Luna Bliss
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Thanks for the responses everyone...
I've tried setting the object for sale with the Touch option and the Buy Object option, but still the customer gets the dollar sign when they left click so they can't rez leaves on a tree or accessories with a bench.
I found the legacy settings under Preferences >>> Firestorm >>>Build....however this only changes the way you set an object for sale (you don't have to hit the apply buton) but it doesn't change the way people can buy it. They get that stupid dollar sign no matter what I do.
Thanks LL for this lovely improvement! And thanks for the big prim avatar intersect improvement too so I get to rebuild a lot of my skyboxes because the Demos won't rez for customers. It would be nice to have time to actually create and not fix things this year. END RANT
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Does anybody know if there's a viewer that will set items for sale the old way (so that the purchaser right clicks and get the pie menu) as opposed to the newer way in Firestorm (where one hovers over the item for sale and a dollar sign appears, then left clicks to purchase)?
The problem I'm having...I can't set items for sale in a forest now that have interactive features (like a tree with falling leaves, or a bench that rezzes multiple items) - left clicking brings up the dollar sign instead of the menu I've put in. I hate putting ugly boxes out beside every single thing for sale in a forest or my store, and want the old system back.
One of my trees with falling leaves even became totally corrupted - I can't get the dollar sign to delete even after setting it to not be for sale - so you can't get a menu for falling leaves anymore no matter what i do to the tree. All I get now when clicking is the dollar sign and the message that the item isn't for sale.
I can't alternate between the old Phoenix viewer and Firestorm anymore as something gets messed up...does anybody know of another viewer that sets items for sale in the old way? Or will everyone not even comprehend a pie menu as a way to purchase eventually?
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Does everyone not showing in Search have a magnum sim?
That's what mine is..hasn't shown up in Search for a number of days now...Bliss Gardens Park.
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Yes Knowl...there are lots of wide open spaces on the google map...but that is not how you determine if we have overpopulation.
Cities require lots of land surrounding them to support the population - all this land is needed to grow food on and supply other raw materials. If there's not enough land to support the city then the city suffers.
I live on the prairie - it's turning into a dust bowl as the drought continues. It's not going to be providing much wheat for the numerous cities that need it.
40,000 children die every day from starvation.
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Knowl and Medhue affirm:
"So, how do we as people fight back against the evil that surrounds us? We demand voluntary exchange and reject violence all together. We embrace Free Markets. Each 1 of us does what we were meant to do, which is be our own person with our own businesses, supplying each other with the things we need or want. The computer age is here and we can now all do business and inform each other. We can reject the chains they want to put on us. Profits are not the evil part, it is the people behind all the profits that create the world we live in. Profits mean that the business is sustainable and provide value to each other. They are a measure of just how efficient your business is, and how you might improve it. To save the earth, we all take ownership of it and protect it. When it's our water, we'll make sure it is clean. Each of us, individually, to benefit every1 in the market. Markets, business, profits, and self interest protects our world, 1 by 1. It's the TV that makes us think differently. With each of us, doing our own thing and providing value to each other, we will create a utopia. I don't need to grow the corn, because he will. You don't need to make the clothing because she will, and with every1 doing their thing, we'll all live in abundance. We don't need governance, all we need are markets that are without restrictions."
They had that freedom in the Wild West in the 1800's (in America). It didn't work too well....unless you carried a big gun.
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I remember my Political Science teacher saying that politics can be defined as 'who gets what, and how". And I see many parallels between RL politics/business and SL ones, though of course many don't apply. It''s a good thing for business people in all worlds to examine who gets what, and how.
Most important, given that we all don't burn up from the RL weather feedback loops set in motion, if we want our jobs to continue as 3D content creators in user generated worlds do we want a world highly governed as SL is, or do we want a wild west world like open sim with little governance, or do we want a world somewhere in the middle? -
Medhue how can you say the big corporations are not a problem when the earth is being destroyed as we speak. It may be too late to save the human species due to the weather feedback loops now in motion, but sadly I sometimes wonder if that is really a problem. Maybe it ultimately doesn't matter as Mother Earth will cast us off even as we head to the Arctic to pillage every last drop of her. They will stop at nothing for profit, and just as they stole the savings from elderly people and others who invested they will steal every last part of the earth unless we stop them. Banks...corporations...they are evil today. And they like nothing better than to use those obsessed with freedom to create 'divide and conquer' argument distractions so they can more easily run off with the loot.
No..I don't think you are some horrible evil right-winger...I think you are duped...unable to see beyond your experience into a world where some find it harder to pull themselves up by their boot straps due to past circumstances, and where corporations and even some small business owners will stop at nothing for the sake of profit. Employees can't always find another job as you say...it doesn't balance out so easily IN THE REAL WORLD.
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Medhue there just simply can't be the freedom without governance in society that you wish for - it will not work because those with the most money always skew things to their advantage and exploit others for their own gain. Right now those with the most money have managed to buy off government to exploit everyone else and so government is not working for the people as it should be, but if government was gone they would just exploit those with less money directly. There has to be some kind of regulation in life, and the solution is not to do away with government, it is for us to influence government to regulate for all people instead of only for those at the top.
You seem like a fair person, and I imagine you would make an attempt not to exploit others working for you (and in the complex society we have today work is organized so that we have large companies and employees - most are not single entrepreneurs), but many business owners do not see anything wrong with squeezing the little guy in their company for all they can get. Even if that is not your motive, it's very hard to maintain empathy for others - I would not even trust myself (having majored in Psyc and Social Work and so trained to see others needs) to see all the specific concerns of those who might be working for me. I would rather a group of workers meet and explain it to me, for negotions to occur, and for some kind of governance to be in effect from an agency above me who has studied the matter and received input from everyone involved.
Power corrupts, and once again if those in power can't buy off government they would find a way to exploit people directly. The solution is not to get rid of governement but for us to take back our own slice of power in government and make it work in a fairer way. Demonizing the government and focusing on divisive right/left, governement/no government, conservative/liberal arguments only obscures the discovery of solutions - it's much easier to just blame something as opposed to the complexity and hard work of sorting it all out.
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0.o ^^ ~
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Rya said:
"....real world companies usually supply information on a 'need to know' basis - and for good reason. Because when management tries full transparency it is almost certain to come back to bite them. Things change, but staff will hang their hats on any information they receive, and will take it very badly when it doesn't happen that way. The environment here is very much like working for any company, where you could parallel the Lindens role to management and we're the workers.
As a worker within a company you'd be told to just get on with it under the conditions as they are, and leave actions, decisions, changes to management. Oh, I know that management often make a show of 'listening' to employees, but how often do they act on what they hear? Same happens here.
Now, I'm not saying I like it that way, but it's the way things are. It won't change and maybe because it isn't practical to change it."
The problem is that this type of virtual world is very different from the typical corporate company you described, and treating it so has been the primary reason for SL's decline.
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When a new policy forces us to collect our money from customers after delivery failures, depending on our customers good will to actually pay us for what they received, this has crossed over to maliciousness (because LL can easily fix their mistake by refunding the $L, but through willful negligence they are choosing not to).
My concern is that this new policy is setting a dangerous precedent, one in which they feel free to deliver our content through the MP and not pay us for that delivery. If it happens infrequently I'm not concerned and don't consider it malicious, but the fact that the policy regarding failed deliveries has recently changed to where they have no intention of compensating our losses is something we should keep a close eye on.
I reluctantly deal with all the failings of the MP, but this latest development has gone too far. Hopefully this was the act of someone uninformed or making bad decisions and not reflecting a true change in policy regarding how they intend to deal with MP delivery failures in the future.
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Well Toy, regarding the SLUniverse forum I think it's an alpha male thing - you have to go through this procedure to be accepted I've noticed. As a male especially you can't act like you know anything till you've been pissed on a bit, kind of like what my dog used to do in the yard to mark his territory.
Many of them are more disappointed in LL than even we are - they've pretty much given up. I more talk to those who used to participate there and gave up on SL totally, leaving long ago for other grids or just quitting virtual worlds altogether.
They were fighting against you, and most were not really fighting FOR SL.
They do show respect to Rodvik when he appears in the forum though, well most do anyway, but many trash him on the forum and in other venues due to their disappointment in the management of SL.
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Pamela did you have any luck getting payments for all the orders LL delivered to residents for free?
I have yet to receive any response for my 5K skybox that was gifted to a resident.
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Yes Czari..it is satisfied customers that bring in new members...this is how a world grows...a fact that seems to be unheard of by LL.
Faye I'm sorry for your loss...I can't even imagine having to deal with that.
An entire sim (one that rezzes over an entire 65,000 sq m island) disappeared from my inventory once. Blue Linden searched high and low for it but to no avail and I was very appreciative of his efforts. But yeah Toy, you would think they would create a backup somewhere!
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ok Phoebe thank you...I started a thread over at SLUniverse..
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I received an email saying I sold a skybox for 5k as part of an order, yet no money was deposited into my account and it doesn't show up in my MP transaction history either.
I'm fairly certain that if this skybox had not been part of an order I would have no record of the sale.
I don't sell that much on the MP but have had a LOT of failures...I imagine people who make a lot of sales on the MP are losing quite a bit of money.
Using DD btw
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So far I've never felt comfortable asking a customer to do anything for me without giving something in return, and the few times I tried this technique I always gave a reward. I was mainly offering that suggestion to Rya since he didn't feel comfortable offering a payment for reviews and considered that 'gaming'.
However, what I discovered was that when I offered rewards some customers said 'oh Luna you don't need to give me anything to do that - I'm happy to review it'. Many just didn't know it was important for merchants or even know the process for leaving a review.
I might try requesting a review from certain customers without offering compensation in the future though - customers that have been purchasing from me for a long time for example, or customers that needed a lot of time/assistance from me.
I look at my loyal customers more as 'friends' and don't have as much professional distance from them, and so don't consider requesting a review as 'begging'. -
I hate all these business games, and am too lazy to participate in most, or maybe just sick of it all.
Rya your creations are really good, and you should be making more money (I remember you saying awhile back that you weren't).
What about just messaging a customer and asking if they'd leave an honest review - don't even offer a reward, and make sure you explain that you want the review to be honest with both positive and negative (if any) aspects of your creation? -
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Gaga I think you need to do a little more research into how Opensim/Osgrid was founded, and how this manifested recently in those who bullied the above mentioned woman into near suicide (because she wouldn't share her content anymore and joined another grid they despised), and how a woman's beautiful artwork (painted plants) were stolen and how she was subsequently trashed for simply standing up to them and reporting the theft.
I am not criticizing what you are trying to do in Opensim, and i enjoy reading your articles and know that you build well, and I can see from your writings that you don't believe in theft. I know that there are many others like you in not-for-profit Opensim grids. I hope that Opensim will one day evolve into what you envision - a world where both commerce and sharing can exist side by side - where both sides give respect to the other. It looks like this HG2 is a step in the right direction.
My only reason for posting here was to caution content creators reading this thread to be careful. Many have spent years developing their content and depend on sales to pay for some of their bills. My side will always be for the freelancing content creator in the Metaverse, however that evolves. It has not been an easy road - you've got proprietary game companies trying to squeeze more and more from you, and people yelling at you that you're either not a TRUE artist or a spiritual person if you want to be compensated for your efforts, and those in the Opensim realm thinking everything should be shared "for the common good", and customers who try to get you to do custom work for 5 cents an hour. I just have to say, as I posted on another thread...can't a freelancin girl just earn a little money around here?
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Gaga (Talla), isn't it true that when you travel from grid to grid that any particular grid owner could suck up your entire inventory and change it to full perm? I know progress is being made with the new Hypergrid development to allow safer commerce, but it isn't in place yet, and I still feel suspicious regarding how much protection it would actually provide.
And what about the philosophy Opensim was founded on..that all content should be free? I know you said on another blog that you don't know anyone controlling Opensim in that way..but aren't they the coders and so would have ultimate control? And what about the woman who created free content for Opensim for years, who was recently bullied into near suicide because she wanted to go to some of the safer, closed grids and make a little money? Is it safe to participate in a system whose basic organizing principle is forced sharing?
For now I only feel safe in the closed Opensim grids like Inworldz, Spoton3d, and Avination...but I am keeping an eye on how Opensim progresses.
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Sheesh..this is all so complicated..can't a freelancin girl just earn some money around here?
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Spica, perhaps you should hone your skills more, and expand your market beyond Halloween/Pagan items, and explore marketing techniques.
Throw in a little luck, and some finger-crossing that SL doesn't totally collapse, and you could be making more money (and hopefully stop posting constantly how horrible the greedy, overpriced, and dominate big in-world stores are).
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Hmmm it seems to be working now on new items I set for sale...I wonder if the one tree became corrupted somehow...that has happened before.
Eventually I wonder if people won't comprehend a pie menu anymore and know to right click and choose 'more' and then 'buy'.
I hate dollar signs coming up everywhere too..plus it's so easy for people to accidentally buy things (happens a lot in my store already).