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    So what changed in the Terms of Service?

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    1 minute ago, Arielle Popstar said:

    What would constitute public proof for you?

    We are not owed public proof.

    Nobody should see any details or "proof" about anyone else's violations. That would be a major infringement on their privacy.

    If YOU got an AR because of some shenanigans, would YOU want everyone else to know about it?  "Oh, Arielle got an AR again for soliciting in a Moderate area", etc.

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    So what changed in the Terms of Service?

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    4 minutes ago, Arielle Popstar said:
    20 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said:

    ..focusing on just the EU OR the US OR any other country doesn't work in my opinion, sorry. I disagree. 

    I'll just stop replying. 🙂

     

    a*eplay does seem to be illegal even in the US though and they are highly sensitive about that here in SL. That goes more into the textual then graphic though so it would be interesting to hear what the US laws say about textual p*rnograhy.

    My point, poorly explained by me is usual, is that if the TOS had specific info on it to address specific laws in any particular country, that does not seem correct to me.

    Instead, create a generic TOS that addresses the issues but do not reference any laws or terminology which are country-specific (could be interpreted differently in each country depending on the laws in that country). That APPEARS to be what was done.

    Adding references to "obscenity" would create the problem that obscenity is defined differently in different countries.

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    So what changed in the Terms of Service?

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    5 minutes ago, Kathlen Onyx said:

    Also SL doesn't advertise anywhere that I've seen that Roleplaying a child is a thing. Why would they create an avatar to promote it? 

    Playing devil's advocate, possibilities include: 1) Because competitors do, 2) Mobile users will want/need it, 3) Look! A new avatar!

    In reality, I think LL is a little smarter than that. Just a little.

     

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    So what changed in the Terms of Service?

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    1 minute ago, Kathlen Onyx said:

    Trust me, the way some of these kids are decked out with their clothes and animations and gestures...they spend a lot of money.

    They certainly SAY they do in this thread, and I believe them. 

    It would be far too unnecessarily dramatic to make up that someone spent "hundreds" or "thousands" of dollars on their child avatar, if it was not true.

    The new ToS and something I don't think was taken into consideration by LL.

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    6 minutes ago, Qie Niangao said:

    If they don't get it to handle 2K textures Real Soon Now, BoM will be two generations behind standard practice for content, and skin creators are not going to wait forever when appliers can let them have it all at any time.

    WOW I missed that (I don't keep up with the creation stuff, just scripting) - BOM doesn't support as high a resolution as appliers?

    So what changed in the Terms of Service?

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    Just now, Flower Caerndow said:

    If you are a fan of Japanese manga cartoons, you know some of it is of a highly sexual or erotic nature. Still, it’s just a cartoon, right? Not necessarily — at least, not in the eyes of the law.

    Others have already applied that at least in some definitions, it only applies for "realistic depictions".  Do you find Japanese manga depictions "realistic"?

    So what changed in the Terms of Service?

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    2 minutes ago, ErwinVonVlotho said:
    8 minutes ago, Kathlen Onyx said:

    Only if it depicts real children. I already posted a link  that states it is not against the law however, I did say I thought it was going to be soon. Right now it's classified under free speech.

    It is against the law in many other countries, though, and it's well known that the EU sees massive fines imposed on US tech companies as a useful source of extra income.

    I don't see how the TOS could contain definitions that only apply in some countries.

    So what changed in the Terms of Service?

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    4 minutes ago, Indy Melody said:

    Part of my reason for suggesting the replacing that would be that if someone has been away from SL for many years as a child avatar and decides to return, they might not be fully aware of this new change and would log in and find old child avatar is gone but they have one they can use.

    "Have one they can use" is relative:

    - Would the replacement body be "wearing" some existing clothing based on an old outfit? Would that clothing fit the new body?  If not, would it "work" with any of the user's existing clothing at all?

    - Would the replacement body be replaced in inventory complete with any "attachments" that were on the old body? Would those attachments work with the new body, or would it be a mess?

    - Would the replacement body support the same Skins as the previous body (whether BOM or applier), and rez with those Skins - or would everyone with the replacement body have a default Skin?

    - Would the replacement body work with any animations in the user's previous AO's, or just work for default animations?

     

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    So what changed in the Terms of Service?

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    Just now, Alwin Alcott said:

    they would log in and first have to accept the new TOS... just accepting without reading wouldnt get them of the hook for not knowing.

    Or "not understanding", my point suggesting that "real children / teens" certainly couldn't comprehend / follow and wouldn't care anyway.

    Luckily, this thread and the resulting clarified FAQ's will come to the rescue!

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    A Discussion: Being "Kind" when Responding in Second Life (and Forums)

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    3 hours ago, archangel969 said:
    On 5/5/2024 at 9:25 AM, Love Zhaoying said:

    Thanks for all of your advice. If you have anything to contribute, let us know.

    And if there is anything you like to discusss or there are things that concerns you, I am always open for discussion. And if you find it hard to discuss things, you can send me a privat message. I am very open minded and open to any discussion. Also if you don't agree with me. That doesn't change the way I look at people. People may differ in opinion.

    That's cool. Even if you did not understand what I really meant. 🙂

     

    So what changed in the Terms of Service?

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    Posted · Edited by Love Zhaoying
    Removed apostraphe

    2 minutes ago, Kathlen Onyx said:

    I only laughed at this because you are suggesting that they actually make an avatar to replace the ones they take away when they can't even put a simple picture up of what the modesty panel should look like?

    Good luck with that.

    They'd probably look about like Kupras. IJS.

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    So what changed in the Terms of Service?

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    1 minute ago, Flower Caerndow said:
    3 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said:

    Not easily defined in today's society, depending on where you live.

    If you bothered to look at the links you would see that in the US federal law says that child pornography is obscene.

    It's not that I would not "bother", it's that you could have provided some context as to what we would expect to find, and not just links.  Did you? Otherwise, why would anyone go read what was at the links? 

    🙂

     

    So what changed in the Terms of Service?

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    6 minutes ago, Kathlen Onyx said:
    47 minutes ago, BilliJo Aldrin said:

    nope, ALL profiles must be rated G, because everyone can see everyones profile. I’d post a link to the TOS, but I’m on my phone and don’t know how 😂

    Well then, 3/4 of the SL community is violating the TOS.

    What kind of smut are people PUTTING in their profiles?!?

    Preferences for sexual position?

    Prices for different "services"?

    RL nude pics?

    Unlike "AR'ing" leading to "banning", all LL would need to do for that kind of violation is just blank out the user's profile with a warning, and send an email.

    Comparing "profile content" with "child roleplay including [redacted]" is a false comparison.

    Not every "AR-able" offense is a "ban-able" offense. (Tired of saying that, but it's still true.)

     

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    So what changed in the Terms of Service?

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    6 minutes ago, Arielle Popstar said:

    I remember all your postings of your problems with just being allowed back on those regions. You're a poster child example of how easy it is to get on the wrong side of virtual policing here. Now you trying to tell me its no big deal? It certainly seemed to be at the time and many people in the forum agreed with you.

    True dat, if "Not Fair" was a T-shirt, it would be a T-shirt with Sid Nagy on it saying, "This isn't a party!"

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