Deeding private region to group

[Jonton Lorefield]

There have been a number of posts on these forums about the pros and cons of deeding (versus just “setting”) mainland parcels to a group. Not too much has been posted (as far as I can tell) on the same topic as it applies to private regions.

We recently purchased a private region from Linden Lab. I have been searching the knowledge base on the topic of deeding such land to a group, and have found some relevant information under the heading “Estates and Private Regions” on the page titled “Group-owned land” here:

http://community.secondlife.com/t5/English-Knowledge-Base/Group-owned-land/ta-p/700079

That section indicates that deeding a private region to a group differs in some ways from the mainland activity:

* Only the private region owner pays LL for the land; mainland rules pertaining to group member land use fees, tier, etc., do not apply.
* For the same reason, you should not check the “Owner Makes Contribution With Deed” checkbox when deeding a private region to a group.

Not as clear, though, are the advantages of deeding a private region to a group. On the mainland, deeding allows the group the ability to pick up a certain percentage of additional bonus land without bumping up tier. That advantage would not apply to private regions where tier does not come into play at all.

So what are the advantages (or disadvantages) of deeding a private region to a group? If anyone has dealt with this issue, please post.

I am thinking that certain group role abilities will only activate if the land is deeded rather than set. One might be the ability of group members to always fly, even if the region is set no-fly. We could not seem to activate that ability on our group-set private region.

Additional note: Judging from a line in the KB text noted above, apparently Openspace Regions cannot be deeded to a group.

 

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[Ceera Murakami]

The main reason for deeding land to a group, in a private region, is that there are certain group role functions that only work for the "parcel owner". For example, to set the multimedia stream for the parcel, only the parcel owner can do that. But if the parcel is deeded to a group, then a scripted prim that is also deeded to the group can allow anyone to set the multimedia stream, and group members with the appropriate role permissions can change the stream. About 1/3 of the group roles only work properly if the parcel is deeded to the group. The other group roles work fine if the parcel is only "set" to the group.

In private regions, as you noted, there is no "group owned land bonus" for tier, and you don't do "contributions" to tier. You simply have a rental box or a PayPal subscription or some other way that one or more people in the group pays the sim owner directly, and then the sim owner in turn pays Linden Lab the tier on the sim.

Private sim owners always have the ability to repossess a parcel. So unlike Mainland, where deeding a parcel to a group takes that land out of the original owner's control completely, on a private sim the sim owner can allow deeded land, and better land control rights, while retaining ultimate ownership of the land.

People who rent out Mainland parcels can't allow deeding to the parcel resident's own group, because if they do, they lose the land. On the mainland, the landlord has to create the land management group, and retains ownership and control of that group, deeds the land to the rental group, and has to invite tenants into that group in limited roles. Then they can share most of the benefits of a group deeded parcel.

[Jonton Lorefield]

Thank you for the informative post. That's just what I needed to know. We have now deeded the private region to our group, and now at least one of our group role functions is  working as expected: We had set one group role to "always fly," but that did not activate until the land was deeded.

Thanks again.

[Ciaran Laval]

Do not, under any circumstances, tick the owner makes contrbution box when deeding private land to a group, I don't even know why that box appears on private land.

[dragoness Rembrandt]

great response to the question...:matte-motes-tongue:

[IMGypsy]

Does this also apply to a parcel owner in my sim wants to deed his parcel to his group of 2 people?

[dragoness Rembrandt]

:smileyhappy:

Thank you very much for all the advice you all rock!

Thank goodness for people like you... :smileywink: