Controlling IM

[LadyElisa1]

Hi..  is it possible to Control and read  IM's for a sub. ?

I know you can block it in collars, but is it possible for a Mistress/Master to see who the IMs are from (or too)  or also read them ?

 

Thanks in advance  :)) 

[Madelaine McMasters]

Nope, it's not possible. Doing so would be a violation of the Second Life Community Standards.

Here's the applicable clause...

 

Disclosure

Residents are entitled to a reasonable level of privacy with regard to their Second Life experience. Sharing personal information about your fellow Residents without their consent -- including gender, religion, age, marital status, race, sexual preference, alternate account names, and real-world location beyond what is provided by them in their Resident profile -- is not allowed. Remotely monitoring conversations in Second Life, posting conversation logs, or sharing conversation logs without the participants' consent are all prohibited.

You may have obtained permission from your sub to monitor, but you have not obtained permission from the third parties s/he communicates with.

[Sassy Romano]

Furthermore, monitoring "chat" I.e. channel 0 is not permitted as per the terms, despite some products that relay it. Public chat still forms a conversation that shall not be remotely monitored. The only products that would comply would be ones that relay only the text said by the monitored subject and not include anything received back.

 

That makes for a pretty dull read.

[Perrie Juran]

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Sassy Romano wrote:

Furthermore, monitoring "chat" I.e. channel 0 is not permitted as per the terms, despite some products that relay it. Public chat still forms a conversation that shall not be remotely monitored. The only products that would comply would be ones that relay only the text said by the monitored subject and not include anything received back.

 

That makes for a pretty dull read.

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I would love to hear a definitive answer from LL on this.

I know it's been discussed endlessly and I am not trying to resurect a dead horse here.

Just that it still comes up from time to time.

 

[Freya Mokusei]

This would be allowed under Community Standards:-

default{    state_entry()    {         llListen(0,"","","");    }    listen(integer channel, string name, key id, string message)    {        llSay(0,name + ": " + message);    }}

 This would not be allowed under Community Standards:-

default{    state_entry()    {         lIListen(0,"","","");    }    listen(integer channel, string name, key id, string message)    {        lIInstantMessage(llGetOwner(),name + ": " + message);    }}

 It's remote relaying which is disallowed - sending chat to uninvolved parties (such as those off-sim, via IM). Simply relaying inside LSL (via link message or non-zero channels) or reading chat via script is not disallowed.

This issue is separate from IM, which has technical constraints preventing monitoring via LSL. 

[Perrie Juran]

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Freya Mokusei wrote:

This would be allowed under Community Standards:-

default{    state_entry()    {         llListen(0,"","","");    }    listen(integer channel, string name, key id, string message)    {        llSay(0,name + ": " + message);    }}

 This would

not

be allowed under Community Standards:-

default{    state_entry()    {         lIListen(0,"","","");    }    listen(integer channel, string name, key id, string message)    {        lIInstantMessage(llGetOwner(),name + ": " + message);    }}

 It's remote relaying which is disallowed - sending chat to uninvolved parties (such as those off-sim, via IM). Simply relaying inside LSL (via link message or non-zero channels) or reading chat via script is not disallowed.

This issue is separate from IM, which has technical constraints preventing monitoring via LSL. 

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Freya Mokusei wrote:

This would be allowed under Community Standards:-

default{    state_entry()    {         llListen(0,"","","");    }    listen(integer channel, string name, key id, string message)    {        llSay(0,name + ": " + message);    }}

 This would

not

be allowed under Community Standards:-

default{    state_entry()    {         lIListen(0,"","","");    }    listen(integer channel, string name, key id, string message)    {        lIInstantMessage(llGetOwner(),name + ": " + message);    }}

 It's remote relaying which is disallowed - sending chat to uninvolved parties (such as those off-sim, via IM). Simply relaying inside LSL (via link message or non-zero channels) or reading chat via script is not disallowed.

This issue is separate from IM, which has technical constraints preventing monitoring via LSL. 

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OK, I get it. 

 

 

Actually my brain was thinking about something else when I posted but it's not important right now.

[Freya Mokusei]

Just letting you know that you've quoted me twice by mistake.

Glad it made sense!