[List of Creators Producing BoM-Compliant Goods]

11 minutes ago, Aethelwine said:

I have tried again about 10 heads this morning. None of them respond to fat sliders and all look weird and emaciated on my body. The heads are fine if you want to look like a slender model, but despite all the variety that is all they seem to cater for.

 

Have you looked at <UTILIZATOR> - Normie Head. Its only 500L and is modify.

 

 

I did not see your photo before I posted, but I think Normie would work well for you. Just a thought.

 

[List of Creators Producing BoM-Compliant Goods]

16 hours ago, Aethelwine said:

Yeah I spoke with Deetalez customer service earlier, to use the new BOM skins I need to buy a mesh head. I suppose it isn't the skin makers fault, they are just working to demands of their big markets. Just seems like a shame people with system heads aren't being catered for any more, especially when mesh heads cost so much and don't allow for the variety of shapes system heads can cover.

 

 

As far as the price goes, keep an eye on Akeruka, they have sales what seams like quite often. Right now their Beta BoM head is 1k, it will go up to 5k when finished. Kind of soon I think, and you will get free updates.

My only mesh head I use was free from AK and after adjusting it some it looks nothing like the ad poster, I even came close to my system head that I liked, but the mesh is better (IMHO). But it is a bit of work, but I really stink at this and I managed.

And my alt has a different AK head that was also free, I just don’t have the funds to go plunking down 5k for a head, but I have two avatars that have free mesh heads, and that is all they use, in fact the only heads they have.

 

[What do I need to know as a consumer?]

8 hours ago, Blush Bravin said:

Alpha clashing (glitching) has nothing to do with how clothes fit and alpha cuts. Alpha glitching is when two textures with alpha channels conflict with each other, where textures will keep flashing or completely disappear. A good example would be if you were to wear a eyebrow that's not on the skin but an applier applied to the eyebrow section of your mesh head and then also want to wear eyeshadow that goes up toward the brow and one cancels out the other because your graphics card doesn't know how to render that properly. With bakes on mesh you can "bake" the eyebrow texture and the eye shadow texture onto the skin so there is no alpha glitching. Alpha glitching has plagued all of us for years. 

 

Thanks, I learned something. But I have never seen that, I don’t use makeup beyond what comes with my head, and not much of that, I’m not very good at this.

 

[What do I need to know as a consumer?]

As a consumer I now have my Body, Head and Viewer all updated and I like what I see.

It hasn’t changed.

I don’t buy skins, I like the skin I’m in, I love my Head and Body, so I am basically not paying any attention to BoM, for me, nothing has changed. And everything was free so that was good.

I have and use Omega, the Materials aspect of it is what matters, Big Time What Matters, I mean, Really Big Time What Matters.

So how do I do Materials with BoM? Everyplace I look I see that BoM does not support Materials, is that true? And if so, This is a step forward? Will BoM support Materials down the road? How long?

I just don’t see it being of any value to me, others love it and that is great, but I don’t see me using it at all.

And people talking about it fixing alpha clashing, if you need alphas, your clothes don’t fit, go shopping!

And as far as complexity goes, I am almost always lower than anyone around me, always, so that part is of no help to me.

Just some thoughts from a Consumer about BoM.

[Differences between the old and new linden home areas]

I have two avatars, one lives in Meadowbrook (over 4 years now) and one in Bellisseria. I personally have more lag in Bellisseria than Meadowbrook. But everyone I guess is different.

The houses in Meadowbrook have more open space in them, for me that is critical and why I like Meadowbrook houses better, but Bellisseria is pretty and laid out much better.

I just live in my sky box in Bellisseria, in Meadowbrook I don’t need a sky box.

[Mesh - Seriously is it even worth the trouble???]

I went to a mesh body for one reason and one reason ONLY, to get rid of alpha cuts. I don’t use them, period! Okay, if I buy something cheap that has no demo, then maybe, but most of that just gets deleted if it does not fit.

You can only use clothing that is made for the body you are using.

A mesh body is better but way more difficult to purchase clothing for, absolutely most of the clothing on the market will not fit your body, no matter what body you have. I consider the market broken because of this making most of the clothing usable.

I have resorted to using two different mesh bodies that are kind of close to each other, that gives me a larger assortment of clothing to pick from.

But I think mesh is better, its just way, way more expensive and way, way less selection of what fits

[List of Creators Producing BoM-Compliant Goods]

I have the Maia [AK]-AKERUKA head and got a free update to BoM with redelivery.  Looks like they are releasing them one head at a time as they are updated, and a number of them have already been done.

[Normie and Anime Height]

I am 5.01 feet tall according to the viewer, in my 12 years I have never been banned from anyplace because of my height.

But my avatar looks nothing like a child.

[What do I need to know as a consumer?]

If I use BoM and put on bra and panties, bake them in place, when I TP anyplace I will never again rez completely naked. What is baked on is like my skin, if my skin shows, my baked on lingerie shows, so never completely naked on TP again.

I like BoM a little better all the time, if that is how it works.

[List of Creators Producing BoM-Compliant Goods]

For viewers:

From Kokua 6.3.0 Release Notes
"The primary driver behind this release is LL’s 6.3.0 release which introduces Bakes On Mesh."

[BakesOnMesh as a creator what do we need to do?]

Some do but its because I did not see it and there was no demo, so low linden cost mostly. And I have found you can turn off the alpha in the body HUD. But when you relog its back on, so I just don’t use them very often. But clothing I use on a daily basis has no alpha included or needed.

[BakesOnMesh as a creator what do we need to do?]

It took me a long time to go from the Classic Avatar to a mesh avatar, but the one thing that pushed me over the edge is getting rid of ALPHA CUTS.

To me, alpha cuts are for the Classic Avatar and if you need them for a mesh body, your doing something wrong.  I have loads of clothing that fits.

If I see clothing with an alpha I will look long and hard for something else rather than add an alpha to my body, that is what I spent loads of Linden$ to get rid of.

That is how “I” look at alphas and mesh bodies.

[Belli impacts: Private Estates and Mainland]

I think Bellisseria will have a negative impact on the privet rental business.  I have rented before and lost my house because one reason or another having nothing to do with me.  Being on Linden land and in a Linden house I feel safe that that will not happen.

Oh wait, I have a house in Meadowbrook and the Linden’s are saying they are going away at some point after Bellisseria and the new homes are all in place.  So not much different from renting in the privet sector, house goes away having nothing to do with me.  The safety aspect of having a Linden home over the privet sector is gone, or will be.

[Low cost mesh body (female)]

I have the Tonic Fine and it can use slink shoes.  I have a lot of shoes and have never seen any that don't fit.

[What will become of the old Premium homes?]

What will become of the old Premium homes?

I know they say the old homes are going to disappear but I hope it will be a long long time. I have been in my older Linden Home for years and dearly love it.

I looked at the new homes and don’t like them, well I can’t really say I don’t like them, its more like I hate them. The tiny little rooms that “For Me” are completely useless, I have no interest at all in decorating, I just can’t do it.

I made an alt Premium for a month and got a new home rather easily, very lucky I guess. I put up a sky box and wow do the people in Bellisseria love their sky boxes, they were everywhere!

Hopefully the Lab will make future homes with more room in them, or I guess I could just leave it empty and live in a sky box. That is what my alt did for the three or four days she had her house in Bellisseria, then she abandoned it and went back to Basic.

[Changes to the state of Tennessee's online gambling law]

Ayela said:

Remember, just because something isn't illegal, doesn't mean that a business is legally obligated to provide you with that service.

 

 

That’s an understatement. But still does not answer my question, why keep me out of the sim. And no I do not expect an answer, I just find it nonsensical.

[Changes to the state of Tennessee's online gambling law]

I live in Florida and what I don’t understand is why I can’t even go in the sim.

I understand I can’t gamble but that can easily be taken care of, the same as it keeps me out of the sim. I like the live entertainment in SL and when there is a show in a gambling sim, I can’t go see the show, has happened.

Why keep me out of the entire sim and not just keep me off the gambling equipment? But I do admit I know nothing about it because I don’t gamble any how.

I’ll be back in a minute, I need to go get my lottery ticket.

And that is another thing, gambling is rampant in Florida, but I can’t gamble in Second Life????? (LMFAO)

[Windows 10 1903 incompatible with Second life?]

Any chance the Alchemy Viewer will get updated now?

[Wearing Glasses in second life]

I have had glasses for years, don’t even know when I started. Got these not long ago, just updating my look a little.

[Has the introduction of Mesh stiffled creativity in SL?]

On 7/6/2019 at 2:27 AM, NiranV Dean said:

Much like i am doing now? Aha. Are you implying my Viewer is only used because it offers features that are still in development, aka "Bleeding Edge"?

That "Bleeding Edge" idea died with Nirans Viewer.

What i'm doing now is fundamentally different to what i was doing back then with Nirans Viewer which had completely different goals compared to Black Dragon now. Nirans Viewer was much more focused on continueing the spirit of Kirstens Viewer and sprinkling in some own modifications while Black Dragon is a whole different approach of the same spirit with much more focus on "self-feature-development". Aside from the extremely far and few scattered features from other Viewers, namely RLVa, Exodus Post Processing and Tofu's shader improvements almost everything deviating from the LL default has been done by me, thats the solar opposite of what Nirans Viewer was a collection of features from all Viewers (except Firestorm). Nirans Viewer was a learning experience, it was important for the development of my own coding skills which at the time i started continueing Kirstens were practically 0, i had never seen code back then, whereas now im throwing the "first ever new inworld content creation tool around since a long time in the history of SL" (namely the Poser, btw that's basically what Oz said), that is an extreme jump.

Maybe you (or more like Kitty in this context) should feel a bit more honored that i took your "do-it-yourself" approach with things and stopped taking stuff from everywhere.

I really liked Kirsten's viewer and when Nirans Viewer came along it was a pleasure to use. But Black Dragon leaves me cold. Its not that I don’t like it or think its bad, I just don’t have the skills to use it, at least that is the best I can come up with thinking about why I don’t like it. I have installed it two or three times only to just give up on it.

But seeing this post I now know why Nirans Viewer felt so good to use, it was a beautiful piece of work.

My viewer of choice now is Alchemy and I’ve been using it for well over a year now. I keep Kokua installed and updated along with the Second Life viewer but I use Alchemy 90% of the time now, but the poor thing hasn’t been updated for about two years now. I will hate to see it go away, its comfortable.

[OH LOOK! 👀​​​​​​​]

Have the trailers set so every time you change styles instead of just disappearing it burns down before the new trailer style appears, or have that so it happens randomly when changed.

[So, here’s an idea.]

Some people, like me, like love the old Linden Homes. But they are packed so tightly its ugly, the sim I am on has almost 50 homes in it. (Meadowbrook area)

So, as the old homes become empty, remove them, when enough are gone, make the rest 1024 foot print giving them more prims and a yard.

Meadowbrook has a line of empty sims on its north side, start the 1024 lots there and make it so only Meadowbrook residents can move there, from an old Meadowbrook house, as they move, delete the old 512 houses. And like Bellisseria make it so you can pick your home style from the homes that are already in use in Meadowbrook. If you leave a buffer between the lots like has been done in Bellisseria, it would look a lot nicer and attract a lot more people.

Make half a dozen sims that can be randomly put down, no fancy paved roads, LOL, make dirt roads, its old.

 

Just a fun thought. IMHO

 

[Old housing community vs New one]

What would you call a normal height of an avatar, my avi is 5’ 1” and I am smaller than most almost every place I go.  LOL, I see a lot of bellybuttons.

[Old housing community vs New one]

1 hour ago, Matty Luminos said:

The houses are actually less cramped than they look, because the ceilings are so high, it gives the impression that the floor is smaller. But you can get a surprisingly large amount in them.  And the houseboats are even bigger.

But yes, skyboxes are allowed, at 2,000m or higher.

 

I just measured them, my 512 house the ceilings are 5m, my house in Bellisseria is much less than that, they are lower than a lot of builds in SL.  The Bellisseria houses are just tiny, lower ceilings and smaller foot print, and there is no way around that, they are just small.

[Old housing community vs New one]

Over the years I could take photos of the region I am in and the ones around me and shown it to be busy, other time I could show it almost empty, it changes.

But I agree, not a community, but its not built with that in mind from the way it looks to me.

I think Linden Lab has learned from their first Homes and have made improvements.  Looking at them there is no comparison at all between the old and the new, they are completely different, the land the houses, everything.  And it looks like the improvements are paying off for them, but Bellisseria is very young, we will see how it goes, but I have high hopes for it.  But with that much land to place a house on I am hoping they provide something with more floor space and no tiny rooms, even like the old Linden homes, make a subdivision for different style homes.  Without looking I believe the old homes are on 3 or 4 different continents, we may see that with the new homes also in time.
And just a side note, when I first got my Linden Home, I would get the message that no houses are available like what I was looking for, very much like Bellisseria is now, just saying.