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You know you're addicted to SL when...

There's a group called Nifty Names that has some good ones. But don't join unless you have a Nifty Name.

One of the "radio" related bots just visited me. [name of alleged bot redacted] can be added to the SDR list, if anyone is keeping such a list. EDIT: OK, never mind lol. I see now this thread serves no purpose.

SDR stands for "Software Defined Radio". It is basically a digital radio that samples radio frequencies digitally, vs the more conventional analog radios we are all used to. They are in common use these days in ham radio. I know this because I am a ham radio operator myself. I've noticed other avatar names related to RF ("Radio Frequency") that are associated with these bots. As I come across more of these radio-related names I will report them here.

Thank you. That's the important part that I missed.

I'm not sure that's right. Doesn't LL OWN everything that has been created and/or uploaded, instead of being licensed to LL by the creator? If so, since they own it, they really don't need any permissions from us. It seems that would also call into question what we could do about it if "our" intellectual property was scraped from SL and uploaded somewhere it shouldn't be. Since LL owns it, not us, wouldn't it have to be them taking any actions?

You could go to the SL website, change one of your alts to "scripted agent", then see if they can get to your region. Caveat: There may be a delay in setting the alt's scripted agent status and when it actually takes effect in world.

The wording of the official release says you can add whitelisted bots to the estate's allowed list, not the region's whitelist.

I can say for sure most of the large sailing estates have banned bots.

So are you saying that the estate company creates a NEW estate for each full-region renter? Because that is the only way what you are saying could be true. Otherwise, the full-region renters would have estate rights over every other region in that estate.

They can't -- it is all regions or none. They could create a different estate and move some regions to the new estate, then set one with deny_bots enabled and the other not enabled, but that could be just too much work.

This might be a point of confusion. Unless the "owner" is paying their tier directly LL, it might be less confusing to refer to the the other island owners as "private island renters".

Oh in that case, of course. I was basing this discussion on private regions (sometimes called private islands) purchased directly from LL with tier paid directly to them. In that case, the owner has full estate rights, including deny_bot.

Yes, that is correct. I didn't know you could own a region (meaning you are paying tier for it directly to LL) without it also being part of your own estate, but if that's the case just create your estate when you purchase your region from LL.

A private island (one region) is an estate also. So no problem there. As the estate grows and adds regions, as it stands now all those regions have to be denying bots or not. No mixture of the two, since it is an estate-level setting only.

There is no region setting, only an estate level setting. At least at this point in time.

It is still VERY confusing and distracting from the thread to respond to a question like ""Protect yourself from what?"" out of context, and answer it in a way that is not applicable to the original context. No one is accusing anyone of being a dummie.

You're still confused. He said "I'd wear a watch to tell me if a bot was near me". In my reply I asked "What would knowing if a bot was near you protect him from?" You then replied "Invasive practices". I then replied "Wearing a watch to know if a registered bot was near would in no way protect you from invasive practices." I can't spell it out for you any clearer than that.

That is the context of the post to which you were replying.

I'm sorry, but wearing a watch that informs you that a registered bot is near you in no way protects you from invasive practices.

Hmmm. Seems to me you'd have to get each bot to opt-in to your system in order for your system to be in compliance. Good luck with that! Otherwise the bot would AR you, lol. Before you know it, LL would need a team of bots at their headquarters in order to handle all the AR's coming in from in-world bots. Eventually, they would unite and become known as Skynet. Then, as you already know, humanity as we know it would cease to exist. All because of Phil's bots system!

You could, but you better not register it and you better not associate yourself with it. Otherwise you'll be burned at the stake. I guess that's what others here meant when stating the current implementation of bot control encourages non-compliance while punishing honest bot owners.

That's true, but there are many script calls that work only if the object or avatar you are trying to scrape data from is in the same region as the script.