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I would like to describe it as "builder-chic": Half made meshes, non textured pre-samples, glamorous bald, because hair gets in the way when testing clothing, oh and random alpha layers.

Its not exactly an issue with the rigging but an issue with the uploading of the mesh. This puffy eyes thing only appears when the mesh is uploaded with the include joints checked. Unless its for a tiny avatar this shoudnt be checked and only include weights should be checked.

I dont think giving away psd with the texture for you to modify them is a posibility at all. This is due to several things. One is that at least with mesh, most people use templates and their part of the work is making these textures for that specific template. Most times these templates has TOS regarding of the use of the them and this often include the use of the texture base offered in them. Some other time this is not the case but, since its the retail merchant part of the work to make these textures, then why would they give it away full perm as a psd for every costumer thay buy a copy of this item that was not full perm to beggin with?, I dont think they will or should. Another issue is that some times with non mesh, they use textures made by others and so they are not permited to distribute them at all. Also, some huds and scripts for texture change and such force the merchant to put the item non mod beeing that the script itself is non mod. For all this, most mesh clothing items out there are not mod. I agree that in the case of the alphas they should be mod and he alpha texture should be aviable for the costumer to modify it but, is not like every costumer knows how to do this anyway. The only way i see that you would get to put your own texture is if you buy the original full perm template and do as you like with it. Like retail merchants do

Not to say, that its a model the OP designed and wanted in particular. Not just any model. Is not like the person had it premade. She want it custom to her. Seriously if you want a specific model be made for you, then you need to realize its going to take time and time needs to be paid. And it doesnt matter if its just pixels. Can be pixels can be whatever. Can be done by a hobby st or by a pro. On the back is a person work time. You say 100U$S is half your paycheck or half your rent?, then you should understand that pay 4U$S for a day work is really not good. So, dont get offended when people tell you their rates. They can be good or bad according to you, but think twice, how much would you pay yourself for the same ammount of time. By the way, 100U$S on that dress is a bit less that I would rate it, because the shape of the skirt with the huge slit on it, makes me want to cry when i think of rig and alpha it. So if you found a person that will be making it for 4$ please post his name. I would love to see what he does for that amount.

I think that if you buy a full perm item that includes a .dae file and a clear TOS like the one it was posted here by the OP, then its unethical to resale derivates in full perm mode. Usually .dae files are given away so merchants that buy templates can so several things with them, like bake textures, upload the mesh in their names, add details and modifications if the skills are enough. But obviously they arent meant to be resold full perm, I think otherwise it will state it in the TOS. Something around the lines of: Do whatever wih these files. By the OP saying that it spend a week working on the derivate of the mesh I have two conclusions. One, if you have a week to spend working on a mesh, then start a new one. Two, if it took you a week to change a mesh, then perhaps you are not skilled enough to sell templates and therefore you shoudnt use other people work as a starter for your own projects. And I really think that if you need to ask that its ok to make it, its probably because it isnt most of the times

Re: Please, Merchants, stop the madness. [ Edited ] Reply to Drake1 Nightfire - view message ‎05-11-2014 01:20 PM - edited ‎05-11-2014 01:22 PM Ill tell you exactly why L.L. wont force their removal. Because the whole point of limited stock merchandise is to jack up prices along with lots of quick sales in a short period of time, (something that L.L. greatly desires thinking they will make more money themselves in the process, and even in the long run). So as a reward for merchants who do that, L.L. is effectively giving these merchants greater exposure through more merchandise listings, and thereby creating an incentive for continuing the annoying, yet in reality money losing practice. **Only uploaded images may be used in postings**://secondlife.i.lithium.com/html/assets/emoticons/mattemotes/confused.png" border="0" alt=":matte-motes-confused:" title="" /> Why you think the point of limited items is to jack up prices? In my opinion, as a limited item seller, this is not the case. Also, I do not do a lot of quick sales, in fact i do LIMITED Sells of each product. A limited item can be sold quick, or not, depends on the item, the time of the year and i dont know what else. But they do not all sell quick. About jacking up prices, I think over cheap products do this work, rather than quality more expensive ones. I can speak about mesh items, because is what I do. The mesh items you can find on the top selling page, are all priced at around 250 lindens, full perm. If you take a moment to think how many dollars 250 lindens is, You will find its about 1 or so. A mesh item can take several days of work, i had some i worked on for weeks. I work full time on them, meaning i do 8 hours work per day. If an item, takes me say 40 hours of work to be made, how can i sell it for 1 dollar a copy giving them away full perm? There is no work that pay that ammount. I agree that some people do it just for the love of it, but I do it to pay my son´s education, and I cant do it with 1 dollar. Its a costumer choise, to see if they want to buy limited or not. Limited items, usually have more options to them, usually include files for meshes and texturing, and also they are granted to be exactly that, limited. The store that chooses limited over full perm, knows that not everyother store will have the same template, and allows them to work harder on the texturing and marketing, since the competition on this item, will be all about that, and not prices. Also, I dont see how LL is rewarding limited item sellers at all.

I wasnt by all means rude at you, I just stated what seemed obvious for me. It still seem obvious so i wont take it back; if circumstances were different i might have done it. But i still believe the same. I would have continue beeing polite at you, if you would not send me an im inworld saying how wrong i was in my comment and then rush your answer here, beeing sarcastic and saying how we all people in here had no life and only saw the bad on people. I can garantee you, that is not the case. But like peri said some had been around long enough to know better and honestly, i dont apreciate beeing taked as stupid. You may find interesting or nice to play clueless, i dont. I bet there are two sides of this, some will think youre right, some will see it the other way. For me the most important here is that you should respect both positions. And i dont see you doing this.

"I wasnt there and no one saw me there. Thats that folks". And as you have the right to say whatever comes out of your self proclaimed clueless brain, tell all of us that we have no lifes and only see the bad in people, we have full right to think whatever we like and say it. And incredible enough, there seem to be a lot of us that think alike about your posts. Does it mean we have the true? No. But we can still think it is.

I did not though about the keywords. Ill do that with my sold out. Its not to proof that i uploaded it first, to lindens, but to create some sort of costumer awareness. It has been told that people dont read much, and that they hardly look what store they are buying from. I do this so my costumers and specially new ones, can recognize my store as the original source of the products. I will remove the keywords of sold out if that helps. I already change the name of the sold out products and also remove their demos. And again I agree there is so much i would like to be seen improved in mp. For instance, when a merchant says this product is limited to "x" amount of copies, lindens will tell costumers there is limited copies of this, but wont tell them how many are aviable, or how many has been sold. This gives room to change the ammounts aviable at will, and it dont help costumers at all. I think if you commit to sell a determinate amount of items, you should stick to that amount, and I think it will be a nice tool to let costumers know this.

Please if you need to reply on anything I post here, do it in here. Dont send me im. I wont reply to them. And again this place is not to paste a link to your store, you know this, or at least you should know it. I was wrong, someone did ask you about the dress, but i dont think it was so you could post a link to your store. But i was right and you did paste a pic of your dress without anyone asking anything. I would like to assume im free to think whatever I like, and I think youre trying to advertise your shop in the most weird way ive seen in time, not just once, but twice. And youre free to think whatever you like about me, and my thoughs. But hey, every publicity is publicity, right??...right?...well, I would like to think not. But thats just me.

I sell limited items, and i do keep them listed, tho i change the names once they are sold out. There is a reason to do this, and its so that people can recognize those products are from my store. This is not out of an ego issue, but a practical one. I had my store items sold on fraud stores more than once. At one moment, all the items of my store were sold at a fraud store. The only way I have to people to know hose items were mine, is to keep them listed.b But, even tho I dont think its a good idea to poof the items, I agree there should be an option for them to appear as history items, so people could see them but they would not appear as for sale.

Yet another weird post. About 90% of those kind of mesh dresses use an alpha below so there is no underskirt to be looked at, just transparent space. I readed the post, and no one asked he Op to post a pic of the dress she was was wearing, and no one asked were did she got her dress to beging with. So there was no need to post the link to her store in here. Im sorry, but to me the whole thing sound like the previous post by the same person, and it begings to sound old. Plus, not that someone asked me, but if i get kicked out of a sim like that, i would never come back there, and even less the same day, so i can get harrased by my rl pic, and the i can come here and tell everyone so they can take a look at it aswell. So im with the idea at the the moment, that this post was made with second intentions. Do this taking all of us for dumbs one time, and you may get away with it, or sound clever almost. Do it twice, and most probable is, that it will work against you.

Regular social skills need to be learned. Its never the same to text someone tan to speak to someone looking at their eyes. Sounds old, I bet, but its true. Also for some kids I dont if all its very difficult to find interest in the real life after they spend their time playing in vw or whatever game online. And finally some kids mix reality with fantasy, even some adults do it. Saying this i mean if they get hurted in the game/vw they feel sad in rl. Ive seen this with minecraf. Again im not saying this goes for every kid, but at least mine, he seems happier when he is off games and internet. This comming from a mom that got rased in a higly tecnological home. I had a computer when no one around had it. My father sent me to learn how to program at age 8. I got to chat and play computer games when most of my friends didnt had a clue what was that. But to my sadness my parents always controled that i didnt spend much time in front of the pc. I understand now why. Next generation is a native generation, they will use all the tools no doubt and im not saying they need not to use them. Just saying that somethings are better to be left for when they grow up and can understand the full use an consecuences of what they do.

I might be old fashioned but, to me a teen should be out there socializing and seeing things, and not playing in a VW. I have a 7 yo to whom i allowed to play minecraft for about 3 months. The moment he started playing it he got absent. He woudnt even listen to what happend around. It was too inmersive for him, and him beeing a kid coudnt manage it. So i took that away from him, magically i got my kid back. So, again I do feel kids or teens, should be doing something else outside and not in sl or other vw.

"Jejeje", "Jajajaja" and "Jijiji" its all laughs in spanish. Its a matter of taste really to choose wich one you like the best. For some personal taste, to me Jejeje sounds like a cheeky laugh and Jijiji more like a giggle, and then jajaja more like a regular laugh.