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  1. 16 wrote:

    famous is maybe the wrong word but we ended up in a thread called famous q:  (:

    legendary maybe then from an historical perspective. if we want to put a name to stuff that we take for granted today 

    I have to disagree with you again. To be honest, I think that some of your posts in this thread are the only ones of yours (that I've seen) that I've actually disagreed with. Your posts are always extremely sensible. Anyway...

    "legendary" and "famous" mean pretty much the same thing. There may be subtle differences but they both mean 'well-known among the general population'. The examples you've been putting up are examples of well-know things, but the people behind the things aren't well-know at all, imo. SexGen, for instance, is a well-known think (system), but the people behind it are only known by a relatively small number of people, so they are not famous, legendary, or well-known. Another example is the Ivory thing. It's quite well-known but the person behind it isn't.


  2. Saphira Nuyasaka wrote:

    I also just noticed a bit of irony. As a "consequence" to creating this forum topic, I'm now a recognized resident. I know it's only a forum rank and doesn't actually mean anything, but I think the name is ironic to what I'm trying to not accomplish.

    Not only "recognised" but now "honored" :)

  3. I've got a solution (someone in another thread provided it).

    We can set an external editor for editing scripts and notecards (a programme on our own computers). Doing it that way allows me to have the editor on one screen and SL on the other. Saving a scipt/notecard in the external editor, updates the SL version. It's not perfect but, by comparison to nothing, it's brilliant.


  4. Innula Zenovka wrote:

    You save it to disk by choosing Save As in the editor (and giving it a sensible name and not the key that SL gives it).

    Aha! Excellent! Many thanks, Innula :heart:

    ETA: I just saw the addition to your post. Yes, I can choose which monitor a programme opens in - it's the monitor it was in when it last closed. Programme windows can be simply moved across the screens, just as they are moved across a single screen. Having two monitors is exactly the same as having one very wide monitor - when the right side of a window starts to move off the right edge of the left screen, for instance, that side start to appear on the right screen. Placing a window on the edge of one monitor shows even the window's shadow on the adjacent edge of the next monitor.


  5. Freya Mokusei wrote:

    Despite being a requested feature for years (Excuse the lack of a JIRA link) there's no way to move floaters out of the SL application. This is mostly because SL floaters are UI elements, rather than actual windows (they don't have any OS-based management system). External script editting of course bypasses this limitation in the same way external web-browsers do.

    LL could do it easily enough. When a child window is programmed, it is set to be either bound by the parent window or free to be moved outside the parent (I forget the exact terminoligy). It's just a simple property setting for the child window, and each child window has its own setting. It doesn't require any additional programming.

  6. I tried it and the external editor is excellent! It's a long way towards the ideal of freeing the window from the parent viewer; i.e. I can have the editor on the next monitor, and the viewer's edit window minimised until I need to run the script after changes.

    I don't know about it saving to my own HD though. Saving updates the viewer's copy, which is excellent, but the external editor didn't ask for a filename, so it mustn't have saved locally. At least it's a 'live' local copy and is there should anything untoward happen inworld.

  7. That sounds excellent, Innula. I'll definitely have a look at that option.

    I don't suppose there's a debug setting to release windows such as the script editor from the parent (viewer) window, is there? It would be great if I could move it out of the viewer and onto the next monitor.


  8. 16 wrote:


    Electronic Mode wrote:

    never heard about them

    they more famous for what they did. some of them did other equally famous things as well

    Steller Sunshine is also famous for being Resident No. 1

    the Duck made the first well-known megaprims using a exploit on another avatar

    Day Oh probly? made the first tpv before linden released the viewer source code. Heather Goodman made the first commercial surfing wave (i think?) Day Oh made the megaprim stick it in the ocean off-sim thingy as a freebie

    Stroker was the sexxor animator king of sl

    +

    is other people as well who are famous. 3 more are:

    Ordinal Malaprop invented just about all the math used in every script today that has anything to do with physical objects

    Pyske Phaeton has probly killed more avatars in sl than anyone ever. with his home security orb

    Desmond Shang made the first enduring integrated themed estate (steampunk) 

    These people are just not famous throughout SL. Of this list, I've heard of only one - Desmond Shang - and that's because he was a regular forum user.

    You know who all the people you named are, but you knowing who they are doesn't make them famous in SL.


  9. 16 wrote:

    famous sl avatars not linden

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    Steller Sunshine - builder

    Anshe Chung - mega baron

    Ziggy Puff - animation overrider

    Stroker Serpentine - poseball

    Adam Zaius - opensim

    Eddy Stryker - copybot

    Plastic Duck - greifer

    Argent Stonecutter - flight feather

    Luc Aubret - blitzer

    Chip Midnight - clothing template

    Day Oh - ocean waves

    Hamlet Au - blogger 

    Of those, I only recognise 5 names, and 3 of them are because they are/were regular forum users. What you said they are famous for, I wasn't aware of, and I've been in SL since 2006 so I guess they're just not famous at all - except among the older forumites.

    I've heard of 2 more from that list: one  because she made massive RL money from SL and the other because of the popular product that he was involved with (I won't say "made" :) ).

    So I would say that all but 2 of your list aren't famous in SL at all, and I very much doubt the 'fame' of the other 2.

    It's like someone said earlier, a lot of people are well-known within a relatively small group of people. I doubt that there are too many people in SL these days who know who Anshe is, and a lot less who know Stroker's name. The other 3 who I am aware of is because they were regular forum users, which gets them well-known amongst a very small minority of SL users. On the other hand, the flight feather itself, for instance, is very well-known, I think.

    I'd say the same about Lindens. I doubt that there are too many users who are aware of even Torley's name. His name is very well-known amongst those who frequent the places where he posts, of course, but that's just a comparitively small number of people.

    Just my opinions, of course.

  10. That ctrl-shift-u is rather cool, and new to me. It doesn't help with this particular problem because I want the script editor window open but using as little space as possible. Moving it outside the confines of the viewer, and onto the next monitor, would be ideal, but I don't think it can be done.

  11. No. I never really needed to do it with V1s, or rather, it didn't occur to me. It's just that going from V1 windows to V3 windows highlights how space-wasting the V3 ones are.

    An external LSL editor is an option that I just went into - I downloaded 'LSL Editor'. I don't know how useful it will be for the thing I'm working on but I'm going to suck it and see.

  12. Aha! Coincidentally, and because of these problems, I'd just been looking for an external editor. I found one but IE told me that the download page was dangerous and I should leave it, which I did. Then I downloaded an LSL syntax file for TextPad but I didn't manage to get the syntax working. Now your post comes along as an answer to my unasked question :)

    I'm on the download page for 'LSL Editor' now, and I'll download it as soon as I've posted this. Thank you! :)

  13. I've written scripts since 2007 but very little in the last year or two, and I've never come across this problem. I may have had the odd time when something wouldn't open, but so rare that I don't remember if it ever happened.

    In the last few of days, I've been frequently saving the two scripts I'm working on, and that notecard, to an external text editor (TextPad) but, even then, I lost a day's work when I copied and pasted the largest (main) script to it and shut down for the night. The next day, I found that I'd copied-pasted the wrong script so the largest one was gone and I had to write it again. I did exactly the same stupid thing yesterday, plus I'd replaced the script in the object with a copy of the wrongly saved one. For a couple of minutes, I thought I'd lost it all again but, fortunately, I still had the text editor open and a ctrl-z got it back, except for the newest changes.

    Now I'm forced into using LL's V3 and, as well as other things, I hate the waste of screen space in the script/nc editor. It's really bad design for its purpose.

  14. By "V3 windows", I mean such things as the Profile pop-up window - specifically the script/notecard view/edit window.

    I've just been forced into using LL's V3 and I don't suppose there's a way to move the pop-up windows outside the viewer itself, is there?

    I hate the way that every LL viewer since the V1 unnecessarily wastes so much space. It's really bad design - not designed suitable for purpose.


  15. Madelaine McMasters wrote:

    4-22-2162
        The failure of laws to keep up with technology, and the perils of long term space travel collide head on when, two years into Earth's first interstellar space mission, ship's chef Mortimer "MmmMmmGood" McKinnen poisons his crewmate Lumbar "Ptooey" Swiggenton, who just never appreciated his cooking. McKinnen is sentenced to death by hanging, a process that lasts nearly 26 years, ending as the ship finally enters the atmosphere of Cygnus Centauri 3 and experiences gravity for the first time since launch.

    I love that one lol

  16. I hadn't thought of it possibly being a viewer problem. I use Phoenix but I just downloaded the LL viewer and I can open everything now. With a bit of luck I'll even be able to edit-save that notecard at will, without having to close-open it each time.

    Ty for the tip :)

  17. I relogged into another sim but I couldn't open any of my own notecards or scripts from my inventory. I tried in 4 different sims but no joy.

    At this point in time, the object I'm working on has 3 scripts and 3 notecards in it. In one of the other sims, I could open all 3 scripts but none of the notecards. Back in my own sim, it's the same except that I can open the notecard that I frequently change. I expect that I'll only be able to save it once before I need to close-open it again.

    The other notecards also need to be changed sometimes, and I can't open any scripts from my inventory. The whole things has become impossible.

     

    ETA:

    Another thing that happened twice yesterday is the object I'm working on vansihed. I clicked on it one of the times and it poofed. The other time was something similar. I think that poofing was when I clicked a button in its menu, but the button isn't prohrammed to move the object. It just poofed. I just found one of them under the store. Considering that clicking to open an inventory notecard caused my camera to return to its default position - several time - those poofings don't surprise me at all.

  18. Those who are well-known in SL are well-known for different reasons.

    One of the ways is to be an opinionated loudmouth - posting anywhere and everywhere, running a blog, etc. But that only gets a person known among those who frequent places where a loudmouth can flourish.

    Another way is to create something that becomes very popular throughout SL. Or, in the case I'm thinking of, hijack something that becomes very popular throughout SL.

    And yet another way is to make a massive amount of RL cash from SL - so much that word of it, and the person, spreads.

    In other words, there is no common method by which a person can become well-known throughout SL.

    I'm not aware of anyone becoming well-known because of the way their av looks. I don't think that's even possible. For instance, I have the best looking male avatar in SL, but have you heard of me before? ;)

  19. For the last few days I've been having problems opening scripts and notecard from both an object I am working on and from my inventory. Sometimes they open and sometimes they don't. I even get a camera reset sometimes when I try to open one from my inventory, i.e. I'm scrolled back so I can see all of my av and more. Then I right click a script or notecard in my inventory, and click 'Open'. The item doesn't open but my camera resets to its default position.

    All the scripts and notecards that I'm trying to work on were created by me, so permissions doesn't come into it.

    With one notecard in an object I'm working on, and I'm frequently changing, I open it from the object (when I can open it, that is), and I can make one edit-save. Any further edit-saves fail to save, and I have to close it and open it again to do another edit-save. Sometime I even relog to get the thing open again, and that's stopped working now.

    For a short time I was going great guns by using an alt to edit that notecard. She was succeeding every time, but it didn't last long. She started getting save failures too.

    A few minutes ago, I wanted to examine an old script (in my inventory) that I wrote but I haven't yet succeeded in opening it. I passed it to the alt and she can open it, but not me.

    It's totally impossible to work like this.

    Is anyone else having similar problems?

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