Dorientje Woller

Then your parent shall tell you this or better has to tell you this: Linden Labs is based in California and have to operate first and foremost under the Californian Laws. Under those laws, especially the Califonian Gambling Law, gachas are considered a gambling device, even an illegal gambling device, based on 4 points. - Device requires a payment (whether those are real money, virtual money, tokens or even carrot slices, makes no difference) - It's based on chance rather skill, aka the user (player) has no control, no input in the outcome of the result. - The result has a value (in this case, item can be resold and the profit of this action can be cashed out in real money) - Most important, the algorithm aka script can be manupilated so the outcome can be altered. This law is already as old, even older then the gachas in SL and it wonders me that it took so long for Linden Labs to take action against them.

I don't see any reason why a conveyor system should be gambling. In the case of the conveyor you still know what you get after payment. If you don't like what's been offered, you still have your own control in buying it or not. With gachas, you don't know what you are getting.

In fact, LL has already given everybody a script: Remove Gachas before the 31st of August. And instead of trying to find ways around the ban, wasting your time in complaining, maybe, just maybe creators and store owners should have started to follow the advice given by Linden Labs: remove gachas, unpack them and sell those items through the conventional means. Even the excuse of it's too much work doesn't hold in this case as Linden Labs did not specified a period in which those as previous known gacha items should be re-uploaded.

Isn't it possible that after the click a timer pops up, giving the "player" a certain amount of time to make the transaction? Once the time is up ... bad luck ... next.

Although, I recently seeing more and more vendors, especially on events, that not clearly explaining what they trying to sell. Call it a lack of information. Especially when it comes to skins, that it isn't clearly said that you only get the head skin and not a full body skin.

Isn't 7 Deadly s[K]ins pay to join? I believe it's free on special occassions.

Slightly not. I have a store on Marketplace, and offers a free demo, so you can see what you get before you buy. AKA, it isn't a gamble.

You answered your own question. Gacha is not a skilled game, it's based on chance, randomness, luck. Games on the Skilled Gaming Regions are based on skill, some form of control over the outcome of the game.

It's not only that, as not only kids and games kids play. Most AAA, MMO's, RPG's are played by young adults to even adults. Sadly, as with each aspect of life, there is a section of the population that is weak to the temptations of it. Let me ask you a question: Would you like it that your partner is wasting his salary to what is in fact pixalated crap that serves nobody in real life, to an extend that you have to get a loan to buy you for example a TV. It's, beside protecting kids while they are playing also protecting adults from the excesses we witness in the gaming industry.

Well, going to use example: Suppose you are a chicken farmer, and you sell your little pok pok animals in the US, but they are treated with chloride to prevent them to get ill. At some point you want to sell your product, chlorifide chicken meat in the EU. Well, going to tell you with a straight face: "Sorry, you can't, because chlorifide chicken meat in the EU is banned, for health reasons". Only thing you can do to get a foothold on the EU is bend to our will, and start producing chicken meat from chickens that haven't been treated with chloride.

Seems you failed to understand one major aspect of this ban of Gachas: NO still means NO and nuffing else.

So in your mind paying for example 75 Linden for a gacha and getting in return an item that is worth 40 linden isn't losing money?

It is gambling as you have forsaken already 2 points of the describtion of gambling: 1. You pay money, real or virtual. 2. Outcome is based on chance, not skill Once more, that you get each time an item of value is no longer a point of discussion after forsaking the first 2 points.

You pay an amount of money, whether this is real money or virtual money or even potato chips, in order to play a game based on chance not skill, aka the player has no control over the outcome, makes it betting or gambling. Whether the device, gacha machine, turns out each time an item of value doesn't matter at all.

OMG, sorry, the excuse of that any government has any say into how we spend out money is one arguement pulled in by the hairs. Yes, I am allowed to spend my money by my government into whatever I want, as long it isn't into illegal activities.

Isn't that what you already get in certain stores when you buy something: it's called a reduction or store credit.

Wrong, a raffle in SL only requires an entrance with your account name, not a payment. You simply slap the raffleboard to register, nuffing more, nuffing less.

No, that is a describtion of an illegal gambling device under the Carlifornian Gambling Law. I believe, correction, I am sure that the headquarters of Linden Labs are situated in California.

For those who are still doubting: Gachas according the Californian Gambling Law are illegal gambling devices, read the link, especially what is between the brackets: https://www.abc.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Law-Enforcement-Advisory-Illegal-Gambling-Devices-1.pdf

I would ask a 4th question: is entering a raffle from a creator on FB well clearly within the privacy laws. Don't think that a SL creator has any business with my personal FB account and name.

Mind you something different: in order to be on the European or whatever market other then the US, Linden Lab has to comply to the laws of that market. So, if the EU considers Gacha as illegal gambling, then Linden Lab has 2 options: either they remove the gachas or they, Linden Labs, removes themselves from that market and if they don't do either of the both options, they risk to be blocked from that market. That is the simple and pure reality of doing international businesses.

Maybe they can ask if Gachas will be allowed on those special for gambling created sims/lands ? And hold their events there.

You don't understand it: follow the flowchart in this document of June 2019 by the Bureau Of Gambling Control: https://www.abc.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Law-Enforcement-Advisory-Illegal-Gambling-Devices-1.pdf

If creators would use the same skeletons anchor points as they are there for the heads, the issue wouldn't be so obvious. But if I buy a hairset that clearly mentions for X head, than I expect that it fits for that head and hasn't a space of a finger wide between the head and the hair itself. Nor is it normal that even, when provided, none of the S/M/L sizes fits the head and are clipping it. Even hiding the scalp or using and alpha doesn't help in some cases. Fashion, my dear, doesn't dictate what people want, fashion is dictated in what people want.

Been hunting for a hair do that you like and discover then that it doesn't fit, no matter what you try. Or having 3 different sizes and none fit, either clipping with your head or are floating to a point that it becomes ugly and not wearable. Or better, having a ton of bangs & strands that you have to resize, but when you have reached the minimum or maximum those add ons are still floating or at least not in position. Or you paid already quiet an amount for a hair set and have to pay extra for a style hud to realize that the hair doesn't fit whether it's rigged mesh or not. What's wrong lately that nearly none of hair really fits, while we all know that heads, whether mesh or bento mesh are bound to the limits of LL and SL. Oh, don't drop me the usual bomb of adapt the shape of the head, play a bit around with the sliders till the hair fits. A. Not everybody has a shape he/she likes that is modifiable. B. As a shape "creator", I know damn well that the minute adaption of head sliders has an effect on the overall look of the avatar. It's about time to get your acts back together and start providing hair sets that fit all sizes and shapes.