Ezbeharra

Because it's been implied a number of times by various people in this thread, and I certainly never said or thought the second thing. You're doing the exact same thing the people you're arguing with are doing, reacting defensively to stuff you just outright imagine.

I guess I need to differentiate my own stance on this from others because I don't really expect this behavior to change in SL and I don't actually care all that much about whether or not it does. It's symptomatic of larger social conditions that are way out of scope of this discussion, and those social conditions cause much bigger problems than this one. I started participating in this thread because I think it's interesting to talk about, but unfortunately people are so busy fighting over what or whether something should be done about it that they haven't even stopped to discuss exactly what "it" is. Also, as someone who freely admits to being lewd in SL, I certainly am not bothered by being approached in the right circumstances, so let's be clear this is not a case of some kind of prudish indignation. Maybe others are experiencing different behavior or have different levels of sensitivity. For me, at least, there's way more cringe than outrage. And finally, let's restore the context of the start of the thread. Someone had the experience of preventing behavior toward them that they had found unpleasant, and found the improvement in their SL experience remarkable enough to comment on, and went on to discuss the possible downsides of the mechanism of prevention. This seemed to me to be an opportunity to explore two things more deeply: the behavior in question, and the advantages/disadvantages of the particular mitigation measure. But somehow from that we got: denial that the actual behavior occurs disproportionately to other behavior denial that it's actually something that the OP should have found unpleasant a bunch of stuff about feminists up to no good again (i.e., women who may or may not be feminists talking about an experience they've shared that might paint men in a negative light) extremely questionable claims about prehistory and anthropology (this is the part where the feminists get mad at me) "Political Correctness!" "Virtue Signalling!" "Snowflake!" something about Star Wars??? honestly I was pretty lost at this point and had muted about half the thread's participants Anyway, great thread, 10 out of 10. Never change, SL forums!

One of the purposes of a forum like this is for people to share and discuss their experiences. People do that all the time for other experiences in SL, both positive and negative, without a bunch of people flipping out and shrieking, "Well deal with it!" Buddy, I already do, everyone who's talked about experiencing it already deals with it. We can still talk about it. Nobody seriously thinks that there's going to be a change in behavior in SL based on a discussion that occurs on a forum that maybe a few dozen people read. So maybe take your own advice: "A lot of things are annoying to some people in this world." Yep, that includes forum topics that you find upsetting for some reason.

That some men on this forum are so fragile they feel the need to dogpile and spam any discussion that they feel threatened by until it gets shut down by some mole.

It is absolutely hilarious that anyone pointing out that having a female avatar in some places results in certain types of undesirable experiences with other users is a radical feminist who is trying to get people riled up. Not only that, but wanting to discuss and compare these experiences is apparently Political Correctness run amuck. Personally, if someone is talking about a kind of bad behavior that I don't engage in, I never feel defensive about it. But I guess I'm just built different.

She was actually being nice. I would have just ignored you. Here's a little tip. If you want to ask someone an actual question in IM, just send that person the whole question as your first message. Otherwise they're likely to think you're just wasting their time, and it's because a hundred other people before you did exactly that. It sucks that you were the 101st guy to send that woman a "hello" from a random stranger but it's not my problem, either.

I think that's an important point. We're all kind of trained to return ritual greetings but when it comes in the form of an IM, it's an opener, not a greeting, and whatever anyone else may think I do not consider it rude to just ignore them. The problem isn't men who are thirsty, it's men who take a shotgun approach to getting any. If you're thirsty but you've got even a little game, you don't need to IM every woman who drops onto the sim.

I don't buy into any gender essentialist theories about who is innately more aggressive, and I don't think there's a particular power dynamic present in SL, but both women and men bring their real world social habits into virtual worlds and those social habits are shaped by both present day and historical power dynamics. This is just a thing that exists, and I don't think anyone pointing it out is claiming it's some kind of crisis. To me, it's a nuisance, a sort of annoying background noise, but it's there and it's very funny to me that even saying it's there has people on the defensive.

So a "snowflake" is someone who says, "I have noticed that something unpleasant occurs in certain situations." Got it.

Yeah a lot of it really is just being a woman on the internet. But it's funny how just pointing this out—without even saying that something in particular needs to be done about it—gets a bunch of defensive replies.

So you're saying that men, much like the weather, have no volition, agency, or responsibility for their behavior.

The people who like them, like them, but I'd say there's a bit of a surplus population of large monsters. Goblins, on the other hand, are few and far between but never seem to lack for company.

It really can be a nuisance but it depends on where you go and how you look. I've just become comfortable with ignoring people I don't want to talk to. That doesn't mean you have to make yourself available to talk to just anyone, especially when there are some people who take any reply as encouragement.

Not buying the item doesn't tell the seller anything, actually. The seller has no way of knowing whether someone was considering buying the item or why they decided against it. Businesses pay a lot of money to try to figure these things out and even then it's a lot of guesswork. So, arguably, the OP was trying to do creators a favor, under the mistaken assumption that more that a few creators might ever see the thread or that the SL Fashion forum has any kind of reach outside of a few dozen people.

I don't know anything about the pregnancy options but as a mostly happy Legacy owner I'll mention a couple of things to check while you're demoing to make sure you can live with them: Spend some time using the Styles part of the HUD and make sure you can live with it, especially the fact that you have to have Media enabled to use it (just the Styles part, though, and you can turn Media off when you're not). Personally, I almost never use the Styles tab of the HUD, aside from the initial setup to turn BoM on, because it suuuuuucks. I even bought mesh nails to avoid using it (Cazimi Ballerina nails, best L$1 I ever spent) unless I need to paint my toenails. Note that you can turn the body's nails on and off with gestures now, it's just painting them that requires the HUD. Get some demo garments that are scripted to activate the alpha cuts, and try putting them on and then taking them off a few times. Notice how slooooow the alphas get painted back in. A real shocker if you've switched from literally any other mesh body. Try it on a laggy sim for real agony. I just avoid things that activate alphas, which my personal style allows, but if you like lots of cover and you also change your clothes a lot this may really be a problem for you. If I could have gotten the shape I wanted with eBody Reborn I probably would have gone with that instead, but Legacy was the only popular body that did what I wanted. Both bodies seem to be popular enough to be well supported by apparel creators so I don't think you can make a bad choice here.