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37 minutes ago, Silent Mistwalker said:

Try it and find out. I bet LL will come down on it hard. That's LL's money people would be taking. 

Glad you agree with me, nobody else chimed in with an opinion yet (unless I missed it).

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8 minutes ago, Istelathis said:

Think of it more of like an arcade

Exactly what they are called in my part of Florida: "Arcades". 

"Casinos" are something completely different.

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15 minutes ago, Coffee Pancake said:

This is a trap for people with addiction issues.

Aren't the "AFK" / "SLex" establishments similar traps for people with "other types" of addiction issues (not gambling)?

ETA: I caught that I almost wrote "addition issues".  But we already know that LL is bad at maths.

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21 minutes ago, Silent Mistwalker said:

LL calls it Virtual Land in the ToS.

https://www.lindenlab.com/legal/second-life-terms-and-conditions

I can't tell from the TOS you copied if what Skyler proposed is OK or not:  Paying other residents to trade Linden Premium homes.

In that context, does it matter what it's called?  I probably don't know what you meant.

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Maybe LL should consider combining some of the recent tech features and fads with the Social Casino:

- Social Casino

- ChatGPT: Use an AI for the Casino staff to chat with users

- VR: Add a VR interface for the Casino

- NFT: Add NFT's for prizes (just so long as you don't call them "gachas")

- Mobile: Do this all on a Mobile viewer / App interface

Not sure if I missed anything..

 

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19 minutes ago, Qie Niangao said:

It may be that there's some dissent in the ranks about this. It burned significant opportunity cost from several parts of the organization to get this thing on the grid. You can be sure Legal spent some time on it, to say nothing of the Moles and whoever built and programmed the slots and gaming tables. Maybe there are more sophisticated gaming devices on the grid—I have no idea, but folks seem to think so—and maybe some gaming regions have carpeting with more casino-caliber tackiness, but still this was not an overnight production.

Somebody in power thought it was a good idea but I bet others bit their tongue the whole time they were required to work on it.

(As others already observed, this has the get-rich-quick scent of that "SL does NFT" scheme from a couple techbro fads ago. When you're a star an owner, they let you do it.)

At least (from what I understand) LL seemed to use generic-seeming Casino machines, ATM's, etc. - meaning, they did not have to create a lot of new "technical infrastructure" for this (except the "token system"). 

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Speaking of sponsorship, Lindens / Moles and Fundraising, just saw this. Is bald "ick"? 
 

 

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1 hour ago, Alwin Alcott said:

is that really bad, or just our learned non naturral morals?

Having tried strip poker once, I highly recommend it to anyone!

Bonus: It is a very social card game.

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1 hour ago, Istelathis said:

I shouldn't be telling others how to spend their money, but then I don't want to see the whales beaching themselves.

 

I am reminded of a "button" / bumper sticker saying from the early 80's: "Nuke Santa Claus and Feed Him to the Whales"!

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1 hour ago, Rowan Amore said:

I tagged LL and Patch early on in this thread trying to get a response...any response...from anyone.   Perhaps the debate is still ongoing as to whom they're going to throw under the bus on this one.  😁

Maybe we're not..annoying enough!

 

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Some touring in my San Francisco scene..

 

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10 minutes ago, Skyler Pancake said:

I'd offer more, but my wallet is still recovering from Fantasy Faire. I'm looking forward to taking my new bus for a ride soon!

It's fine, a) I believe you wouldn't "bet L$" if you weren't certain, and b) if you were wrong someone would have jumped in to say so by now.  That's how our Forum works, everyone pitches in!

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4 minutes ago, Skyler Pancake said:

Find somewhere in the TOS that it even mentions Linden Homes and I'll pay you 5000L$.

Cheapskate! 

I believe you, I am just surprised.

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7 minutes ago, Kimmi Zehetbauer said:

Here's another theory: Wonder if the Lindens put the casino up to give us something to talk about on the boards? 

Good one! We mostly seem to stay on topic, except for some arguments about Gachas, and whether the Casino is "gambling" or not.  IMHO, whether the Casino is "ethical" is on topic because, the OP is comparing Gachas (supposebly unethical) to the Casino (supposebly ethical).

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10 minutes ago, Ceka Cianci said:

I don't think LL is going to do anymore than G rated things..

Yes, and.."G" rated can also lead to "ick".

Let's sponsor a "Back to School" Fundraiser! A "Toys for Tots" Campaign!  A "Shriner's Parade" in support of Free Children's Hospitals!

Anything to do with "kids" can be spoiled / ruined, because SL. 

And "G" rating in the US is usually reserved for "Movies for the Whole Fam Damnly!"

Sowwy, cynical Lion is cynical.

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6 minutes ago, Rowan Amore said:

Honestly, I'm finding it rather odd, if not somewhat telling, that not one single peep have we heard from any Mole or Linden in either of these threads relating to this topic.  Not a slap or a warning or even a gentle poke.  It's been a week now and nothing...anywhere...at all.  🤔

I assume they are softly sobbing, or backing away slowly from those responsible, or quietly watching since our opinions and discussions in this case..actually..matter.

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2 minutes ago, Persephone Emerald said:

I'm just thinking here, but I think stip poker for charity or stripper pole Moles would be bad too.

mumble mumble mumble Patch mumble mumble!

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3 minutes ago, Marigold Devin said:

To Love, the Kiss-a-Linden booths they used to have at Isle of View on Valentines used to be fun/funny, but understandably they changed all that malarkey to dunk-a-Linden booths (I think you can still hug 'em though). 

Most old-time Fairs had both "kissing booths" and "dunking booths".  But in RL there's not many "kissing booths" anymore, I think.

I always like the memes / videos where there's a RL dog working at the "kissing booth"!

I think what we need is a "Psychiatric Help 5c" booth like Lucy had in Peanuts!

Bonus story: In junior high school, the school held a "sock hop" (during school hours!) where girls chased boys and kissed them, leaving them with lipstick marks.  I didn't get chased or kissed. I remember one "nerd" who did!  But today, that would definitely be ick.  ("Kids grow up too fast these days.")

Speaking of "ick", I've been thinking for awhile that the Helios Social Casino seemed like it was designed on a "Bring Your Kids to Work Day"..by the Kids! But back on topic, if LL sponsored a "bring your kids to SL day", that would DEFINITELY be "ick".

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I'd probably draw the line at a "kissing booth" at a Fair. 

Anything beyond that, and LL will be sponsoring "AFK" Telethons for charity.

Probably not OK with a "Nude Beach" unless it is like, for something similar to "World Nude Gardening Day", etc.

I thought LL already sponsored a Casino..ok, owns and advertises as Casino.

Adoption agencies are too close to "Prim Baby" nonsense.

Unfortunately, "Pet Adoption" could be weird really fast, too.  Maybe if they were some kind of "AI Shoulder Pets".

Ooh! A Mole and Linden "Auction" at a Fair (for charity), seems like something that could happen. Not for an "actual date", just for "bragging rights".

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At the club in my San Francisco scene. 

Bonus: Took the time to edit so my fangs show, finally!

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36 minutes ago, Jenny Ashland said:

Its obviously something temporary that somehow attaches to the avatar without being seen and without permission.

Perhaps it is part of some Experience? A "Spammy" Spam-blocker Experience helper?

Quistess's suggestion is more likely.

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18 hours ago, Lucia Nightfire said:

Showbiz Pizza

Fun Fact: Founded by Nolan Bushnell, co-founder of Atari.

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3 hours ago, diamond Marchant said:

Yes. But the question is not "could we build this thing?", rather, it is "will it be competitive?" 

I think they totally skipped over the question of, "SHOULD we build this thing?"

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1 minute ago, Silent Mistwalker said:

From out of left field comes the weirdo with the strange ideas.

What if (lol) this is nothing more than a test for something LL is selling to/developing for Sansar. Or even a separate grid/continent for such things. 🤔

I did say left field, weird and strange.

That would be nice, if as a result it doesn't stink up OUR SL / Grid!

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23 minutes ago, diamond Marchant said:

In retrospect, I misundersood the term "social casino" , thinking it meant "community",

Hmm...in RL, one often goes "to the Casino" with friends..

* Edit * I mean, if one HAS friends..so I've heard..