[How Does Your SL Look Today?]

1 hour ago, Cali Souther said:

If I had even the slightest clue how,  I'd love to play!

We have to get together some time and I can teach you, the most difficult part is find a time that works

[The Lindens Tinkered with the Viewer Again]

I only check advanced if I know there are a bunch of materials I MUST see, otherwise is not worth the performance hit.

Also, I didnt notice any changes, but I rezzed in the most bare plataform 3000mts up, no materials, barely any textures, etc.

[Caption my GIF!]

1 hour ago, SarahKB7 Koskinen said:

 

"Trying to use the multi-quote function"

 

[Recognizing and refraining from Interpersonal Disputes]

Just now, JuliaFina said:

From the web site you linked:

"Defamation is typically defined as a false statement someone makes about you, which they publish as a statement of fact, and which harms your personal and/or professional reputation or causes you other damages, including financial loss and emotional distress.

Like posting someone did something which they did not do. 

You have to prove damages.

[Recognizing and refraining from Interpersonal Disputes]

26 minutes ago, Randall Ahren said:

Would these be examples of personal attacks in posts leading to interpersonal disputes:

1. It's about time you started taking notes. 🤭

2. I can't believe y'all are grown ass men calling yourself "alpha men"

3. Google Dunning-Kruger effect. Because you are pulling stuff out of your posterior at this point, with great confidence.

4. Someone seems to have lost tract of their ridiculous posts.  ^^

It depends, if I tell you that the sun is an orb afixed to the firmament of our flat earth, in a very authoritative way, correcting you on your position of the earh being a globe and orbiting the sun.  And you tell me that I might not know as much as I think I do, are you attacking me?

You see, the big error in those examples, is that you picked them without context, they are personal in the sense that they are direct replies to another poster,

The first one reads as a joke, it was the answer to a jokey meme. 

The second one was a rebuttal to a really toxic pseud-scientific belief, bordering on eugenics about some people being genetically superior to others, scorn is earned, I think the rebuttal was tame.

  Your third example is from me, after repeated times asking the other poster to please read the source of the terms he was usingm if you know what the Dunning-Kruger effect is, this was a textbook definition of it.

The fourth one, I really dont know the full context, full disclosure, Im too lazy to re-read all the huge posts, sometimes people take the REALLY long way around to make a point and get lost in the weeds, Ill grant you that it could be phrased better.

This are all definitely examples of conflict and wether you consider them personal attcks depends a lot on your interpretation and your own values.  If you belive that civil discourse is more important than content, and that even the intolerant must be tolerated, then you will probably consider those four examples as personal attacks.

From my point of view, MAYBE the fourth example is a bit too personal, again, I do not remember the full context on that one. The rest of them look A-OK to me.

[Recognizing and refraining from Interpersonal Disputes]

There is also the "Im technically not touching you" posters, that reply very personal, very offensive things, with the thinnest layer of obfuscation that everyone can see through.

And hide behind that technicality as if it wasnt clearly transparent.

[IMing randomers]

9 hours ago, MalibuBratz said:

I really hope lmao

The vore thing I still dont fully understand how it works tbh lol. 

It´s totally a thing, everytime I hear about it I am reminded of the hit comedy podcast Episode 1, where they often make jokes about one of the members wanting to be turned into a turkey and eaten by Taylor Swift.  And then they made a whole episode about it, and it´s great.

 

[Why does it matter?]

Just now, JuliaFina said:

I have friends that met in sl and have been married for 5 years now! So sometimes it's good to let the other person know what you are in rl. But yea you don't have too and most times it does not matter. I can always tell what people are rl anyway as I have an IQ of 160. There's always clues most would not be aware of.

At what IQ number do people learn how to write?

[CALIGULA?]

2 hours ago, Benson Gravois said:

Hey folks,

I've been doing some market place shopping and I see a lot of great looking clothes from a company named "Caligula." The only problem is they have no demos so I am a little weary.

Anyone know anything about the clothes from this company? Do they fit all body systems right?

They have demos in-world.

The clothes looks fine, but I have a big issue with the rigging. With certain bodies you have to hide big chunks of your body, if not the whole body for some outfits not to bleed.

And they dont fit ALL body systems, each item will have a list of compatible bodies.

[Teleport Failed]

Ive never seen that message, for me it just locks up and disconects me after a bit.  And it seems to be based on mood, sometimes it happens every other TP, sometimes I can teleport 20 times in a row without an issue.  I cant figure out what the problem is or if there is anything I can do from my side to make it happen less often.

[Requesting an LGBTQ+ sub forum.]

2 minutes ago, Velk Kerang said:

Well all rightey then. lol Sensitive much? lol I take it you don't have a lot of experience with someone who is straight forward to the point and blunt. lol I was not being intentionally rude. Sorry you took it that way. On a final note. If you're straight as you say. You're not in the LGBTQ+ community. At best you're an ally. Those letters actually do stand for something. lol Have a good day.👍😎

FInal LOL count  per paragraph: 4

Results: Not to be taken seriously.

[Requesting an LGBTQ+ sub forum.]

5 hours ago, Extrude Ragu said:

I'd disagree with you but I honestly can't.

I recall the 'White Lives Matter' Banner being towed by a plane and it was only allowed to be called racist and white supremacist by the people who are supposedly inclusive.

Women who feel excluded from sports now, because men must be allowed to compete with them lest they be called transphobic.

Every corporation on earth now supports LGBTQ+ and flies rainbow banners everywhere. The rainbows basically are the mainstream.

I also notice how the idea of an LGTBQ+ place is advocated as a place for the young and vulnerable, but to me that sounds just ripe for abuse in itself, as the vulnerable are more easily groomed by people who want them to join their group and won't hear a second opinion. The young should simply not be engaging sexually with strangers on the internet, that is between them and their parents. In fact, they should not be on the SecondLife forums to begin with - Isn't there a minimum age requirement to play SecondLife?

I want to give you the benefit of the doubt, because not everyone is extremely online.  The white lives matter, was designed by white nationalists, you know, the people that think that the country they live in should only be for white people.  Some people simply parrot the phrase without knowing it´s origin, but it is, without the shadow of a doubt, extremely racist. You cant ignore why the phrase exists, there is a context to it, just like black lives matter has a context to it too, you should look this things up.

The second point I find very distateful from your post, is the veiled asumption that LGBTQ+ are pedophiles, the rules for content, adult content and age restrictions would be the same as in any other part of the forum.

This are all talking points Ive heard before, from people who are openly racist, homophobic, transphobic, etc.  Im not saying that you are, but you should question yourself, why your views align with theirs, or where did you pick up this biases.

[How Does Your SL Look Today?]

Working on the DnD setup before I have to go.

[Why does it matter?]

1 minute ago, Maryanne Solo said:

Wow so much for: 
HI! I'm new! Any1 wanna hang out? 😆

@Diamond Marchant. Thx for Rando lol.

God damnit! This is brilliant! Im saving it.

[Requesting an LGBTQ+ sub forum.]

27 minutes ago, Solo Alpha said:

I'd also like to ask of you that if trying to discuss things with me to refrain from using questionmarks only. 

That is a fair ask, I have to asume that you have no problem using the pronouns that people tell you they identify with.  Otherwise you would be a huge hypocrite.

[Requesting an LGBTQ+ sub forum.]

11 minutes ago, Sam1 Bellisserian said:

Excuse me? Because I'm a member of the forum. I thought that was obvious by me having an account.

Sorry, I wasnt clear enough, what I meant is, why all the fighting, what is it that you oppose and why.

 

[Requesting an LGBTQ+ sub forum.]

2 minutes ago, Sam1 Bellisserian said:

Cover your eyes...stick your finger in your ear and sing lalalala. That's the attitude that you have for anyone that doesn't have the same opinion as you. I can see why you are lost.

Excuse me, why are you even here ?

[Requesting an LGBTQ+ sub forum.]

3 minutes ago, Sam1 Bellisserian said:

BUT see you don't get a choice as to who posts in a forum. Is there going to be some kind of "vetting" process to be able to post in this sub forum? Will you have to present some sort of proof that you are LGBTQ+?

You have to show the ID card, where it proves that you have succesfully completed a tour in the reeducation camps. Is that what you wanted to hear?

Because the real answer is so much simpler, it would just be a place where moderation keeps LGBTQ+ topics from derailing into culture war stuff, simple as that.

[Requesting an LGBTQ+ sub forum.]

Dont take the bait

[Requesting an LGBTQ+ sub forum.]

This thread itself is an example of why an LGBTQ+ subforum is needed.

Not as a place to isolate LGBTQ+ people, but to have a place where the threads are not going to be raided by the anti-LGBTQ+ brigade. (and the white pride brigade too it seems)

[Meet me at The Forum Cartel]

9 hours ago, Cali Souther said:

Riley!

I am inmortalized in the blackboard 😄

[Non-binary]

23 minutes ago, entity0x said:

You go girl.  You do you. Call me whatever you want, as it doesn't make it true.

And really, you quote my entire post and this is all you picked out of it to respond to?

But it might make it true, if, as you claim, so many people end up blocking you.  It MUST have crossed your mind at some point, that maybe the problem is not everyone else.  That even if your ideals, to you, are absolute and unquestionable (already not a good sign), then there might be something in the way you express yourself that alienates people.

And I am making a HUGE assumption here, that you are indeed not a troll, and you arent arguing with the sole purpose of making people upset.

edit:

Not trying to do a gotcha, I ask sincerely, because in another forum, where my political views are not shared, I am usually the one coming off as needlessly confrontational and abrassive, and I have figured ways to express my ideals, but at the same time being mindful of the community I am in, to make communication easier, instead of a constant fight.

[Help with a issue and a Mesher.]

That is terrible, but it´s a lot of money upfront.

Lindal Kid´s advice is good, another thing I would add is, if the mesher is not well known, start with something small, see how they handle deadlines, communication, what the end product looks like, do they provide any help after delivery, etc.  And then go for something a bit bigger, and so on.

Anyway, I hope you can resolve this, and if you cant get your money back, at least they deliver a mesh.

[Where are the over 40 people?]

1 hour ago, sirhc DeSantis said:

Late December 1963. I have a song named after me - not that one

Never get why you'all ( am I doing that right) feel the need to self label. Will give it a try. I call you'all the 'think a crap cheap cut of meat badly treated and the lowest offcut waste the better cos adverts and corporate'  + fries ( == badly done chips) is food...

Hence dubbed  'the unexplainable'. Covers 1925 to present day.

Label me - the time that music was so good it was so good. And it gets better. This side of the pond natch oh and all over the World

It´s not an identity,  think of it as a horoscope, you were born in august, you are a Leo, you were born in whatever year you are a goat, you were born between 1946-64, you are boomer.

[Why are so few bodies moddable? A discussion topic!]

2 hours ago, Wulfie Reanimator said:

Although I worded the post to compare myself to yourself, look at it in a more general context. My avatar is significantly lighter than the average mesh avatar by most metrics. But I can get even more general than that:

I value creativity above all else in Second Life; performance, quality of life, or anything else is secondary. No-modify for general consumer products goes against what the essence of Second Life is -- user-created content.

If everything was no-modify by default (and it has become that way in large parts), Second Life would be a worse place.

It's great that someone can spend the time to create a 3D model/rig a piece of clothing that looks good and make money from it. It's even greater when someone who can't make a 3D models/rig can buy it and create their own texture for it (adding further creativity) rather than having an arbitrarily limited set of choices.

That's the foundation for any argument I have against no-modify. Being able to optimize my avatar is just one aspect of how I want to express myself and I don't demand/expect others to do the same even if they had the option.

I never blame the people who buy "heavy" content, since it's not the end-user's responsibility to fix SL's problems. That responsibility sits on the shoulders of the people creating content and sharing it publicly, as well as Linden Lab who should work on improving the systems we have to enable more/better content (such as the evolution from prims -> sculpts -> mesh -> fitted mesh -> bakes on mesh).

Just a reminder, the OP is about mesh bodies, not objects in general. There really is a lot less wiggle room with bodies, from a technical point of view. If you want to retexture it, you can regarless of it being no-mod (at least all the ones I checked), you cant really edit the mesh itself, at most you can add or remove things, wich you can do even if it´s no-mod, by hiding parts and attaching mods.  I asked for specific situations, and I was answered, two people had issues with heads texturing effects (heads count as bodies I would asume).