators have some common sense

    Terrence Linden

    Posted

    @ Ishy

    Let me try and explain this in a non biggot judgemental agressiv way

    No we dont welcome kids / teens into SL (apart from a few )

    Why? well ;

    • We are adults, we want to be around adults
    • Most of us have children in our RL. SL is a sort of getaway for us. Dont you enjoy a getway sometimes from your parents / adult in your life?
    • We see potentual danger  not only for us but also  for you and LL. In form of predators (no they sadly dont wear a sign) LL could get into serious hot water if just one story hits the mainstream press even if its unfounded once the suspecion is out  there is no turning back
    • We have encountereed teens in the MG (or most of us have) and the experience is / was not a good one.
    • We have RL money invested in SL some of us thousant and thousant of US dollars. Bringing LL / SL in harmway  means we run a real risk of loosing that investment

    Now some clear facts:

    The brain development isnt finished untill around age 20. This mean the way you think is vastly different from the way an adult think. This is not a put down towards children but a clear physical fact. There is nothing you can  do about that, other that wait.

    Many adults do take their responsebilities very serious. As adults we have a resonsibility to protect children from anythng that can  harm  them. Yes that mean we have to be the bad guys (in the eyes of children/teens) and put our foot down and say "NO" when needed. children and teens will in turn throw fits and  say that we are unfair. So  be it. That is how you persive it and that is ok. BUT that dont mean  your right.

    I always welcome the wiews of children and teens but that dont mean Im gonna budge once the decition is made and that is why Im the adult and your the child. I call the shots I decide what is and isnt good for you (generally speaking here )

    The fact so many adults are now saying "STOP"  is because we do take our resposebility very serious. Dont forget Ishy that LL is a business and as a business they want to make money. Now I dont work at LL so I cant say 100% what made them  take this hair brained step into  the abyss. If I was to make a guess Id say its because they  crunched some figures and calculated that it would be cheaper for them  to  merge the two grids and in the process keep the tier income from the educators, meaning more money  in the coffers for them (LL) Dont for a second think LL is trying to be nice to  the kids / teens. Afterall they just shut down AvatarsUnited without batting an  eye, Why? cos it was an expence they didnt need and couldnt get any profit from.

    I dearly hope you wont be allowed into the MG in any shape or form untill your 18.

    • I dont know if you even  want to understand or can understand. What I do know is that  when your an adult you will see things differently and  most likely  see our points.
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