Chase01
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@ShelbyBeu The vendors go where the money is. Rigging takes time and right now most vendors are already rigging for 3-4 bodies.
I would agree with you on the PR piece though. SLINK is an established brand but its reach has waned. Body aside, the marketing for the new bodies looked dated. -
I agree with Rowan. The rental prices at your estate are above average. Many of the estates I have looked at or rented from are doing at least a 1-1.
I also wanted to add, that I have rarely ever sourced my rental through a listing, or by a random search. More often then not, I will ask a friend who they rent from, and use that as a basis to make further inquiry. Word of mouth is key! I am not sure how many tenants you currently have, but it would be beneficial for you to offer them an incentive on their rent if they can refer a friend to rent at your estate. There should also be discounts for tenants who are paying their rent in advance.
Outside of posting ads, I would also suggest networking more. Do you know a lot of people? Do they know the business you're in?
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Hi all! I was wondering if anyone knows a place to freeplay Lucky Rainbow? I have seen various other games not in the skill regions because they were freeplay $1 refunded. I used to love doing Lucky Rainbow for fun to pass the time. Anyone know where some are that are not in a skill region? Thanks!
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Ok, so ease up on that quote button. I promise its safe to do so.
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50 minutes ago, Coffee Pancake said:
Not having tried VR has more to do with not wanting to try VR.
It's not gained mass market appeal because the techno-danglies are perfectly perfect, it's that most people take one look at it and decide on the spot .. nope ! The rest who do buy in to try, are more likely to use it once, feel ill, and then never touch it again (and of course lament the cost and disappointment to anyone who will listen).
The second hand market is flooded with nearly new mint in the box setups that their owners have barely used.
My son picked up a used once Quest2 setup for the price of shipping, used it a few times and found it to be an intensive and stomach turning experience. He's had great fun .. and goes months between dusting it off and having another go.
It's a dead end technology that's coming to the end of it's hype cycle
Not sure if you agree or disagree with me ...
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6 minutes ago, Coffee Pancake said:
It's really not though, VR as a technology has been plodding along for decades at this point.
There is nothing new in this space, just more iterative refinement of systems as imagined in the 1960s.
https://www.vrs.org.uk/virtual-reality/history.html
The goggles are higher resolution, the frame rates are better, the motion tracking improves, the virtual environments get richer and more polished, we're not strapping actual CRTs to our heads anymore .. but iteration isn't innovation. The technology is and always has been dependent on strapping a screen(s) to your face and hoping you're not in a room with jerks while you fend off motion sickness. At least you don't have to be in a science lab anymore .. yaaay progress.
It we ever get a tech that beams the images into our heads without a fancy array of screens and optics, that will likely be called something else, just so industry can start fresh with a new buzzword.
I am well aware of the VR tech backstory. The tech behind it has been improving, but when I say it is a novelty, what I mean is that most people have never even tried VR in any capacity. It is far from mass usage. Maybe in 5-10 years that will be a very different story.
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VR is still in its infancy and more of a novelty at this point. So its not a shocker Sansar wasn't going to do well. I'm all about the silver lining but in business terms, it was a failure. I am glad someone was dumb enough to buy it and LL was able to recovery some of the money they wasted on it.
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Totally agree Sid. I'm guessing (from experience) that the labs is looking to diversify their income stream because they have reservations about how SL will perform in the years to come. Unfortunately for them, Sansar backfired and never gained any traction.
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On 2/14/2022 at 6:18 PM, missyrideout said:
Anyway, safe to say Slink doesn't have that kind of juice at the moment.
I'd have to agree with that.
I saw BOM as a way of unifying all of these individual products and Lelutka goes ahead and breaks the mold and were right back to square where we were before to some extent.
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A demo would be almost an absolute must. Vendor ads in general can be very misleading and seeing a demo gives pieces of mind. If a vendor chooses not to offer a demo, then I can only assume they don’t believe their work is of good quality. The appearance of a shape can change rather drastically based on the skin that is paired with it. So, if you have a demo, you can at least test it with skins you’re thinking of using with it. Without that, it’ll be a shot in the dark.
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I uninstalled and that seemed to have helped ...
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How can I clear my viewer cache when I can't use anything on my HUD on login?
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Hello all
I hadn't logged into SL for some time and earlier today I decided to login and say hi to some old friends. Everything seemed fine and then I logged out. Tonight (a few min ago), I tried logging in and I am getting the "there is an issue with your inventory, please logout and if the issue persists contact support" ... (something close to that) Anyone have any ideas what the issue could be? I put in a support ticket but haven't heard back yet. Thanks in advance!
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Who else saw the trailer for this and was left feeling completely let down? When I heard Camron was coming on board for this one I had higher hopes. The T2 teaser trailer did more in 30-seconds then this trailer did in 2-3 minutes.
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10 hours ago, Alyona Su said:
When a forum (or SL in-world) glitch happens, never try to "figure it out" because it will drive you crazy and insane.
It's not a glitch. You quoted me and then went on a rant and it really had nothing to do with what I said. That's why I am confused.
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6 hours ago, vvvRavenvvv said:
there is a bigger issue with acting like this
yes whoever creates some thing can put whatever price they want on some thing and whoever buys it is free to do so
but you have to understand that this is the free market
some business practices are malicious in nature and this one is a very good example
to make matters worse , if we allow or even go to support people practicing such malicious tactics we allow other brands who would usually shy from using them to quickly adopt them , the consumer ( you ) dont seem to mind them , before you knwo it , every content creator will just make EA their idol
not acceptable
malicious practices should never ever be greeted with the '' you do you '' attitude , because it infects the market and soon you lose your choicehuh? I am still trying to figure out why I was quoted in this ...
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1 hour ago, Alyona Su said:
Never have, likely never will. I've tried to demo (when they were still a "thing" - hated the very "shopping experience". admittedly, curious about this new one, if for no reason other than knowledge about it, though if the shopping experience is the same or similar, then ~shruugs~
Do you own TMP?
I do, yes. If you'd like to see my comments you're welcome to read my previous posts in this thread.
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18 minutes ago, Alyona Su said:
However, in SL it is 100% caveat emptor, a.k.a. "buyer beware"; there is no recourse to any perceived unfairness, legal or otherwise.
Yes, thank you. We already knew this. That is exactly why threads like this are so valuable. So buyers can be educated on the product and make a better decision for themselves.
23 minutes ago, Alyona Su said:In truth, their methods make strong business sense, customer support notwithstanding.
Do you own anything TMP?
33 minutes ago, Alyona Su said:There is low-margin/high-volume (a.k.a. Walmart or Costco) and there is high-margin/low-volume (a.k.a. Nordstrom Shoes or Burberry handbags) - in either case, Walmart will get Walmart Customers, Nordrom's will get Nordstrom's customers, they target different markets. This is my main point.
What does this even have to do with what we're talking about?
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36 minutes ago, Ruslana Koskinen said:
Around 2 years ago, I bought a Genesis head from a sale evening. The head seem lacking of something (i cannot remember). I sent NC to the creator and she replied me anything not from their shop do not support. Wording was so blunt. She slapped my face. Since then I never visited their shop once. So I hate those no support product. Second Life always improve and also create new bugs. It is so inevitable need help from the creator. Buy no support product is risk on your own $L.
I don't think you meant to quote me lmao. That was a quote from Alyona Su.
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4 hours ago, halebore Aeon said:
I think a lot of us are just weary about their business practices, their price, and how they go about doing things. That doesn't make it wrong for someone to want to buy it. Just fair warning though, be careful. I bought it back in like 2016 and liked it for a bit. So it was the coolest thing, was excited about the updates. Yet they never came, I waited and waited and waited. Until I got fed up, and switched to the Signature body. This was before I identified as female. But yeah the update did come, after 5 -6 years of them constantly promising. Then as a big old slap in the face, they sold their retire bodies at 500L. So all of us who paid a crap tonne of money into this body. Felt it was kinda unfair, that it took them 6 years to update. But right when they update, they sell it for 500L and discontinue the body. Fast forward a few months later, they come back with this brand new body. Looks like the old body, but things were updated. People went in droves to buy it, but some of us. Were really weary of this, especially with the price tag. 5k for a body and people were screaming praises that it was the best body on the grid. We questioned them and questioned them as to why. We got the same answer over and over again, and then they started talking about these deformers. However, there was one big problem. We the people, who wanted to actually give the body a second try, were perturbed. That A we couldn't take it home and fiddle with it, and B we didn't get the deformers in the demo folder. We just had to trust a video they released. And still there is no support, and there is probably never gonna be Omega support. You will just have to use their in-house skins, or buy an applier and install it on a HUD. If they do shut down, or have to do maintenance or get attacked. The bodies will be useless. That is why people won't invest again. There is no good return, at such high price.
Exactly. Your story sounds a lot like my own. I waited and waited, listened to their promises of updates that never came. Buyers today expect more and know more. Back then there was very little in the way of competition and people took their word at face value. They presented us with a new shiny thing to have and I am sure they've quickly realized that things have changed and people haven't forgotten.
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2 hours ago, Alyona Su said:
As for this new body being L$5000? That is the value the creators have placed on it. You (general 'you') may balk at that and think it is stupidly ridiculous. However, anyone who purchases it will feel that is a fair price for the perceived value. I work for a business-to-business training company and we are always harping to salespeople "do NOT sell based on your own wallet, because you do not know the perceived worth and value your customer places on the product or service." Meaning: YOU may think it's over-priced crap, but they may think differently and you have no way of knowing why. Example: Someone brings in a 15-year-old crusty $50 watch for repair that will cost $150. Do you say "It's not worth repairing, why waste your money?" ... and if the answer is "It was my dads and he died last week, this is all I have left." - now you look like the real jerk. Good job.
The GENUS head is L$5000. For *JUST A HEAD*. AND, it is a rebirth of the Defunct "Genesis" group, meaning those Genesis heads are not only no longer updated or developed, but they also are actually no longer officially supported, yet the entire sim and retail location is still there and sales are (likely) still robust. And yet, the Genus head is selling like gangbusters (I have one myself). Go figure.
I think that goes without saying though. We are not salespeople for TMP and consumers are entitled to express their opinion of value. What discussions like this do is better arm consumers to make better purchasing decisions.
The comparison of TMP to Genus/Genesis Labs is an apples to oranges comparison and for a lot of reasons.
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4 hours ago, Aerdrie Fabre said:
Hah good point. I spent a couple of hours trying on demos I'd been queuing up from the marketplace. Realized a store I thought would be super cute turned out to be kinda meh. So +1 for demos :p.
Now if I can only figure out why shoes that say they're for the maitreya body attach on about half a foot in front of my feet!!
It could be that you have to change your foot position (flat, medium, high). If it still doesn't fit after doing that, then there is a good chance the shoe was rigged without the use of the dev kit.
As you know, in the past, we had no other choice but to rely on advertisements to make purchasing decisions. Demos help give peace of mind, and more importantly, it can help to increase sales and even provide an opportunity for a lesser-known vendor to make a sale. It does not come as a surprise to me that I own more FATPACKS from the vendors which offer a FATPACK HUD with their demo.
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On 5/6/2019 at 8:45 AM, Aerdrie Fabre said:
I think part of the trepidation for folks who have been on a break from SL and are just now coming back, is that the way you navigate the system feels more complex than it used to be. Now it feels VERY HUD-heavy and instead of being able to universally use clothing, you have to demo everything before buying it. Kind of feels like a "how many clicks to get to the outfit you want" sort of thing. Of course, this increases the power of customization so there is that benefit.
Initially, it does but you'll find that once you get the basics down it's relatively straightforward. I NEVER EVER want to go back to a time when we couldn't demo clothing. 😁
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I totally agree. Lelutka took a risk and it was a very savvy move on their part. At the same time, Catwa was slow to respond. As a consumer, it is going to take more then hype to entice me to buy in. I need to see that there is product support on the back end or I am not interested.