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trust me i got hell from those owners when i hired one of their x staff members and she told me exactly everything about them using those bots. this is 3 year long story to tell if asked all true they are pushing their luck. and today they are still geting away with it. they have a security guy in LL that helps them get away with it. i reported it at the first of year. and i thought they were gone but yet they returned. back with their old tricks. do not trust traffic, it is all rigged, and inacurate. i rather have great friends that help out and have fun than battle it out just for traffic that laggs up my region's quality is way beter than traffic. have a nice day.

lol well that is a royal pain. for my chat server must be the problem because mine keeps going offline daily and they just do not want to tell or fixx it group chat may work for a few days then bann off for a week. going on for 3 days. then someone after ticket restarts it and i may be on for a few hours then bang noting completely dead. no return messages it is like offline all the time here. i been complaining about it for 3 years. they dont want to look into the prob either. now i just get closed tickets imediately when i send them. they know what it is and dont want to fix it. 3 years of this? and they dont look not even one of the ops even look to see if they can send anything? it is hard to keep a group chat with my venu that we give ufo and other fun thngs out when it is always dead. but my other groups work fine.

well the gathering bots, camping poofers and gatherers can not gather lindens now ha ha. the the owners of those tp gathering bots would logg of for a while maybe it will come back up.. i bet one of them got mad and atacked sl, lol

hello all. well i have figured out how to fight back with the masice as i counted 26,000 bots tping and going after lnden givers ect and traffic gaining. i had a big bot farm who is now going under go against me and my groups, and sim. constantly. untill i cleared out everyone for a week. and loged the bots. then it struck me if they are using bots we all can fight back. i have a moto that realy works. real people and no bots. that caused flack with the bot owners. then i decited to get an realy great antibot security and wow it is designed to imediately send these bots home to the owners and reset their scripts. making the bot owners that are using them frustrated. and lag their own sim. and it will show. i dont like laggy bots coming in and laging my sim and steeling lindens. i rather give lindens to people not bots. so i use the security and sploders proper. having security that rsets the bots scripts and send them home is a great idea. and it is catching on real fast. if you realy dont want bots in your land and real people forget the broken stat. and get a antibot security and then these idiots will stop placing or sending them your way. and if they have a big bot farm they will not like reprograming these all day. also i think and looking up tha it is not anymore legal for these bots to go out and land on other sim's. the bots are supose to stay on their own land not go out. that is what i dee in the tos.

now let me put up the senario. you are a normal person. you go look in the hotspot destination looking for friends. yay. you get on their groups like normal. then you see a invite to a rivery sim. club or sploder you go there yay. but try to return to the origional hotspot you came from. bam. yo were banned for geting on the other rivery sim's club or sploder. and you complain to them why did you bann me. boo. they say back that they have banned you for visiting the rivery sim and have their group in your group list. so you go to the rivery sim asking why. they do not know why they banned them you sis nothing but join that group as a place to go. so you ask them to please unbann the person and they refuse to. but they can not go there any more mad because it is in the high stat hotspot. but they did not see over 60 people in there but a few. i keep daily geting complaints because of the way they are doing this. so i put up a blog.try everything to get them to leave my land group alone but they use the right i can do what i want. whih is true. would you be mad if they did this to you when you did nothing but join another rivery group.???

also i forgot banning the individual is good but to prebann other rivery sims using the estate banning is bad without any lagit reason. i am not the only one complaining here. i have over 40 other sims complaining because of the estate prebaning of rivery sims. we had people come get on the sploder go there and get banned. so they punish the boor fela that goes out to get on other land rivery sploders to get lindens. making them mad. un ethical estate banning. using bots or scripted bots.

ok you have not read the and understood the pont. they have a huge bot farm on their sim. cheeting the gaming hotspot stats like chat hotspot. ok. which people like to sim hop. looking around. but when they get there mine and other sim hoppers have their rivery sim losted in their groups. they join another land group to use sploders club boards ect. then they return there and their bot will read the group list see it then ban them from their land making the sim hoppers mad. they leave not going back. but come back to the rivery sim complaining. as they complain to them why. they say trols ect. the thing is people are afraid to visit rivery sims now knowingthey might get banned elsewhere and they are mad at them and the rivery sim. who did nothing to them. and to get the traffic they cheet the destination hotspot in sl. in a way they hurt them selves, pay for all that advertising. clog up lag their sims. with the bots. but they hurt rivery sims with a unethical mind game. also will lie about the other sims to try to control them. this is what i ment. i am not the only one complaining. but the prebanning and destination stats are compromized by the, they need to stop using bots to cheet the stats. as for the rest the are paying for huge advertising, but banning the other sims. they do not like. or feel is beter. i am kinda glad they are doing this let them spend the moneys. as for the 700+ go convert 20,000 lindens a week. and all the stuff for clubs ect. it ads up alot.

well here is a sad story about this subject. i looked over my finances and see i am dishing out over 700+ dollars a month just to try to have a public full sim. and to have some idiots come on my land grab my tags and using bots on their land to get gaming stats and tell them not to go to my land and i now know 40 other rivery sims. the people are confused. and new do not know what to think. when i did nothing to them but aply art i learned over the 40 years. i complain. report the harassment. and get boycoted becase i helped others report the wrong doings. no onw will visit my land in feet they would be boycoted as well. in fact they now have taken me down. most people say it is not fair they are using bots and prebaning everyone who visits other lands but theres. then using bots to cheet the stats as well. my rant is over and so is about 40 other sim renters. they feel it is not worth geting a sim then geting harassed by these two guys. who use the bots and use privacy violations to bann people. i would rather spend 700 dolars on something else than being harassed almost daily by their punishung bann bots. section 6 has it all. and i report it and nothing but them harassing back more. and i lose all the hard work. the estate owners feel the same. the bots need to go. that uses them to target other sims.

There the fact remains. i got this list because they sent them out and they came to my land. Also they are violating tos section 6 rules 6.2 You agree that you will not post or transmit Content or code that may be harmful, impede other users' functionality, invade other users' privacy, or surreptitiously or negatively impact any system or network. You agree to respect both the integrity of the Service and the privacy of other users. You will not: (i) Post or transmit viruses, Trojan horses, worms, spyware, time bombs, cancelbots, or other computer programming routines that may harm the Service or interests or rights of other users, or that may harvest or collect any data or information about other users without their consent; 6.3 Additional rules of conduct apply to users of Second Life: In addition to the rules set forth in Sections 6.1 and 6.2 above, you agree that you will not: (i) Use robots or other automated means to increase traffic to any Virtual Land; (ii) Operate or profit from a "game of chance". For more information please see our Gambling Policy; just look at the hotspot list chat spot it is there plain as day. Then they ban anyone that has a rivery group. They do not like. end of story. tos tells it all. And everyone knows they are doing it. ll is doing nothing.

this is true. they complain to them but they will not stop prebaning my land group. most of them left there anyway and scatered out elsewhere.. i realy do not care what they do. it is their land. i found a beter way to stop the bot invasion. like you said. i did take down those wasted things. and moved on. also to help i changed my group. leting them complain to them. i just advertise. more. and beter results. they are mad at them. the idiots will still band them on other lands doing same group thing. so why have groups if they target and ban whole groups. i put an abrupt stop to the stuff when i desolved the group and used other means like skype and fb. lol this is probably last rant i do. figured out how to do this outside sl. and it works beter. let them kill their own sims. i will not alow them to take me down. others say same thing. drop group, use other means and it works.

by the way i have a huge list of unregistered bots i gave to linden labs of these bots going to my land geting lindens. i put out a visitor tracker and took the list cross referenced it found them in two sims. one went down after the bot owners found me tagging the bots coming in steeling. the others had beenbaned by linden labs.

aperently this guy must be working with tham. the point is they are cheeting the stats and using it outright to harass using banning land group script banners. on rivery sims. making a sim owners war. which should not be. i now see why youtube and everyone i know is upset with land group banning and using stats to get onlookers traped in this land war.

the fact is bots should not be counted in any stats, or go out in other peoples lands and cheet the lindengivers. and poof.

now i can and mentioning the name if requested. this is totaly wronk. a person just came to get lindens from my sploder which is set as group only hasnever been to you know who. and had my land group i even changed and made a new group. and to test this. she just had my new group tag with my land keys in her group list. she was going there for a while. and everyoe that got my tag in their group list was banned. she said she is mad that the owners would purposly bann rivery lands as punishment for visiting it. i seem to be geting no where. these guys are harassing mine and 6 other groups. she asked why she was banned they said that she was sending troles there. so did other lands say the same thing saying their covernment. says they can prebann other land groups. so why do thay again have tons of unregistered bots geting the sl hotspot high and then banning anyone who sim hops or goes to their rivery group lands. i need an answer this has gone on long enough. there has to be a rul that they can not ban people that have rivery groups in their group lists. i thought that was a blatent harassment from them. and un ethical. also it gets people not to go to the rivery group lands afraid of geting banned. when we did nothing to them but build a sim. and the owners came in looked around grabbed my land tag from my on my land yes on my land and went systematicaly banning everyone that was on it. and then set a bot there to prebann anyone else. it is good but they keep harassing mine and other lands doing this. and they are public. using the traffic stats to get the ajenda people will go look and then they get punished for having visited other rivery lands. this is a shame they are doing this.

ow this is geting serious. this rivery sim has over 200 unregistered bots going out from there and they send them out to steel lindens un ethical targeting i linden voteboxes. we sat there wondering why we keep geting complaints from region owners about them. the problem still remains. they are set public but they are on top destination chat in sl. and they have systematicaly have a auto group reader they out in the land. and anyome that visits the rivery lands they deem gets traffic they bann them. but two days ago we had a huge unregistered bot farm come one every 15 seconds land on my land go strait to my votebos hit it twice then poof. i imediatly 0ed my traffic voteboxes and reported them one by one. un avaded by second life they are not even looking into it. so i traced it to where it went and it went to 6 other sims doing same thing then endede to my said rivery sim and went off line. i was hit for two days all day. i thought bots were not to go out and get on other peoples land and hit vote boxes. and the ones they targeted and fought back were ip banned by their group readers. i hear plenty of psim owners quiting and realy mad they are pre banning other lands. and be public in the destinations list hotspots. but since the second life people have not responded to this. the region owners banned them and the list of bots we found. from a lot of regions. they even banned their region owners with this group landscripts and banned them as well. so what is there to do there is alot of people geting mad and quiting because they can not get traffic but a bunch of steeling bots.? i had to log everyone coming in and cross check every one. found so far over 200 unregistered avitar bots doing this. and it is not the only sim doing it.

well the problem remains un avaided. this rivery sim, is still prebanning land groups not the individual, that they feel is a threat or a competitive popular sim, to them. the owner uses a script bot to harass other sims he has on his list or tells his staff to ban anyone who visits my land to get a tag to use my stuff. in a way plain harassing my sim. and everyone comes here complaining. or they stop coming to my land because they visited here once using sploders and other lagit bots.. I feel that if a rivery sim Tells me who I see and tries to control them not to go to other sims. they do not like is wrong. and harassment should be a topic linden labs should look into. I still get complaints with the sim hopers that they get banned just because they visited mine from specific and now other sims. making scripts to preban them so as to punish them for going to other sims. people constantly tell me that they got banned because they had my land group in their profile. on said rival sim. mentioned with regret. but I today put money on my sploder and did the proper ligit thing and they had been prebanned by them just for going to get lindens. I hear this daily. and I pay a lot of money to have a sim. but to be harassed and prebanned to sim hopers is wrong in my book. like people to go sim hoping. and I do not care if they weare other tags. for some nubies do not know to change tags and it is not fair. so prebanning land groups for no reson. so why are they allowing prebanning land groups. and staff was told to band them or get fired?

thank you for your kind words.

yep. i like the place it is nice. i just do not understand what i did to them to put my group on the prebaning lists. when i did nothing to them. and they are still banning everyone that is new in my groups. as of yesterday everyone knows not to wear my tags there. but there are plenty of other tags being worn there and they are not banning them just my group. eople are complaining and this is why i asked the forum. what is legal and what is not.

a realy good idea.

thank you my feelings are same. i just feel bad for the new people that visit. the rivery sim is realy mad. they keep trying to keep the trolls out and targeting everyone. i feel sory to them as well. but coming to my land grabing my group names, and my avatar banning everyone while they flee from there is rather funny. i hope that the new people learn that some sims are mean. thank you. for your info. it is helpful. this never happened to me and i try to help.

thanks for input. this definitely needs to be addressed. about prebanning groups, or rivery sims. iwas trying to help others understand why they got prebanned. for visiting my sim. it is like a war to get people to visit.and the prebanning bots not the individual that did nothing gets banned for visiting other sim's. is bad.

I apoligise for naming the sm. I should not mention them but I keep getting complaints about them prebaning my land because I am popular. to punish them for visiting my sim.

k. well I created a new sym. theamed and a few people came from somewhere else. they got my group tag, and things were fine. bu then word got out that I do not restrict huds and I have a car race track, and other fun stuff. in order to use the jetskies and rex they need a tag on my land. then I became popular. people were coming from londen city running away from trolls and complaining. they stuck around. I then put up shops, ect. and was building. the land has became popular. then a troll came and one of the visitors fought back and they got mad, left went to londen city and complained that they could not troll. on my land. everyone that herd it wanted to go see. and I became more popular. then one day the owner of londen city came to my land grabbed my name, and my tag. and all of a sudden I get a notice I was banned from londen city. and everyone on my group that had my group of now 80 people got banned as well as punishment for visiting my land. they were telling me that they made a scripted bot that reads the profiles and banns anyone that has my tags. even if they poped in. they asked me why is their bots targeting them. all of a sudden. then I get a thretning message from the owners that I was trolling them and they were going to bann my group. when I do not go there. and a lot of people complained. in a way they are prebanning with bots and targeting my land group. they keep coming here they keep trying to target my land extensively. also telling his staff if they see my group tags in their profile to bann them. I realy do not care it only gets them coming here and they hang out here and complain about them. then I get notecards of them using bots in info hubs to target nubies to their land when they are not a info hub. I keep getting complaints about the bots there. and wondered if there is something I can do for the nubies or sym hoppers. especialy when they target anyone that comes and gets my tags and pre banns them. they are scripters there that made this bots. and no one is catching it. until now after lots of complaints about them. I just wanted to see if using bots to target group land is illegal.

sorry about spelling. I just woke to get bombarded with im's about the bots that londen city is using. and to try to do something. I do not control other lands and wish not to. but is there some rule about banning bots that are scripted to ban other land popular groups? I don't care much. he is losing people doing that but people are complaining and it keeps people away from my land, and makes people that like to sym hop, mad as well.

i have a problem. I have a popular syym. I rent and developed. and there is a sym that was popular that came to my land because people came to my land to have fun. they did not like it. we found out that they are not a info hub and they were using special scripted bots and transporting them at intervals to the info hubs and getting them to londen city owned by billy, and torrec. we did not complain but then they use after we have parties ect anyone that comes here or has my group in their profile it will bann them. making people mad. I was asked to do something. I do not know how. today after a full 80 people which came from everywhere and we had a rez day party. they went to londen city and the bot immediately banned them from there. I realy don't care if they use them but was asked why are they constantly using bots in info hubs and targeting everyone on my popular sym. to punish them for coming here. where we did nothing to them. they keep getting mader, sending trolls and we all can fight back. we limited restriction to the land so they can use their cars, huds and have fu. they keep targeting my group. because and people are getting realy mad because they are using bots to target info hubs and my group. is this illegal? people do not like getting banned because they went to another sym. I do not know how to resolve this. thank you terry tcservices1