Phil Deakins
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The short answer is no. The more detailed answer is no.
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I had a very similar problem. The V3 worked fine and then, after an update, it would crash either at login or right after lgging in - every time, so I couldn't use it and had to go back to Phoenix. Since then, I've changed my computer and the V3 works fine again. (Oddly enough, more recently the Phoenix viewer suddenly stopped letting me open my own scripts so I had to use the V3).
I think my V3 is set to auto-update so I'm thinking that your problem may have started after an update.
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Well... even though your problem has a solution, I disagree that the priorities have been changed. I use LL's current V3 and my AO, and the AO walk overrides the default walk. In fact I don't see the sliding effect that you describe at all. I have seen it briefly from time to time but it's always been to do with the failure to receive data and nothing to do with LL changing the priorities.
The fact that I use the current V3 and see no such problem means that LL has not changed the default priorities, and all those animations you mentioned do not need to be changed. In fact, I don't see how changing the default anims to a higher priority would cause sliding anyway. It would simply mean that the default anims get used more often. Not sliding.
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Boudicca Littlebird wrote:There is talk of a Greek exit from the Euro, some pundits claim it will take the Euro down then the pound followed by the dollar,how do you think this is going to affect the market here?
If a Greek exit from the eurozone takes the euro down, followed by the pound (sterling), follwed by the US$, there will be no SL to worry about its market, so your question doesn't arise.
But don't worry about it. Greece may leave the eurozone, and a few other countries may follow in time, but what you report some pundits as saying isn't going to happen.
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jwenting wrote:And why do you want to deny LL the income they need to keep SL running? Why do you deserve an income but they don't?
Because LL don't care a toss about their paying customers. Someone wrote a few posts back that LL sees their customers as "addicted fools", and I agree. They have done too many things that are negative for customers, and precious little that's good for customers, and, if I can deny them money, I will.
Incidentally, I didn't say that I "deserve" the income. I've taken it for years, that's all.
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Ann Otoole wrote:I am one of the people that simply decided it is easier to be on SLM only and stop handing LL every dime I make. I still have a home parcel but I think I will ditch that and drop to free account status and maybe invest in second inventory before it is too late. Or just write it all off as a very bad investment decision.
For a very similar reason to yours, I decided to do the opposite. I decided that LL saw how much money was being spent on stuff and decided to get a cut of it, and they came up with the marketplace for that reason. My response to it was not to put anything on the marketplace, precisely so that LL wouldn't get that cut. I admit that your way of denying LL money is better than mine, because it denies them much more than my way does. But I did do a little bit to deny them tier. As I downsized in two stages, from a sim to a quarter sim, I abandoned land so that LL would lose tier on it for some time. Much of that land remains abandoned but, unfortunately, some sold after some time.
When the store closes, probably sometime this year, I'll keep the account active(ish) and I won't lose any of my stuff - in case I fancy starting all over again sometime in the future with my better stuff. When my premium runs out early next year, Ill probably go to basic.
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I don't see any change. For things to change on your screen, data needs to be received. I suspect the problem is in your connection.
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Tari Landar wrote:Contrary to what some believe, you also don't have to shell out a ton of rl cash, in order to have a business be profitable
Absolutely true. When I joined SL I shelled out some RL cash for a premium account and, soon afterwards, for a small piece of land. That was the last time I used RL money for anything in SL, and I've taken a lot out of it.
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Myra Wildmist wrote:I didn't think anyone got rich in sl, but I thought maybe the owners of the big stores might at least be making some rl spending cash.
I think a lot of people make "RL spending cash" but, if you could get answers from all store owners, I think you'd find that most either lose money or just about manage to make their tier costs with a little L$ to spend.
Some make very decent RL money but I don't think there are many of those. I was one until I got bored and decided to close down. That was over two years ago and I've let the store fade ever since then. It still makes enough RL money to be worth keeping it open but I don't think it'll be too much longer before it's no longer worth it. So, contrary to what you wrote in your first post, there really are people who can decided to shut up shop when the shop is doing extremely well
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I still think of it as Mature and I find it difficult to bring the newer word (Moderate) to mind when I need it, even though I've been using LL's V3 for some weeks now..
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Arkady Arkright wrote:I hate to disillusion you, but this isn't the real world - and 'Mature' has a dictionary definiton, are you going to tell OED or Websters they've got it all wrong because LL got confused ?
It doesn't matter what the dictionary definition of 'mature' is. The only thing that matters here is what LL allows, and does not allow, on Mature rated land.
Incidentally, this is the real world as far as rules (ToS) are concerned.
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Qwalyphi Korpov wrote:There's a lot that's unclear from the OPs post. If the access to the land is set to group only & the 'avatars can not be seen by those outside' mode is on then sex balls that were not for sex use may become available for sex use.The following language indicates to me that including mature land in search that contains 'adult content or conduct' is an important issue.Linden Lab will .... rely on abuse reports that identify adult content or conduct that is promoted or advertised publicly. Where adult content or conduct on a regionis publicly advertised or promoted, that region must be designated as Adult (or such content must be removed). We will re-designate such regions if adult content is not removed.
If the land of the OP is only accessible by the group, and the group isn't open enrolment, and it's activities can't be seen from the outside, and the sex activities aren't advertised, then I would say that the sex balls are fine. We agree on that.
In my posts, I've accepted the part of the FAQ/ToS (wherever it came from) that you quoted too. Sex acts are allowed on Mature land, provided that it isn't advertised. I believe that other parts make it clear that sex acts are only allowed on Mature for private use, which could be group only, of course, and not anywhere where it can be easily seen by passers-by, such as in the open without any setting to prevent it.
As you said, there is a lot that's unclear from the OP's post, or a lot that's left out of it. But if that place is as s/he described it, without anything relevant missing, then it's against the ToS and should be ARed until it's clean.
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jwenting wrote:you would be wrong... Bots offend every sim owner who suffers because of them, and every visitor to those sims who has to deal with the increased lag caused by them. Specifically the ones used to cheat in contests by sending in dozens of alts just to vote for someone.You're projecting your own (IMO perverted or at the very least overly prudish) morality as applying to the entire population base, implying that anyone who isn't offended by some flesh as being a sex crazed pervert.It's quite possible, and extremely healthy, to leave other people alone. It's a large world out there, don't like what others do in a sim, go somewhere else.It's people who go around gawking and looking for technical violations and then screaming bloody hell and murder when they find them that are the perverts.
No I'm not wrong. Traffic bots (which is what I said - not all bots) never have offended anyone. They have certainly annoyed many people but that's nothing to do with being "offended". If you disagree, check the dictionary.
So people who prefer that sex acts are not done out in the open in public are perverted in your opinion. That speaks volumes about you.
As you said, it's perfectly healthy to leave other people alone - griefers, traffic-bot runners, spammers, hackers who steal your money, etc. - perfectly healthy. It doesn't mean it's right though.
LL created adult land, precisely so that sex acts were not done where they weren't expected. It doesn't matter whether or not you think that sex acts should be allowed anywhere and everywhere (again, it speaks about you), and people should mind their own business. What matters is what LL does and doesn't allow. You (and the rest of us) don't get a choice.
You may be against users ARing ToS violations - it certainly sounds like you are - but, to keep SL as free as possible from such things as griefers, thieves, etc. users have to AR the violations because LL doesn't have the staff to watch everywhere. And on the whole, users are happy with that situation. My guess is that you are happy with it too. But you can't pick and choose what should be ARed, except for yourself. As long as you think that one or more violations should be ARed, you have no grounds for complaint, or objection, if other people choose to AR violations that you would prefer were left alone. And if you don't think any violations should be ARed, you still have no grounds for complaint or objection that other people AR ToS violations, because they are violations of the ToS which are detrimental to SL, and people's enjoyment of SL.
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Alright, I'll use the word "advertise" instead of just search. Sex activities on publically accessible Mature land cannot be advertised, whether the activities are done in the open or behind walls. That's "search" sorted out to, I think, both our satisfactions
The last time I read the FAQ/answers about it, they weren't exactly full of clarity, so I agree with you about that. But I think there's a good reason for it, that covers more than just this particular topic. It's normal for such things to say what you can't do rather than what you can do. It's much easier to do it that way than to try and cover every 'can do' possibility. One of the things you can't do on Mature land is have open sex where people could pass by, whether it's promoted or not. The place that the OP wrote about seems to have that and, if it does, it's against the ToS and should be ARed until it's not doing it.
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jwenting wrote:what offends a lot more people is the attitude displayed by OP that it's up to him to decide what offends people and should be allowed... If he's so worried, why not contact the sim owners? No, he has to brag about finding the place in public and get it banned (and the owners too no doubt).
I honestly don't think that a lot more people are offended by people ARing something, or asking about ARing something, than are offended by accidentally coming across open sex activity where it shouldn't be. I am sure that you are offended by someone asking about it, but you don't constitute a lot of people. I realise that there are some who are so into pixel sex that they want it to be allowed everywhere, without any consideration for other people, but I'm sure there aren't many such people. There appears to be a few in this thread, but that's not many.
I didn't read the OP's post as having an "attitude". I read it as someone coming across, and asking about, something that s/he thought was against the ToS and, if it was, it was a serious controvention. It was so serious a thing that it caused LL to go to the great lengths of creating Adult land and all that that entailed in the switch-over.
I think your "banned" statement about the OP was nothing to do with reality. Do you have the same attitude concerning traffic-bots? They are also not allowed. Do you think they should be left alone as well? Of the two, open sex is by far the worst because it's as offensive to some in SL as it is to many more people in RL, whereas traffic-bots don't "offend" anyone.
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Nyll Bergbahn wrote:I'm only aware of one continent of Linden Homes and that is Nascera.
There are three clearly visible on the map. They all look identical so you can't miss them.
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Qwalyphi Korpov wrote:It seems they aren't listed in search and the group(s) are not open enrollment. So it's likely the could claim to comply with the TOS. Sex poseballs on mature land 'in the open' are allowed in at least some situations. That's why you can have a sex bed store in mature land.
They could claim compliance with the ToS, but I don't believe it is. That's assuming that it's unrestricted access, of course.
Sex animations are allowed in the open on Mature land, as you said, but using them for sex activities isn't. You gave sex bed stores as an example. I sell sex beds in my store that's on Mature land, so I took a lot of notice when Adult land came into being. At that time, it was made clear that potential customers can briefly try the sex animations to ascertain whether or not they want to buy, but nobody is permitted to use those sex animations for actual sex. Sex balls for public *sex* use are not allowed on Mature land, whether they are out in the open, as in the OP's case, or behind walls (in a room). It makes no difference whether the place is in search or not.
If publically accessible sex animations, for use in sex activities, were allowed on Mature land, there would be no difference between Mature and Adult land, and no need at all for Adult land. From the OP's post, it sounds like the place he described has publically accessible sex balls for sex use and, if that's so, it's against the ToS for Mature land whether it's in search or not.
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Ceka Cianci wrote:Phil Deakins wrote:I disagree with you, Ceka. If your sim was unavailable to the public, then I'd agree with you. But as long as anyone can go there, it has to follow the rules for Mature land, which means no public sex activities, etc.. It's nothing to do with attracting people via search.Search does have a role though. You can do adult activities (sex) behind closed doors on Mature land but, if you advertise those 'behind closed doors' activities in search, through the land's description or through items on the land that show in search, then it would be against the ToS for Mature land.
it is unavalible to the public heheheyou can't get in my sim unless i let you in or give you permission to let people in..adult has everything to do with search and promotion and hosting to the public..so does moderate.. private doesn't..thats why i said they should have a priv rating..cause sex balls sitting on a sim beach that says moderate rated is not ARable..they would know it wasn't even more if the sim said private rated..you can't cam in and see people using them if land settings are on either that make avatars invisible..it would unclog some Ar's in the system i would think..You didn't say that it's unavailable to the public. In that case, you can do exactly what you said you could do on your sim.
Search does play a role, as I said, but it isn't all about search. You can do some things on Mature land as long as it isn't plugged in search. If it's plugged in search, it has to be Adult land. For instance, on publically accessible private island sims, and mainland, you can use sex animations for sex, provided that it's not in the open where it could be easily seen. But plugging those sex activities in search would be against the ToS for that land.
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I disagree with you, Ceka. If your sim was unavailable to the public, then I'd agree with you. But as long as anyone can go there, it has to follow the rules for Mature land, which means no public sex activities, etc.. It's nothing to do with attracting people via search.
Search does have a role though. You can do adult activities (sex) behind closed doors on Mature land but, if you advertise those 'behind closed doors' activities in search, through the land's description or through items on the land that show in search, then it would be against the ToS for Mature land.
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JonathonAnthony wrote:Dillon - Yup, bored to tears. No L, didn't really find too many to chat with that had similar interests. My time to login was bad, mostly non-english users most places I found. This time around is... WAAAAAAY different. Have some disposable income to set up a life here... met someone... Found that I love DJing... I have 20 or so really great friends... Finally hit on the live music scene here... Just took hitting the right sim and being able to be on at a better time of day. So far I've yet to be bored at all. I'm also looking into building, texturing and scripting.Just because the first time around I didn't see the point of SL doesn't mean that there isn't one and that I will find it boring later onPhil - Perhaps they are looking to move the information from here. I agree, as long as this place exists, they need to ensure that they are feeding information to it. However, most companies are outsourcing their communications to social media because most have a small buy-in for maintenance (here, they need moderators and servers to maintain, on Twitter, they just need to have one guy to occassionally fire off a tweet), but still provide the interaction with their clientele. I know, for example, City of Heroes heavily leverages Facebook and UStream now, even though they have an extensive forum and internal communication system. And, honestly, I find myself seeing more of what they do BECAUSE of that.Do you know why I came to these forums in the first place? For scripting help. Not to socialize really, because I do that in SL. I didn't look for information because I can have that sent to me at my Twitter account if I so desire, or Google SL info when I need it. It's an older mentality that a game community requires a forum for it. I know, I am a part of that community to some degree. But media is shifting away from specialized resources like single-game sites and forums. Many people hop on Facebook first thing in the morning, or even check it throughout the day. It just makes sense to meet your customer where they are rather than asking them to come to you.I agree that they do need to support the forums so long as they exist, and some forums are really needed to be here (Employment, Scripting, Classified, et cetera). The level of support will likely not be the same in the heyday pre-social media, but yes right now that support does not seem to be there.
It's not that LL needs to support the forums. It's that they need to support their customers. They have a blog system fpr communicating things that customers need to know, as well as this forum. I don't care how other outfits communicate. I only care how LL communicates with their customers - because it includes me.
It's gross stupidity to turn away from their customers and only communicate to the outside world. And gross stupidity is precisely what I expect from the people who run LL. In over 5 years I've never seen much else from them.
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Arkady Arkright wrote:Sigren Panthar wrote:Well, you could join the Gestapo?
THIS ! Why are there so many nosey-parkering busybodies in SL ? Have they nothing better to do than prodnose whenever they find something slightly not to their taste ?That's a bit unfair. There are plenty of people who like to get involved when they find bots around that don't affect them at all.
Adult land was created so that people wouldn't accidentally come across adult activities on Mature land. And, believe it or not, there are a many people who prefer not to come across it, which can't be faulted. It's not something that's "slightly not to their taste". It's something that offends many people, just as it would offend them if they came across it in RL. I'm not one of them, incidentally, but I do know that it offends people, that it's against the ToS, that it's the reason why Adult land was created in the first place, and that such things should be ARed out of existance
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The first part of your post make it clear that you had entirely missed the point. But then you wrote a paragraph that showed you hadn't missed the point at all, and it made the first part of your post irrelevant.
To make it absolutely clear... There is nothing wrong with LL communicating important information via Twitter and such. But there is absolutely something wrong with LL NOT also communicating important information in their own systems, such as this forum and the blog, where the information will reach far more of their users. These places are where they can reach more of their users with important information. They can't reach anywhere near the same number on Twitter and such.
Communicating important information externally but not internally is gross stupidity. It's what I expect from the sort of people who run SL.
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As someone said earlier, in RL you can just walk on - you don't even need to look at the person.
In SL, they are not asking if I want something, as you suggested - they literally give me something, and I am forced to deal with it. Now I know that if they ask first, I would still have to deal with it, but it has hell of a different feel about it. Asking me if I'd like a group invite feels friendly and good but sending the invitation without asking first is spam in my book - whether it's in a store, or a club, or remote fishing.
Incidentally, email spam isn't limited to genuine email addresses that the spammer has acquired - not by a very long shot. Email spam goes to untold millions of invented email addresses. All they need is a domain name and they send their spam to every name and combination of characters they can come up with. I have websites - I see the stuff.
ETA: Incidentally, a bot can be made to ask the target if s/he would like a group invitation, and only send one if s/he does. But, personally, I prefer a nice big sign to click. Then I could really could walk on, without any need to stop and take some action if it doesn't interest me.
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I've been waiting to see the error message again before I add to the jira but I don't rez things all that often. However, it just happened again:-
[05:23] Second Life: Can't rez object at { 152.644, 134.012, 255.081 } because the owner of this land does not allow it. Use the land tool to see land ownership.
[05:23] Second Life: Can't rez object at { 153.394, 130.847, 255.081 } because the owner of this land does not allow it. Use the land tool to see land ownership.
[05:23] Second Life: Can't rez object at { 149.871, 132.249, 255.081 } because the owner of this land does not allow it. Use the land tool to see land ownership.
[05:23] Second Life: Can't rez object at { 153.215, 134.596, 255.081 } because the owner of this land does not allow it. Use the land tool to see land ownership.
[05:23] Second Life: Can't rez object at { 159.92, 130.923, 255.081 } because the owner of this land does not allow it. Use the land tool to see land ownership.
[05:23] Second Life: Can't rez object at { 153.18, 130.614, 253.71 } because the owner of this land does not allow it. Use the land tool to see land ownership.
I was trying to rez a bed inside my store, which is ~250m in the air. Each of those failures shows the Y co-ordinates well outside the north edge of my land, which ends at 128m, and yet I was pointing at the floor inside the store - a few meters south of those Y co-ordinates (~124m).
Now I'm off to add to the jira.
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Why I gave up my home
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That sounds like something different to what 16 meant. The problem she meant is trying to drag something from your inventory, it not rezzing, and you getting the message that the land owner doesn't allow it. It's because the end point of where you tried to rez it is on the next parcel and the process doesn't recognise objects in between where it should rez, such as a floor or wall.