BilliJo Aldrin
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On 7/14/2017 at 9:44 PM, Qie Niangao said:
What was being contrasted wasn't so much Mainland ownership but rather "owning" an Estate parcel, which is really a rental arrangement except for certain parcel permissions that are difficult or impossible to imitate with a Mainland rental. About the closest you can get as a Mainland landlord is to offer each tenant their own unique per-parcel group to which the land is deeded, then use group roles to grant nearly all the same abilities as an Estate parcel owner gets. But it's a tremendous pain for the landlord to juggle all those groups.
Also, there's really nothing more "real" about the money paid for Premium -- if a resident has a business, they can sell those L$s for US$s with only nominal exchange fee, and use that income to fund the Premium membership and the tier for a Mainland parcel. The real problem is that owners of smaller Mainland parcels pay relatively higher tier, so a rental is often more cost-effective in such cases, whether that rental is Mainland or Estate.
Tier for my 4096 sq m on mainland is close the the same as rent for a 4096 sq m on an estate. Plus on mainland i can incorporate my free 512 sq m into it so in fact I can have a 4608 sq m compared to a 4096 sq m
Renting on an estate gives you full parcel ownership rights because your name is on the parcel as owner, Renting on mainland gives you only limited renters rights, because the person you are renting from is still the parcel owner.
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On 7/14/2017 at 9:08 PM, Talligurl said:
I am not sure it is so much people do not care, as it is some people cannot buy land because to buy land you have to be premium, and being premium means you have to put real money into SL, and some people's budgets do not allow it. To finance their SL they start a business, produce something of value and try to sell it. To better promote their business, they get a store in world, which they have to rent, because they are not premium members.
There is so much confusion between renting and owning land. If your name shows in the ownership line in the about land tab, you own it. Owning it means you have to pay either rent to an estate owner or tier to Linden Lab.
If i own a mainland parcel, i have to pay tier to Linden Lab. If i own an estate parcel, i have to pay rent to the estate owner.
As you say, non premium members can't own mainland, they can only pay rent for mainland, but with far fewer rights than if they rented (owned) a parcel on an estate.
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12 hours ago, Reaos Heartsdale said:
Amanda, I do have at least 3 girls that i am regular with, and meet occasionally others. Timezones help but when its with out a skybox, thats when its hard to keep any of them because of so many trolls trying to block you. Hell, alot of the trolls that i ran across even messaged my partner, and went to such lengths to try to create a rift. Thankfully she didn't take any of them seriously and hopefully understands that this happens like that sometimes with out a skybox, but at the same time, you guys now kinda see my point?
Your whole life fell apart because u can't afford a $ 60 L a week skybox? IM me inworld, I'll let you use my skybox to take your girls to.
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Please post the name of your club when it opens so i can be sure to never go there.
Avatars by themselves cause lag, nothing useful will be served by having bots all over your club.
Seriously, no one will want to come to your club and hang out with bots, it would be much better if u can advertise and get real live people
p.s In answer to your question, yes it's all possible.
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A friend of mine has some contraption that pays you $0.1 L for correctly answering a trivia question. But after answering two in a row correctly it warned me that my hourly limit for winning is $ 3 L So if i answer 30 questions correctly I'll have to wait till the start of the next hour to win more
Talligurl is right, the easiest way to make money is pole dancing. However if you are willing to text escort, you can make around $2000 L per hour actually spent with clients.
Regulars are the key.
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The last thing I want to live beside on mainland is an active club.
They can easily max out sim access, especially if they do the usual trick of having 20 avis parked up in the sky somewhere to boost traffic.
But, since the OP will BE the problem everyone else should avoid, its not a problem for him.
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12 hours ago, Alwin Alcott said:
perhaps explain what your 3 points have to do with mainland sales?
It's just as the system in SL is, all grounds are sold in sqm. Mainland or Estate, no difference.
note: this has nothing to do with how some owners rent out their land. That's sometimes per prim/li use.
If hes not being facetious, what hes saying makes perfect sense. Parcels rent out per sq meter, but that also means there is a per prim price for a parcel of any given size.
I often tell people looking to rent that if all they are considering is cost, try mainland because the per prim price is far cheaper there than on an estate for the same size parcel.
Of course you get far less rights since you aren't "owner" but some people don't care
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6 minutes ago, mikka Luik said:
Plenty of mainland already available at 1L per or below but yes why not add more? I know someone who just did after juggling tier numbers and now has a lovely extra plot roadside.
Not $1 L per sq meter, $1 L per parcel, just like the private estate owners offer.
Under my plan you could buy a 4096 sq m for $1 L. If you get tired of it or just don't want to pay the tier anymore, you abandon it because you only spent $1 L to buy it.
Then LL list it for sale again at $1 L
That will destroy much of the the market for land speculators.
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Now that i think about it, if Linden Lab wants to reduce abandoned mainland, they should go thru all of the mainland, subdivide the abandoned land into lots of various tier sizes, and list it for sale at $1 L per parcel.
I'm sure many many premium account holders would be willing to buy mainland parcels with such an offer.
It might even induce more people to go premium to get a $1 L mainland parcel.
And if land flippers buy it all up, who cares? LL will still collect tier from the flippers as they try to unload all the land they scooped up.
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4 hours ago, Claireschen Hesten said:
If the Mainland sim i reside in is anything to go by it's empty because the land has been abandoned to Gov Linden ownership some parcels for years (furthest back 2009 in the sim i reside) and it doesn't get put for sale or auction
You can submit a support ticket and have any parcel you are interested in put up for auction. I've done it several times. If its not a desirable parcel, you can get it for the opening bid of $0.5 L per sq m. If it is desirable be prepared to bid as much as you are wiling to pay, because if you don't a flipper will buy it and offer to sell it to you at an inflated price. I always decline and simple look elsewhere for a parcel to buy.
I currently have a long narrow 4096 beside a full sim a friend of mine owns, i got it for the opening bid price. There is a 512 between me and a mainland road, and if the owner ever shows up I will make a generous offer to buy it from him.
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1 hour ago, Klytyna said:
Here's a couple of questions for the Pro-Madlands fans...
If the Madlands are so damn great, why is so much of it empty, and why do so many live elsewhere by choice?
Its empty because only premium members can own land there, plus like you say estates are way safer. If there's trouble, your landlord will take care of it pronto.
I moved once because a person with a 512 ran some sort of noob visitor center and often maxxed out the sim with visitors to his place. I should have known there was a reason the price was so low for Zindra.
On a private estate you don't have to worry about things like someone having a giant brick building covering 100% of the parcel, right up to your property line. I did that one time on mainland, and the person beside me whined and said she was gonna tell one of Lindens on me (all the whiners seem to be best friends with one of the Lindens). A friend of hers then pointed out that i wasn't breaking any rules. Next thing I knew a land flipper was offering to sell me the parcel for probably 5 times what he had just paid for it. I politely declined.
I lived most of my second life on private estates, but i vastly prefer mainland, if for no other reason than i get billed once a month to my credit card for my tier.
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I'm confused, why do we need an ATM? If you want to give money to an alt, or anyone at all, just click "pay" on their profile
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9 minutes ago, Klytyna said:
Ah! I wondered when the classic "Madlander Max the Prim Warrior" battle cry would crop up in the Premium Propaganda.
Many of us AVOID the Madlands as much as possible because of that whole "No Rulz" thing, with every self entitled madlander asshat spamming lag tech griefer orbs to stop 'peasants' looking at their parcels, or rezzing hunk prims on their neighbors land because the neighbor hasn't set 'auto return' on the basis that it's ok to fill your neighbours land with junk to remind them to protect YOU from griefers.
Too many Madlanders are still fighting the Parcel Wars, playing 'piss on thy neighbour' to force sales or abandonment, so they can have their rinky-dink 512 prim hovel in the middle of an abandoned sim.
Sorry, but as long as the Madlands are a hateful place to visit never mind live, I'll continue to hate being there.
I'm not sure where you have seen all this happening, but my mainland experience has been generally positive.
I love being able to walk out my front door, hop onto a LL car that travels the roads and visit a whole continent.
Hate is found where ever you chose find it. I suggest you look inside your own heart.
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11 hours ago, Klytyna said:
But that 0.5 ls a prim 'purchase price' certainly doesn't include a weeks rent/tier. You are JUST paying for the right to stick your name on the parcel and be billed by LL, from somebody who probably marked it down that low in the hope that somebody would buy it before the next billing period, so they wouldn't have to just abandoned it to avoid another months tier.
You rent from LL or you rent from an estate owner, prices are generally comparable. If you stay at your 512 bonus level, there is no tier above your premium membership which i already explained will cost you 1 dollar US a month after you received your weekly stipend. I challenge you to find me a 512 anywhere that rents for 250 L a month.
Going to a higher tier level, LL tier rates are very comparable with renting on an estate plus you are dealng with LL as a landlord, not an estate owner.
Also, you have no rules on mainland apart from Maturity guidelines.
My ideal mainland parcel is one on an entirely abandoned mainland sim... no neighbors, no complaints, no lag.
THAT by itself is worth my monthly premium membership charge.
Let go of your negativity and hate Klityna, you'll be a much happier person if you can.
*hugs*
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22 hours ago, Klytyna said:
This is why many island dwellers consider Madlander Premi-Nazis to be educationally sub-normal.
Wow, I 'm always amazed at the unexpected forms of hate i stumble across.
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10 hours ago, Klytyna said:
Oh, I suspect the REAL reason he's so keen to force everyone to go premium is that non-premium island dwellers typically pay 1 L$ per prim to 'buy' the land, and that's taken as their first weeks rent, whereas he'd prefer people to be premium so they can pay him 3.5 L$ a prim for the right to be billed tier by LL, where your purchase price doesn't buy you any time at all.
It's amazing how often a certain type of post can be traced directly back to "Wants to force people to buy overpriced Madlands parcels from the poster" like a thread by another well known Madlander Slumlord who demanded the banning of 'self unpacking shopping bags' presumably because not needing land to unpack means less reason for 'noobs' to rent Madlands parcels from said Slumlord.
There's an old method for identifying peoples reasons for saying unreasonable things...
"Follow the Money"
You can buy mainland for as low as $ 0.5 L per sq m.
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Some of the benefits of yearly premium memberships @ 6 dollars US a month::
1) $5.00 US a month in Linden Dollars
2) Tier free 512 sq m plot worth way more than the other $1 a month you pay
3) Ability to own mainland
4) better support options
5) bragging rights to all the admitted deadbeats that they are leaches and you at least are supporting Linden Labs in some miniscule way
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On 7/4/2017 at 6:15 PM, Maelstrom Janus said:
Make everyone adopt a premium account and when everyone in sl is paying their fair share reduce membership charges and tiers.... simple.
Except you'll lose some of the current non premium members and a large portion of new signups. Forcing everyone to be premium will only hasten the eventual folding of second life.
LL is obviously happy about the mix of premium vs non premium members because they know that probably 99.9% of the non premium members still contribute to the companies profitability in some way.
I think there are very few total deadbeats in second life, they can usually be found in sex sims with 5 yr old noob avis trying to engage every girl that walks in.
Their profile says never bought a Linden dollar and proud of it? Move along loser.
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Why would you even have a name like that, and use that picture? What are you trying to prove? Are you a griefer, drama queen or just looking for attention?
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My bad, you said private regions, but yes, like ChinRey said, grandfathered and special offers for large land owners make the $15,999 a week rent on private estates profitable
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I thought the grandfathered / buy down rate was 195 a month, which is what the tier level for a mainland full sim still is and as far as i know, always was.
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21 hours ago, Talligurl said:
Why ask this question here? I have been banned several times (yes sweet little me) some of those times I had no clue why, I always contacted the sim owner and asked why. I then sent a very apologetic message and promised to always be good, and most times I got let back in. Remember you have no rights in this situation, arguing with a sim owner is not going to help. If you want back in, you need to be saying "I was wrong, you were right, I am so sorry"
I got banned on 350 sims with one click, but I didn't need to ask him why. A friend asked a couple of years later if I could be allowed back onto one of the sims he manages, but he said no effing way. Its unfortunate that a person as unstable as him is a manager of so many sims.
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1 hour ago, hotBabeAu said:
Fair point skell I didn't relise it was a rude comment but i agree I hope the owner is forgiving.
What you need to hope is that the owner isn't an estate manager on multiple sims, because with one click, he can ban you from every single sim he manages
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When u take the picture use a different ratio beside square, or if you like that picture, save it to your hard drive, crop it to recangular shape, save it then send it back up to sl
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I forgot how toxic this community can be!
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And yet... there's guys with a partner and a declaration of undying love and affection to their one and only, totally committed to, sexually exclusive wife, constantly showing up at the escort sim I work at, looking for sex.
I always say "Hi there, there looking for a present to bring home for the wife?"
One married guy that said he was too poor to pay my rates, I told him his wife needs to give him a bigger allowance.