[i cant delete the post]

What makes you confident enough to charge a even higher price tag than the already infamously expensive Legacy body? Maitreya does everything your body does and better, with the best clothing support, and it's 2500L.

To launch a product in a ridiculously saturated market with zero clothing support, you don't charge twice as much as competitors. That's not how marketing works. Why should people invest this much money when they can't even use it right now with zero clothing made for it?

[A friend or a pretender?]

3 hours ago, Nick0678 said:

If you are really looking for friends why does the friend have to be a male?

Same way as in RL our majority of Friends are people of the same gender as we are. Males have male friends and females have female friends.

When it comes to male / female friendships these things are to be expected.

Someone can make plenty of friends in SL especially when we are talking about women, have common activities together such as shopping and stuff like that which women like to do and normally would make a male feel bored.

I never said they have to be male. This one just happens to be male. Most of the friends who stayed on my list are female for this reason. It's rarer, but not exactly a phenomenal sight to get along with people of another gender. Also, I might not have worded it best, but there's a difference between liking me and wanting to develop a relationship (which is perfectly normal and I'm open to it), vs. simply wooing me for quick sex. He was the latter. There are various reasons I know this which I won't go into detail here to avoid more drama.

[A friend or a pretender?]

A few weeks ago I made a really great friend that I became really close with, and chatted for hours on everything from TV shows, languages to food and fashion. Then a week ago he started completely ignoring me, and a mutual friend told me the only reason he was trying to befriend me is to get in my panties, and stopped bothering after he found another sex buddy. Just another reason to stop making an effort to make friends here, as it's not the first time it happened, or even the 10th time, and certainly won't be the last. These assholes are experts at befriending people and wasting their time.

[What are some more of your pet peeves?]

On 8/23/2020 at 12:42 PM, Chroma Starlight said:

You could just put in your profile a list of all classes of people in the world that you intend to wrongfully discriminate against and then follow that up with a statement affirming that you feel you have no obligation as a human being or member of society to treat others well or be anything more than compulsively dedicated to your hatred of socially pluralistic neurodiversity. Allow me to earnestly suggest that you go and find for yourself a society of malice suitable to your special needs, but I suspect that may not be Second Life.

People who degrade the neurodivergent are another one of my pet peeves.

People like you who overcomplicate things, add that to my pet peeves as well. Who's the one sounding hateful now? I'm sure your post is very nice and polite eh? I literally just wrote all I meant is that I hate pointless conversations, learn to scroll up and read. English is not my first language so yes I may not have used the best word "autistic", I'm sorry if that offended people and their grandmothers. When people exclaim "that sounds retarded" do you people actually think they mean the person have the actual medical condition? I forgot how insanely sensitive this forum is when it comes to absolutely every damn thing and takes every word at face value.

Also explain to me why it has anything to do with you that I don't like to waste time with pointless conversations? If your logic holds are all vegetarians supposed to apologize to all meat-eaters whenever they eat? "Oh I'm sorry it offends you that I hate meat". Some people like you don't mind pointless conversations consisting of one emoji pasted 10 times, some people like me hate them, *****ing deal with it.

[What are some more of your pet peeves?]

11 minutes ago, halebore Aeon said:

Wait wait what, do you have an issue with having a conversation with Autstic people, or what is the deal?

You do realize it's a metaphor right? How would I know if they're autistic unless I'm their physician? I just don't have the patience to deal with pointless conversations like that with people who clearly have no intention in talking, yet decides to IM me anyways for some reason. I consider it a form of trolling. Yes they may actually be autistic but I'm here to have fun, not torture myself with people who are not worth my time. The example I gave isn't even the worst one, it usually goes something like this:

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[xx:xx] Random person: waves
[xx:xx] Me: o/
[xx:xx] Random person: \o

[xx:xx] Me: Um can I help you?

[xx:xx] Random person:

[xx:xx] Me: ...

[xx:xx] Random person: Hi

[xx:xx] Random person: o/

[xx:xx] Random person: \o

 

[Starting a Makeover Business]

I have never heard of someone needing to pay someone else 5k just to get a few tips on where to shop. This kind of thing barely even exists in RL, probably only billionaires have "outfit consultants". That's what friends + marketplace + google is for. If people are so clueless in what to wear they need to pay 5k for a style card then they probably shouldn't be playing SL aka dressup simulator.

[What are some more of your pet peeves?]

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[xx:xx] Random person: waves
[xx:xx] Me: o/
[xx:xx] Random person: \o

Conversations with autists like this. Don't IM if you have nothing to say, like are they expecting me to read their mind and start the conversation or something??

[Is Premium Worth It???]

On 7/11/2020 at 9:03 AM, MrBalloone said:

1. Your own private Linden Home
2. Linden dollar rewards
3. Exclusive virtual goods
4. Premium-only sandboxes
5. Live chat support
6. The right to own mainland parcels in popular areas
7. Immediate access to adult-only areas
8. Maximum number of group memberships increased from 42 to 70
9. Preferred access to highly populated regions, utilizing increased region capacity
10. Access to premium-only events and experiences
11. Voice morphing
12. Cap on missed instant messages increased from 15 to 80
13. L$ transaction history increased from 32 days to 90 days

1. If you're content with an ugly, tiny starter home then I guess so. If you plan to get a proper looking home then this is completely useless as you have zero modify rights to the linden home
2. The stipend offsets a bit of the premium cost I guess. You get ~$1USD of $L per week, do the math
3. This is a joke and pretty much 100% useless
4. This is also a joke and pretty much 100% useless as there are 500 other non-premium sandboxes you can go to that are 100% identical
5. If you plan to get your account hacked every other week, or is completely illiterate in technology and need remote access to install SL on your computer, then I guess this is useful. Otherwise why in the world would people expect tech support for a second life account? Firestorm viewer support group is literally 10x more useful than this as LL employees are pretty much clueless
6. Again useless unless you plain to actually own land in "popular areas", i.e. commercial sims not residential ones
7. What? You have immediate access to adult only areas as a non-premium as long as you have payment info on file, which you'd have as a premium cause you already paid money. I don't know wtf this one is talking about
8. One of the few actual useful benefits. As a non-premium, if you like dressing up, 42 slots will run out insanely quickly as every damn shop wants you to join their group
9. Absolutely useless. The only sims that will EVER have capped traffic are the monthly shopping events, which usually clear up within 1-2 days. SL is not at its prime anymore. This isn't WoW at launch where 50k players queue up to log in, don't kid yourself. There are also ways to get into these full sims as non-premium, just search around
10. Absolutely useless. I've been in SL for over 10 years and I have never heard of any "premium only events", or at least any that are worth attending. They're not exactly doing themselves a favour in terms of revenue if they limit their sim to premium only now are they?
11. I guess it's useful if you want to troll around
12. Unless you're the designer of an insanely popular shop, again absolutely useless. Even if you're a social butterfly you will not be getting that many IM's while you're offline, unless your friends are all idiots
13. Useless cause you can just export the list every month

Imo #8 is the only benefit I'd find useful, therefore premium is not worth it (for me). There are other benefits if you plan to own a shop or own land.

 

 

[Men's and not men's show pictures of your pictures]

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Men's and not men's

[Beautiful Xu]

Are you a foreigner trying to practice Chinese, or a Chinese born in another country? Either way feel free to drop me an IM, I can probably help as I'm a native speaker.

[Sellers, You Are Losing Sales Because of Timed Demos]

Or how about those demos with everything?

• 5min timer
• A dozen floating, rigged boxes with rotating watermarks
• No texture on the item itself, just has a solid white background with "demo" stamped over it a million times
• Anti-rez
• Only left shoe
• 1L demos cause they want to make a bit of profit on this. No it's not cause of that fake "you can't set it to 0L on vendor scripts" excuse, CasperVend clearly supports 0L, they simply don't want to set it to 0L

Gotta love those. Do creators seriously think people are gonna buy their stuff with demos like this? The lack of common sense is just astounding.

[Re-selling of Gacha Items]

Gacha is simply a money making scheme to make money off of gambling addicts, nothing more. That's why it's allowed as it generates more revenue for LL and the creators.

How many useful colours from a gacha item are there? Conservatively AT LEAST half of the items in a gacha are completely useless and no one will buy them. That means you have thousands of people trying to sell these useless items that will never get sold, and hundreds of people fighting over the "rares" which are always the useful items and jacking their prices wayyyyyy up.

Anyone who has any common sense knows it's cheaper to pay 200L for a useful colour of a dress without any kind of bullcrap RNG, than 1500L for the same dress at 75L a pull cause the drop rate of the colour you want (which is usually the rare one) is like what, 5%? Why would anyone do that? Compulsive gambling/hoarding is what it is, something I'll never take part in.

[Are creators doing themselves a favour by ignoring customers?]

2 minutes ago, Kyrah Abattoir said:

I feel your pain.

Theory here is that store manager account is actually the same person, they are just choosing when they are available for support during the day by switching account?

I tend to answer people whenever I can (thank god for IM to Email), even when I'm not online, but I don't think I have the sale volume the big stores have, so probably nowhere nearly as much customer support?

IMs may get lost but notecards won't, unless they simply block all notecards. If those don't work they still have that ticket system. If they ignore all 3 channels of communication then they're doing this on purpose and not because it was outside of their control, no other explanation. There are always ways to contact people in SL no matter how "busy" they are, it simply depends on if the person cares enough to want to listen.

[Are creators doing themselves a favour by ignoring customers?]

I bought a couple of items from this particular store a few weeks ago, and two of them had defective HUDs (textures not set up properly in the script). I sent in no less than five IM's/notecards/support tickets (cause they even built a website to process these) within a span of 2 weeks, with all the details including screenshots. Most of the time their "store manager", if they can even be called that, was online. I never received a single response, not even an acknowledgement that "they're looking into it". This makes me wonder:

• Why do you bother hiring these "customer service reps"/"store managers"?
• Why do you bother creating a website for support tickets, if they go straight to the trash bin?
• I spent money to buy your product, and the HUD is defective, essentially making 90% of the product useless. You don't feel that it's your responsibility to spend literally <5min to fix this? As a scripter myself I know how easy it is to fix UUID-based texture HUDs, so no it doesn't take "days and weeks"

I won't even dare to imagine what would happen if I sent in a question about the product, or some minor complaint, those probably aren't even worth their trash bin. So eventually I just gave up and accepted my losses, and marked the end of setting foot in that store, which I guess the store owner doesn't give a single crap about as they've got a thousand others buying their stuff. Unfortunately this has been my experience with MOST owners of "large" stores in SL. Usually it's the small-time stores that have the friendly creators, some I even managed to have pleasant chats with. The excuse is always "oh we're too busy to answer customer questions". That's why you had time to hire a store manager and build a website? I really don't know what kind of message they're trying to send across here. "We're spending all this effort and money to make it look like your concerns are heard, but really we couldn't give less of a *****"?

Honestly I don't get why my experience as a chronic shopper in SL is so bad and why most shop owners are always so hostile or indifferent toward customers who're funding their stores. I have better experiences on Amazon/Ebay/AliExpress for crying out loud, and those shop owners have 10x the amount of workload as these SL creators, yet 99% of the time I always leave with a satisfied purchase? It's ridiculous. Is it because people are depending on this as their main RL source of income and aren't earning enough? LL being overprotective of creators and has zero protection of customers (e.g. regularly deleting negative reviews on marketplace and offering zero protection against scams)? They're sick of idiotic people asking them dumb questions like "how to unpack the box"? Combination of all?

[Hi]

It's nice to see someone offering to a place and activity to meet new people. What is DFS plants? And fishing server? Never heard of these. Guess I'm too absorbed in the fashion side of SL.

[Seeking friends, or at the very least a good conversation!]

Sometimes introverted people cross the line and become rude. You can be introverted and still be very polite, positive and cheery/fun-loving, yet most of the "introverts" I've had the misfortune of coming into contact with are simply rude, creepy or boring af. I'm an introvert myself so I share almost all the difficulties you have, refer my thread next to yours. For example if I message someone something funny or a compliment as an icebreaker, an introvert I'd want to be friends with would return the compliment or continue the joke, just out of basic manners. A rude one I wouldn't want to waste my breath on would reply with something like "ok" or "lolwut", completely ignore me or even tell me to go away. I'm kind of easily offended and easily burnt out by rude people, which is why I no longer message people as often as I used to cause the unfortunate fact is the people you want to be friends with is always a microscopic fraction of the people you see standing around.

[Maitreya Petite is here!]

Legacy/TMP whenever there's an update to a part of the body: let's release an entirely new body and force everyone to pay FULL price even though 90% of the mesh stays the same! New feet, shoulders, waist, boobs, butts? That'll be 5000 x 5 please

Maitreya: Since it's just an update to a part of the body let's release an add-on, cause that's literally what it is. Since people already spent 2500 on our body, let's not be complete dicks and ask people to pay another 2500 for a partial update

This is why I'll never buy any TMP/Legacy product unless they're HEAVILY discounted, I'm talking about at least 50% off, even then I'll hesitate a lot cause of their completely idiotic server-side HUD system which goes against pretty much every UX rule in existence. Maitreya also recently gave out a fatpack of heels as a group gift iirc. The only thing I don't like about Maitreya is how strict she is with the rigging weights kit, forcing a lot of people to guess the weights or use "unofficial" weights, causing a lot of clipping with clothes, though to be fair Legacy/TMP is even worse in this regard as they literally don't hand out the weights kit AT ALL besides their "trusted" few stores. Besides that, Maitreya's easily one of the most-liked creators in SL.

[Why is it so difficult making friends here?]

5 hours ago, Caroline Takeda said:

Well,

For YOU it is a place to explore your fun side.

Others might be there for business, or to explore their creativity, to learn somthing or to explore sexual kinks.
An example: If someone would walk into my SL office whilst I do a sales presentation to a potential advertiser and turns it into some kind of slapstick comedy, I would hit the eject button.

There are many reasons to be in SL and they do not have to match yours.

Each to his own.

 

I don't walk into businesses to make friends lol... that's kind of common sense? I'm talking about trying to make friends in SOCIAL sims, like clubs. Imo humour is kind of mandatory to maintain friendships. I don't want someone who has zero sense of humour and always speaks to me like a professor as a friend.

[Why is it so difficult making friends here?]

3 hours ago, Adamburp Adamczyk said:

tbh, with so many boring "hi hru" kind of messages, it does get monotonous.  Personally, I favour a far more silly approach, silly stuff like "/me sneaks up and yells oompappa ommppapa that's how it goes, oompapa ooompap everyone knows, and legs it".

 

I've made some good friends like this, of course the flip side is those without a sense of humour ^^

Yeah I prefer those kinds of whimsical conversations as well, but it's SO RARE to find someone with a whimsical side like us. I mean SL of all places should be a place to explore your fun side, but no, 90% of people I had the displeasure of interacting with sound like my university professor. So damn serious, formal, boring. I try to inject some humour into the conversation and they just stare at me like I'm some kind of freak. At that point it's hard to resist giving them the middle finger and just walk off.

[Why is it so difficult making friends here?]

48 minutes ago, Arielle Popstar said:

Though not lacking in friends I have met over the years that are still active, I was a little curious why I was never approached when I was at clubs and venues while out on my own. Like you I spend quite a bit of time shopping, dressing and adjusting for the best possible looks with good bodies and heads. A few months ago I logged in with an old alt account that I had never updated to mesh and since I didn't want to spend a lot on it, I purchased a 300L$ KG complete mesh avatar with clothes and hair. It's a cute look but not the best of quality. I took it out to a couple clubs and to my surprise was almost immediately getting swamped with complimentary IM's and just friendly chats. It happened on more then a few occasions and just as a test, I would log out of the alt account and log back in with my regular account and would get nothing.

I talked to a few friends about it asking why they thought there was such a difference and most put it down to that the cheap avatar just seemed more approachable because of its imperfections. Since then I have toned down a few of my main account's outfits and started to get a little more interaction.

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who thinks that! I thought it was the weirdest trend I noticed in SL. Maybe due to how "high quality" our avatars look, it might actually appear as intimidating or people who, for a lack of a better word, don't meet that standard? I also noticed if I dress up too fancy, like in a fantasy-themed outfit or something, I get way less IMs and people seem to be more indifferent to my IMs, compared to if I'm just dressed in a top, shorts and heels. Additionally it's really sad that I get way more IMs if I look more... "western", i.e. slightly darker skin, blonde/brown hair, very American/European clothing, etc. The moment I switch to my paler skin, black or anime-ish hair, and chic Asian-style outfit, which is the look I identify with, people seem to not like it much anymore, some even going as far as tell me I look weird.

People say you should be unique in SL and stay true to your identity, but too bad most people only seem to like a very specific type of look.

[Why is it so difficult making friends here?]

21 minutes ago, Bagnu said:

I have 193 friends so far. If you are into the Adult community I would be happy to introduce you to some!!! IM me when your inworld!!! And we DO sit around and chat about things other than sex!!!

That's interesting, what are some of the things you discuss in these adult communities? It's kinda easy to equate "adult" with "sex" in SL cause at least that's what every adult sim is about. I'm unable to find you in-world however since your profile is hidden from the search engine.

[Looking for 20-30 y/o friends!]

I'm around your age and love shopping too, in addition to spending a ridiculous amount of time on my avatar. Though I have other interests too as there's only so much you can talk about related to fashion. Your profile mentions "only here for the fashion", not sure if that's an exaggeration.

[Anybody want to chat with me?]

On 7/25/2020 at 11:05 AM, KareenCruxion said:

All kinds of art. I like everything! From painting to pottery. Writing is also an art too, so that should count. I wouldn't say I'm the best artist out there, but I most enjoy looking at works other people create. I used to go to Museums a lot in RL to go to special exhibits & art galleries.

That's right up in my alley. One of my favourite subreddits is r/artisanVideos, and pottery's one of my favourite crafts. I also sketch/paint IRL, sing, play the piano and sometimes compose too. As for museums, I'm the type who'd prefer a stroll in a museum as opposed to a stroll in a park! Such an art/history nerd. I'd love to meet you in-world!

[Why is it so difficult making friends here?]

15 hours ago, Jordan Whitt said:

I agree that it's hard to make friends.  I've tried going places, being more active here, even joining AVMatch and approaching people there....nada.  I guess I am destined to be a workaholic hermit loner forever sorting my inventory on my skypad.

Sounds like me, especially the last part cause I'm a complete shopoholic and spend way too much time dressing up. Never thought it's hard to not be a loner in a social sim...

5 hours ago, Orwar said:

   I'm just picky when it comes to people at all. I assume the majority of people I come across aren't worthwhile, and just cherry-pick my way through it, judging people by various factors such as how they talk, how they look, what they say, what's in their profile, whether we have any common interests, etc. I'm an introvert, so what little social energy I have I'd rather spend with people who don't make me want to slap some sense into their heads, or send them back to grammar school. If I see someone who appears interesting, I'll give them a nudge and see what happens - if there's nothing interesting about an avatar or the contents of their profile, I'll just move along.

   I don't think I ever really went looking for friends in SL though, I just pursue my own interests and bump into people along the way. I abhor clubbing and 'social hangouts', they reek of desperation and are almost always crawling with degenerate creeps, like maggots in roadkill. 

I used to be picky because my standards are rather high (both for myself and others). I have very specific taste in things especially music/movies and of course fashion. I used to be the type who don't really continue a conversation if I dislike their look, or dislike something in their profile. However obviously that didn't work out  (otherwise there wouldn't be a rant here) so I tried "lowering my standards" to be more open to more types of people, but that didn't work out either. I wish I was lucky like you to simply pursue my interests and bump into friendly people... but SL doesn't really have many places like that, it kind of revolves around either shopping, or clubs.

1 hour ago, Ren Toxx said:

I don’t ‘make’ friends, I let it happen naturally. I don’t deviate an inch from what I’d otherwise do: go to populated areas, see what they do, join if & when I want. If I visit often, little by little I see whom I like, and who likes me. I talk more with them, do more stuff. At some point there’s effectively a friendship; sometimes it’s reflected in my Friends list, sometimes it isn’t—by that point, they already know that’s the last thing I concern myself with, and that if they fuss about it, it’s less likely to happen.

Point is, sometimes if you try too hard, you start doing things that effectively hamper the friendship without realizing it. Maybe you don’t act naturally and some sense it, or act as something you aren’t— and next day when your supposed (potential) ‘friend’ talks to you again and finds the real ‘you’, it’s not what they hoped. Could be lots of things; all because you tried making it happen.

So, don’t try. Do your thing, let friendship find you. Yes, you may get a few less nominal ‘friends’ that way, but they’ll be truer ones. And you won’t have to do anything you wouldn’t otherwise do, so it certainly won’t be ‘hard’ 😉

If I raise my standards then I'll find even less people, because what I'm doing right now is relaxing my filters and being more open to different types of people, even ones I'm not particularly fond of. "Letting friendship find you" is easier said than done, cause SL revolves around shopping, dancing, and sex clubs pretty much. I would love to find populated hangouts catered to my 900 other interests, but pretty much every other sim is dead.

 

Also, as mentioned above this is an alt. I've been on SL for a very long time, so I'm not trying to make like 50 friends within a month or something. Tbh I'd be happy just to have like ~10 active friends... which sounds sad yes, cause I only have like 3-4 active friends atm who are all in other timezones. =.=

[Why is it so difficult making friends here?]

14 hours ago, Bagnu said:

Try going places where people share your interests. It shouldn't be hard. I have friends from all over the world. Did you go to adult sims or more general ones???  Your profile pic does look very young though. If you use that as an AV it could be an issue. 

This is an alt I use for building and testing.