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19 hours ago, Stephanie Lovely said:

Agree with this. Venues with lots of people standing around, and nobody chatting in local does not mean that everyone is AFK. They are talking in IM. I see people come into these places though and say "Oh, everyone is AFK", because nobody is using local chat, while I am chatting to 4 different people there in IM. It's up to the individual to make an effort to be social and not expect other people to do it.

I'll often leave venues where there is a lot of chat in local, because the chat tends to be dominated by annoying, attention seeking people. Some people like that sort of thing though.

I do message people and I do get a response sometimes. Not always but sometimes. I do think some are AFK. Because I have talked with people that do Real Life things around their house while leaving their avatar sitting there. That's what they tell me when they come back from AFK. 

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On 8/15/2022 at 3:56 PM, Zombina Gunawan said:

I am definitely an "oldbie" at 15 years, but I admittedly spent about 5 years or so away before coming back about a year ago. I do think that it is less sociable. I'm definitely an introvert but I feel like even in clubs and things no one is really that talkative. Maybe I'm just going to the wrong places lol but it's been difficult to find new friends since most of mine are just names that never log in these days. 

I agree with you. Second Life just doesn't seem like it used to be when I started Second Life. I mean you add people to your friends list and then you message them the next day asking if they want to hang out, they either don't respond or they say they are busy. Not always but a lot of the times. I know when I started Second Life and added friends on my friends list. I would have messages when I logged in and asking me if I wanted to hang out. Now it just seems it's not like that anymore in Second Life. I mean you do once in a while hang out with someone. But not like it was.

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On 8/14/2022 at 7:02 AM, AnnabelleApocalypse said:

I asked this earlier, and basically it all comes down to......

Do you think there is less people in Second life, then before?

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On 8/12/2022 at 4:20 PM, Seicher Rae said:

Guku, I know you've voiced this several times, that "it is coming back" or will come back. I'm curious, what makes you say that? How have you seen things change?

If you've answered this before, apologies, I haven't read through the entire thread.

Well, for one a lot of old avatars are coming back I been seeing in Second Life. So that should help to make the socializing come back. I heard there were less people in Second Life now. 

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On 8/9/2022 at 7:05 AM, colleen Criss said:

I have tried clubs, beaches if there is a crowd it seems to me it's all gestures ( that gets old fast) very little local chat so I assume all are in IMs . In appropriate  IMs come and are nicely responded to with a no thank you. A really good DJ/Host duo often try to keep local chat going. I think most chat in voice, skype or discord. So yes less social in that aspect.

I agree with you. But I know the socializing will come back some day to Second Life how it used to be. I do think it's coming back slowly. 

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20 hours ago, Lysistrata Szapira said:

I can't speak for all of SL, but I can definitely say I'm less social. 

I'm a terrible introvert, so I rarely get chatty in IMs.  Sometimes if a stranger IMs me, I kind of panic and log off because I'm just not in the mood for sussing out someone's motivations for IMing me in the first place.  If it's a simple compliment with no intentions of trying to pixel sex me, I will thank the person and move on. 

I hang out at a club on weekends where people tend to be chatty in text, not just gesturbating.  I'll talk then if a topic comes up that interests me.  I like to be a comedian when the opportunity presents itself.   I've had a couple people there send friends requests which I accepted because they're regulars too, but I tend to think people are busy so I don't want to bother them outside the club. It's very rare that I will send a friend request, especially to male avatars as I don't want to give any impression that I'm looking for romance/sex.   I just like group chat more than individual chat, so I don't have to try to carry the conversation.

 

 

Well, there are some people that are less social in Second Life. I understand that some people will be. But for me I am not, and I am very sociable person. That's why it can be frustrating sometimes when people say they are busy or don't respond to you. Second Life used to be where you log in and you get messages from your friends list wanting to hang out and do something with you. But it just seems like it's not like that anymore in Second Life

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20 hours ago, Katherine Heartsong said:

Not sure how "less social" it is since I only dabbled years back and was never here long, but judging from the 20+ avatars that just stand around the fringe at some of the EDM places (Exhale) not moving at all during the busy times, with no one near them, I'll go with less social. Looks like a giant AFK place sometimes.

That is true a lot of people afk  a lot. But I just think the socializing is not in Second Life like it used to be. I am hoping that one day it will come back

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On 8/5/2022 at 2:28 PM, HeathcliffMontague said:

Maybe. I hope so, but don't really think so anytime soon. Not unless we try, anyway. But you can't force anyone to be more social.

Even in the six years or so I've been here I've noticed a difference. I tend to hang out at the places I know too, and even if I find new places (for me anyway) they tend to be similar. So I guess I'm part of the problem as well.

Dunno. To me it seems to be a combo of people being set in their ways and viewing things through rose-colored glasses. But newbs are coming in, and if I see someone seeming lost, in a field I kwow well, I at least try to reach out at bit.

I agree with you people getting set in their ways. Oh, I do try to message people, but they are busy half the time. Not all but a lot of people on my friends list are or they don't respond. Sometimes they do but not all of them. Or when I add someone as a friend we talk even after adding. Then the next day you try to message them they either are busy, or they do not respond to you at all.  Like I said I am not saying everyone is like that, but it just seems a lot of people are like that now. Like back when I started Second Life you message someone on your friends list, and they respond and if you ask Did you want to hang out, they would say yes and you go hang out with them. Plus, you would get other people messaging you asking you to hang out with them. Now it's like no one wants to hang out with anyone like that anymore in Second Life. I mean people hang out together but not like how it was back then.

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2 minutes ago, Persephone Emerald said:

A friends list can be used in many different ways. It doesn't necessarily mean people I want to hang out with in SL, especially if I have a couple hundred people on my list. I do often tell newbies that I have enough friends on my list when they send me a friend request, but sometimes I friend them and tell them to IM me if they have any problems or questions about SL. That's supposed to help them when they're new. It doesn't mean I want to come to their club set, be their erotic RP partner, or listen to their drunk self sing over their guitar and karaoke machine. 

lol. Yeah, true lol

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On 7/29/2022 at 10:14 PM, MissV82 said:

I so feel this!!! I too miss the old days/clubs. I feel as if people seem to mostly keep to themselves now.

Yes, I agree. But do you think the socializing will come back like it was back in the day of Second Life? 

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On 7/29/2022 at 9:38 PM, DeeVious Dagger said:

I have been is SL for too long lol and it has changed drastically... most not all populated clubs have bots and nobody talks but cliques Back in the day EVERYONE spoke in local. You couldnt even keep up with chat. People were friendlier.. more friend oriented now everything is about hooking up. I dont even answer IMs anymore. If i goto a club I try to dance away from males because if you land next to them they are in your ims hitting on you. I miss old school clubs so much! 

Yes, I remember those days. Now it's like everyone doesn't even want to hang out any more like back in the day of Second Life. Do you think it is because there are less people in Second Life and that's why the socializing isn't there like it used to be?

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3 minutes ago, Persephone Emerald said:

Maybe we need to put badges on our profiles that label us a social, mostly social, mostly not social, or not social? 

I'm sometimes in a mood to help newbies or be social, but I'm often not in a mood to be social. Don't try to make me be social when I don't want to be, and don't irritate me with IMs when I'm having a serious discussion with someone else. If I say I'm busy or don't respond, leave me be. You and every other person who doesn't really know me in RL doesn't get to decide I should be friendly and sociable when I don't want to be friendly and sociable.

See my Oscar the Grouch post above.

Oh, I agree with you on that. But then why be added on a friends list if you don't want to hang out then or your too busy to hang out?

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On 7/17/2022 at 11:20 AM, Sid Nagy said:

With SL I have the feeling, that I've seen it all, been there, done that.
The first few years I had many friends and contacts in SL, but one after another called it a day and never logged in again, and I never really bothered to make new ones. The still active persons on my friends list can be counted easily with one hand. And there is nobody else to blame but me, myself and I that it happened.
I seldom go out to explore or to an event.
One can't expect people to knock on your door.
I use 99% of my SL time business related, although I will not run away if someone starts a chat.

If there are more people in SL with a similar story as I have, than yes, SL has become a bit less Sociable over the years.
And that there are less real noobs these days doesn't help either I guess. Long term people tend get settled within their own groups of friends IMHO.
 

I Agee with you that long term people tend get settled within their own groups of friends. But I am very sociable and I am always looking to hang out with people. And it just gets frustrating sometimes when people don't want to hang out like they use to like it was back in the day. I mean you could log in Second Life back in the day and get messages from people on your friends list. Now it's like maybe you might get one message from someone or a few and that's about it. Or no one messages you at all when you log in. But before you would get messages and hang out with people. I do believe it will come back to Second Life like it used to be

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13 minutes ago, Seicher Rae said:

Less. More so by the year.

Yes, I agree. But you can still find some people that want to hang out like back in the day what Second Life was back then. I can sometimes find some people to hang out with. Not like it was though. Like I said on here before. Like back in the day, you would be hanging out with some people then all of a sudden you get messages from others on your friends list asking you to hang out with them as well. And it's like what happen to that part of Second Life?  Oh, sure you can still find people to hang out with but not like it was. But I do believe the people in Second Life will be socializing again. Like it was

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On 7/17/2022 at 2:38 AM, Gabriel Isodo said:

Secondlife is definitively not friendly for me

I open my account many years ago. When I started playing again, I had to relearn all. I didn't find anybody who helpt me. I think people assume that I am old then I know all.

The most difficult part is not technical part (how to create an avatar) but social. When you talk to people the ratio of answer tend to decrease. (When I start talking with 10 people how many answer I have ).

And when you got an answer, I try to make sentences with verbs etc... and I receive one word. like good or hi or ok

If I don't ask question and say something (not a question) I have no interaction. Usualy I try to make a conversation with the minimum of question. Because I think questions can be aggressives.

I also notice that if I don't start a conversation I don't talk to anybody

What is your ratio of you start a conversation and somebody else. For me it should be 9.5/10

Having conversation is not having a friend. For me friend is someone who talk with you, and help you and have fun with you.

 

I understand that some people is not in front of keyboard but for me they don't play. when I am online I am 100% online. I don't let my avatar and go away. I don't like that for other I usualy don't do that. I think it is rude.

 

I notice that the 'presence' varie.

an other idicator I invent is how long I wait. if it is 5 seconds it is normal but sometime sI wait many minutes to get answer.

 

Then my friendly indicator is :

- time to wait an answer

- answer ration

- who start conversation. More it is you more it is not friendly (9.5/10 for me)

But it is fun to make this statistics. I will update them and tell you the new metrics. What are your indicators to measure friendlyness ?

Well, I know when I first started Second Life people seem more sociable than they are now. And I do message people to start a conversation up. And then ask if they would like to be friends after a while in a conversation. Then we add each other.  And the next day you try to message them they either won't respond to you, or they say they are busy. I am not saying everyone is like that. But you do have some people that are and won't respond to you at all. Or are busy all the time.  Like when I first started Second Life you had people messaging you and wanted to see if you wanted to hang out while you're hanging out with others. Now it just seems everyone doesn't want to do that as much in Second Life anymore. But I know it will come back the socializing like it used to be in Second Life. 

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1 hour ago, PheebyKatz said:

I used to chat with bots in malls, until one day the owner of a store made one ask me if I was ever going to buy anything. XD

We recently had a surge in membership, like over the past couple of years. Once the casuals and bored/boring types get tired of it and go back to Facebook, the ones who are left will probably be a lot like the rest of us, and all will be well.

As long as the rest of us don't fall to pieces in the meantime. Stay strong! Stay sociable! Remember, it's what WE make of it, so keep influencing your personal space with a friendly, outgoing energy and it will help. We gotta cultivate these rhubarbs!

I do agree with you stating, “It’s what we make it”. It’s my opinion second life is as good as we make it. Although there may be some bad apples in the bunch, does not mean eating that apple pie is going to be a bad experience.

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18 minutes ago, PheebyKatz said:

And this is why I spend so much time with my Crayolas. They're certified non-toxic. ^-^

Well for me I need to be around people. I mean true you can be around items you have but then you can't socialize with anyone. I do hope how Second Life use to be for socializing comes back. And I do believe it's coming back slowly 

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15 minutes ago, PheebyKatz said:

Yeah, I know how that is. It's an experiment, kinda. I'm wondering how many will appear again, and if they're still the same as they were.

My old account, there's no way I'd unblock those, even in an attempt to redeem my sense of being social and fair.

And my very first account, I just deleted the whole thing, because there's no way I'd want any of those people to know it's me over here, lol.

"Mistakes were made". XD

The thing is some people that are toxic don't want to change anything about themselves. Some people want to stay toxic in Second Life and it is sad that they are like that. But then there are some people that are not toxic in Second Life. 

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2 hours ago, PheebyKatz said:

The only time I hesitate to block anyone is on my home sim, because then I can't see if they're doing anything bad on the sim. I'm the local security brat, so I kinda need to be able to see people.

If I'm at home, and I HAVE to block someone, at least they usually get a nice permanent ban to go with it. Nobody there lets anyone treat me badly and get away with it. On rare occasions when I simply cannot stand someone but they haven't done anything banworthy, I just avoid them, or when they see me, they leave. Either way it's fine by me.

I recently unblocked all 58 people on my list. After over 6 years, maybe some of them deserve a second chance. So far I haven't been bothered by any of them. Maybe they learned their lessons the first time. The moment one of them is gross or pooey at me tho... bloop~! I'll block 'em again.

Addendum: Of course, some of them will never bother me again because they've been kicked out of SL. Not only are the Lindens real, they actually do look at ARs and things, and despite having a lot to deal with all the time, they really do try their best. Consider what it must be like for them.

Herding cats is hard enough when you don't have thousands of them with alts and stuff, stampeding all around and treating the world like a sandbox, or worse.

I agree with what you're saying here. But to unmute all the people you had muted. I am not too sure on that. Because for me I still see some of the people I have muted at places I go and visit sometimes. Even though I have no idea why they were muted in the first place when I don't have any chat history on the one's I have muted when I see them. Some I do have chat history. 

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1 hour ago, PheebyKatz said:

Block 'em. If they get in the way of your goodness in SL, just block 'em. all they'll see is that you poofed.

Then when they realize youre still there and people are enjoying talking to you, and theyre the only one who's left out, feel good knowing they did it to themselves, and that maybe it'll help them learn to be a better person. And if it doesn't, well, it's not your fault. You tried.

It's your SL, you deserve to enjoy it.

Oh, I do put them on mute if they are really mean

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6 minutes ago, PheebyKatz said:

Block 'em. If they get in the way of your goodness in SL, just block 'em. all they'll see is that you poofed.

Then when they realize youre still there and people are enjoying talking to you, and theyre the only one who's left out, feel good knowing they did it to themselves, and that maybe it'll help them learn to be a better person. And if it doesn't, well, it's not your fault. You tried.

It's your SL, you deserve to enjoy it.

I agree. 

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36 minutes ago, PheebyKatz said:

I ventured off my home sim to see a friend at a coffeeshop. The first words I saw were in regards to there suddenly being too many people there. Place was over half empty.

I proceeded to converse with my friend, a sister, and a nice man who was polite and knew them both.

Then I see someone has decided to chime in about adding something nasty about me, personally, to their profile. Way to show you're better than a little person who builds cities for people like you to explore. What a friendly welcome to someone who hadn't even spoken a word to or about them.

I'm not antisocial, I just hate going to otherwise lovely places that are cacked on by people who contribute nothing to our world but crass garbagey poop, and wonder if maybe something happened to all those places they used to hang out and torment newbies instead of people who are actively building a nice SL for them to sit around and spit on.

Worst of all is when it's people who've been inworld for 16 years and should know better.

I greet people every single day. I offer help, landmarks, free things, and even a chance at friendship to nearly every single person I meet, or even dots I see and don't already know the names attached to. It's just that after several years of seeing the same old pooey behavior in return for my enthusiasm and cheerfulness, I'm more likely to block an entire place full of people so I can sit and enjoy a pixel coffee with a friend than I am to bother trying to fix people who are only in SL because it tolerates the kind of folks who would be handed their own posterior anywhere else in this world, and who probably have nowhere else to go.

I know some people can be really mean to this day in Second Life. I know it isn't right for anyone to treat anyone bad in Second Life. But people do and it is sad when they do that. I mean yeah, I can go to different sims and explore there. But what if I like the sim I am on and I like talking with people there?  

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4 hours ago, Brightstar7777 said:

A heart still beats with life; this old machine still has a ghost or two in it. It was magical to see this at the opening to SL19B.

Oh wow. That's cool

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17 hours ago, Jade Morningstar said:

You mean like when you go to a club or something, and tell someone they look nice just to be shot in the face with a F-off LOL....  Yea people are just peachy...  

I tend to just block them once they say something like that.  No reason to even see them if they are that negative.

Yeah, some people in Second Life can be mean. 

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1 hour ago, Cali Souther said:

If you ever look at the green dots ...  you find 2 dots here, 2-3 dots there ...  and only a few places where there are a group of dots.

Speckled population lol

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