Maelstrom Janus

I love building as well as doing a host of other things in sl...I dont want to have to become a software boffin to build though, and I certainly dont want to seeLindens craftily dodge providing me - or any other regular sl builder - with decent building tools inworld...we arent seeing any changes with in world building or even any mention of whats happening to inworld building.. And while the mesh fanatics are passing this off with a quick 'prims will be around for a long time to come' theyre not 'encouraging' any statement on the future of building with prims or encouraging innovation for people who dont want to learn and use new software which cant be used in sl.....

Add a nominal fee eh Jack..... KERCHING !!!! Some bloody crafty planning strategists at Lindens I'll give you that.... By the way will that be chargeable for v.a.t. Lol

So let me see f I got this straight..I dont use avatars united...but if I understand it correctly its a way of people from various virtual worlds communicating , saying whats going on in their worlds... Lindens buy it...then shut it down... bang goes the hub of interworld communication... ?

Jennifer I'm not counting on anything from Lindens expect barmy new schemes to attract new customers and more rules and cutback to make SL slightly less attractive to existing customers we've heard nothing about attempts to stabilise in world burdens like the farce of crossing regional or even parcel boundaries... philip for all his talk about making sl more accessible has done nothing at all about pricing - it wasn't even mentioned during his inworld meeting... but of course all this 'brave new world' talk about meshes provides, as ever, a convenient smokescreen to obscure those of us who shout for a better deal from sl. Ive seen enough to tell me that meshes are going to be a source of fun for an sl minority who love 'tech' I see no indication from any of them, bar yourself, that they enjoy sl inworld activities or building...the one builder whose work I know and trust, Cobalt Neutra seemed dismissive of sl's plans. I dont need to be a tech to know that I can't build inworld with meshes and that I cant see my finished creation inworld until Ive paid to import it. Supporters of mesh have generally been dismissive of anyone voicing concern about the plans or demanding some commitment by lindens to providing us with not only a functioning inworld building system but an improving one..They also demand more and more of sl resources... Lindens have not taken part at any stage of the discussion... You're right I dont count on anything from Linden labs except of course more questionaires whose results always seem obscure and - if my responses have been at all typical - unheeded....

Hmmm I think some people are bamboozling others as to the capability of these meshes and Im thinking its going to be a lot less than SL is capable of handling... good grief despite many calls from ordinary builders Lindens cant even give us megaprims as standard yet....me Id just be happy to choose the axis I want to taper my prims along...even that seems beyond the capability of sl... Certainly Im not hearing anything at all from lindens to suggest people who like building inworld using those ordinary prims have anything new or interesting to look forward to.. ...and despite the obvious, the techies still arent acknowledging the simple fact that wholescale introduction of meshes would give lindens the ability to simply shrug off any responsibilty for providing sl builders with new and interesting tools based on the system EVERYONE knows how to use.....

ive just looked at a blender link I was given a couple of posts ago by Melissa - very nice artwork undoubtedly - so how much of that can be imported into sl? when and when will I be able to fly the ornithopter in sl? Or when can I expect to see avy's like - MetalPhoenix, AndroidII or AmazingGirl....??

4 years ago ????? Good grief how much would the new version of that software cost ? Im shocked trully shocked

Just to put it in perspective mine and my partners combined tier is 150 (not including v.a.t of course but no one at lindens ever takes v.a.t into account)so 3500 WOULD PAY OUR TIER FOR 2 YEARS !!!!!

Give me a sec Im still gasping at the thought of paying 3500 to build............ is somebody going to show me something good done with cheap software...very cheap... no wonder theres no talk of Lindens providing in world mesh building tools !!!!!

3500 ???????????????????? And thats not for the up to date software..... Okay how long did it take to produce those 'blueprints of the pieces ??

Pity noone made a video for smug so and sos who cant see genuine concerns about the changes and lump everyone together as 'anti mesh'

Jennifer I must admit Im curious about that train youre building ...I didnt read the full post because theres just so much now...but how much did that complex looking bit of software with the various diagrams of the train cost... Have I interpreted proprely you imported a picture of a locomotive and then just copied the info into the software ? Or did you have to draw the picture of the train first ? Dont you need to know all the dimensions of your train or do you import the info you create on that software and then 'texture' prims with the details which you then stretch to size ??

So meshes arent the answer to improving the one thing about avvys I always thought needed improving.. i.e. the hands

Come on you guys can we have mesh avvys or not ?? I thought at least you techs would tow the same line

I just want to see your standard mesh avvy to see how they compare with what I see in sl.... is it that complex a request ??

If there are enough people who want to go through the process of learning that software to build...if there are fine... lets hope they want to carrying on paying tiers ... just out of curiousity punchinello mind telling me what your tier is ?

So can we get some pics of these 'low arc cost ' avvys here ?

I noticed Blue Mars was mentioned..I hope the avvys there aren't an example of mesh avvys because I thought mine was horrible - one of the main reasons I didnt bother with blue mars in fact.....

Seen 'em where ? Id be interested to see some mesh avvys... I dont think much of the character at the top of the blog - not as an sl avvy Id wear anyway.....

If lindens can soup up sl to accomodate all these buffs who seem to want to turn sl into some super cgi film..they can certainly up the prim count plot introduce megaprims and give the inworld building system a makeoker... all of which if done correctly would be infinitely more use and more FUN for the average sl user....

All these ludicrous requests theyre like going back to 1920 something and asking Buster Keaton to make the Star Wars trilogy... lol.......

Lol as it stands it only takes a few people wearing blingy necklaces to slow SL to sandstill.....what this guys asking for sounds like expecting a guy peddling a bike to power an ocean liner......

good grief youre not asking for much are you??? All I want are a few new prim shapes and ways of cutting 'em....Why do I have a feeling your requests will lag SL to a degree where the warp engines of the USS Enterprise wont even get you moving......

Everyone is arguing from a dealers point of view.. Well I dont sell anything in sl I pay to play...I pay to have fun and working at complex software out of world is simply not my idea of fun... What would be fun would be being able to do more with the inworld buildings system not to be told to go away and make some mathematical idea of what I want to build and then pay more on top of my tier to import my build hoping the end product looks like I want it to....

Just like before and there in lies the crux of the problem ...no indication of any improvements in the existing in world system or expanding its scope... not even a mention of megaprims as standard....