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  1. 29 minutes ago, Aethelwine said:

    2nd section... that is where we differ. You see the cup half empty by focusing on the Lutheran Priest that was the exception, rather than the cup half full (or more accurately not very far off being full) of the religions standing together in unity.  Sometimes cynicism is justified, it certainly protects you from disappointment if you set your expectations so low that they will be exceeded, but a cynical view is not an objective one... You focus on the exception rather than trend to form your opinion.

    Well said!

  2. 1 hour ago, Luna Bliss said:

    I go more for the spirituality that involves Mysticism (the core or essence), and there are elements of Mysticism in most religions, accepted or rejected in varying degrees. I've learned various things from orienting myself in this way, but someone you're labeling as "faithless" can just as easily perceive these things because nobody is excluded from a journey of growth or evolution in consciousness.

    Me too! In fact, my Hindu guru talks about this EXACT THING!!

  3. 12 minutes ago, Klytyna said:

    Oh I understand religions all too well, it's why I have refused to join any of them, all my life., and why I never will.
     

    What I don’t understand is this:

    1) I explained that SOME Hindus embrace other religions. I am saying it again now.

    2) I explained that SOME Christians  (I used the word “ecumenical”) dialogue interfaith (between different Christian faiths) and with other non-Christian religions. I am saying it again now.

    Yet: you steadfastly claim I am saying the opposite. How will you twist my words this time?

     

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  4. 1 hour ago, Klytyna said:

    No, Evangelicals are the ones who tell you all brands of Skydaddyism are wrong except theres, and that you should join immediately, Ecumenicals are the ones who tell you that all brands of Skydaddyism are the same , deep deep down, because theres some universal something they all share and the differences are just silly misunderstandings we can resolve if we all hug and make up.

    If ecumenicals didn't believe in some shared commonality between the different cults, so 'deep ultimate truth' or whatever, what would be the point in being an ecumenical, if theres no shared something, what is the point in trying to accommodate faiths that you 'knew' to be 'wrong', because they were different to your ''right' faith? Unless it was some cynical attempt at appeasment, you know, "these foreign devils pray the wrong way and are beyond saving but lets pretend we believe their gibberish has merit so they will like us".

    Ah, so now there is some attempt at 'universal', do make up your mind, it's hard to pin down exactly what you think there is in this universal ecumenical non-ecumenicalism that is in anyway worthy of anyone wasting time on it.

    I commented that monotheistic cults tend to wards non-tolerance or other rival cults, you told me I was wrong, and now here you are quoting wikipedia, who apparently agree with me... And you think this is 'educating me' do you, telling me what I had already pointed out. I'd laugh but you're not very funny.

    No, I do it because some overpaid undertalented web monkey decided it would be 'hella kewl' to make the forum use grey text on a pure white background, in a small and unpleasant font. But thank you for your pretentious pseudo intellectual Ass-umption.
     

    Once again you misconstrue everything. Even the Wikipedia quote. Well, I’ve got other stuff to do. Have fun in your misunderstandings! 

    *Edit* Some people just don’t even try to understand.

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  5. 3 minutes ago, Klytyna said:

    Ecumenicals get so pissy when you tell them not to hold their breath while they wait for that to happen, or dare to suggest that historically, the Religions not only don't hug each other, and won't hug each other, but deep down, don't WANT to get along.

    I think you confuse ecumenicals with evangelicals. Your earlier statement about Ecumenicals believing there is a “one true” something is wrong also - except “ecumenical” usually implies Christian. Here, we are getting deeper. Inter-faith. More universal. NOT JUST CHRISTIAN. See, I have to use all caps because you don’t read very well. I assume you always write in bold because you think other people can’t read well.

      Even Wikipedia says “[some Christian churches are] strongly opposed to ecumenical (more accurately, interfaith) dialogue with non-Christian religions and with denominations it identifies as cults.”

      There, now you know somethin’. 

  6. 57 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said:
    58 minutes ago, Theresa Tennyson said:

    Some Hindus maintain that Jesus was an avatar of Vishnu, who has a long history of "playing charades with a box of joke shop novelty costumes."

    Also, that same "Christ Consciousness" aka the "Holy Spirit" is the same between ALL religions.  There is only one Spirit, there is only one Presence. You get the picture.

    If a certain someone could read IN CONTEXT, they would see that I was continuing Theresa’s statement regarding what SOME HINDUS believe regarding the connections between all religions. A certain someone has not achieved a high enough level of reading comprehension.

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  7. 2 minutes ago, Klytyna said:


     

     

    The expression "is the same in ALL religions" certainly implies that he is claiming that ALL religions share this belief in a "Christ Consciousness/Holy Spirit", not just his particular brand of "Ecumenical Monotheistic Hinduism", it also implies that he believes that ALL religions are in fact the worship of ONE deity, which is part of his system of belief. 

    Realistically the "your religions are just you doing my Religion badly" is a long way from his hope for Religious Tolerance, don't you think?

    Further... Statements to the effect that your religion is prepared to accept a rival religions deity as part of it's pantheon, does NOT make you a member of the rival religion, especially when the tennets of the rival religion specifically exclude accepting your religion at all.

    It's like claiming that saying "Chris Rock is a very funny & talented comic" makes you an Honorary African American.
     

    Your terrible misquotes out of context are not worth refuting. You persistently misconstrue and project. Next!

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  8. 13 minutes ago, Gadget Portal said:

    That could certainly be a debate worth having, things like how much and to what extent, and so on, sure.

    I just wanted to play devil's advocate and say that if we're not careful, the pendulum will swing too far in the other direction. Gotta find the balance.

    If only there were reparations, in the 1870’s when it should have happened. So much pain and suffering since then, impossible to calculate.

  9. 4 minutes ago, Theresa Tennyson said:

    Love was saying that the group or philosophy they were a member of believed that, not that all religions did.

    Thanks. Watch out, she’s gonna blow! :S While Hinduism is viewed by the West as “polytheistic”, my branch is “non-dualistic monotheism”. (There is only one God, and we are not separate from God.)

  10. 1 minute ago, Tari Landar said:
    5 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said:

    "When arguing with a 3 year-old, you have to lower yourself to a 3 year-old's level."

    3 year olds are pretty intelligent lil creatures! Even they know when arguing their perceived position may be an exercise in futility...sometimes they listen to that still small voice of reasoning ;) 

    Perhaps "two year-old's" would have been more appropriate.

  11. 5 minutes ago, Klytyna said:

    So how does that work... You pray to the One True God as a Monotheist on Sundays, and sit through sermons about the dangers of Heathen polytheist devil cults, then spend the rest of the week praying to the assorted pagan deities...

    A Part Time Christian?

    Or do you claim that all those Hindu deities are in fact actually Jesus, playing charades with a box of joke shop novelty costumes?

    Pathetic pseudo intellectual delusions of Ecumenical superiority. Now THAT is depressing, you follow two mutually exclusive religions, and get them both wrong.

    I'm certain you would try to argue with me if I explained it to you. Your insults are directly in line with most of your posts on this forum. I think that I've had enough arguing with 3 year-olds for one day.

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