Arielle Popstar
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56 minutes ago, JacksonBollock said:
I've wondered about this as well,
I get the feeling that a TPV which incorporated a Discord interface and marketed itself as the "Privacy" viewer would be pretty popular.
Is there anything like that already?Not that I know of though I heard a developer talking about that it would be nice. Not sure if it can be done though I wouldn't know why not.
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3 minutes ago, Zalificent Corvinus said:
Fixed that for you.
Doubt it but even so, the rule effects 30%+ of edge cases where the avatar could be seen as 17 or less.
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2 minutes ago, Zalificent Corvinus said:
Not-Children in SL are NOT "victims" of "predators".
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Adults PETENDING to be minors should be subject to the same rules as AACTUAL Minors.
If they aren't children (and they're not) then they should have the same rights as anyone else.
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12 minutes ago, BilliJo Aldrin said:
You mean some people dont know that LL has a record of every thing you type?
LOL @ some people
Guess I never thought of it and I do wonder if Europeans can't have those records expunged as it would be personal. Only leaves Americans and Canadians vulnerable to investigations.
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1 minute ago, Zalificent Corvinus said:
More like:
Tiny Toxic Terror Tots: How about we dodge the ToS by not-a-solution-A
Sane People: Nope that's a violation, Comply, Leave or get Banhammered.
Tiny Toxic Terror Tots: How about we dodge the ToS by not-a-solution-B
Sane People: Nope that's a violation, Comply, Leave or get Banhammered.
Tiny Toxic Terror Tots: How about we dodge the ToS by not-a-solution-C
Sane People: Nope that's a violation, Comply, Leave or get Banhammered.
Your proposals don't sound sane to me. It is basically saying Let's get rid of 50% of the grid so supposedly Sane Residents will not be tempted to click bait.
Since you say the new rules are to comply with the Mobile viewers anyway which you hate just as much, why not promote the idea that the Mac part of the Mobile viewers is not a good idea for the grid because of how much it will effect the well being of the Tiny Tots!
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5 minutes ago, Ceka Cianci said:
I don't have a problem with the RP at all or people coming to SL to live whatever they want to live.. It's just not for me and the SL that I wish to live as well..
If it's a compliment, I will say thank you very much, because I do think it's rude not saying thank you to someone that does pay a compliment.. It's only common courtesy to thank them, I believe..
That or if they are asking a question or for some sort of information or something a long those lines..
But if I see something like a /me line like, wonders if the nice lady would like to talk.
Ya, I'm not going to answer. It's feels too much like being part of a play for me or some acting role and I'm just not good at acting and it maker me uncomfy.. hehehe
I'm ok with acting but I do have to be in the right head space for it. If I am shopping but also thinking of what I am going to make for dinner, its a bit of a bother to switch gears and do their roleplay. A quick thank you for a compliment is fine but if more involved then that it becomes more challenging.
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9 minutes ago, Kathlen Onyx said:
Not if you do all your important chatting on Discord. I won't define "important".
Not everybody is on Discord and though I have it, I don't care for it and find it inconvenient. I would wish they included it in the viewer like FS used to have IRC a few years ago. It didn't go through the SL servers if I remember so wouldn't be recorded by them afaik.
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5 minutes ago, Ceka Cianci said:
I use the same practice as I use with hardlegs looking for a quickie.. lol
Yes that's the main area I been working on the no answering. It would be such a time saver instead of having to spend 10 minutes or more telling them I am just not interested.
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1 minute ago, JacksonBollock said:
Well there's that, but also if LL were ever to fully reveal the extent of these "internal tools", and the granularity of data points available, then they wouldn't be able to continue to use "ignorance as a defence" when responding to any other types of incident or complaint.
Never mind the potential uproar should residents become aware of how everything they say and do even in IM is recorded. Anything you say or do may be used against you in a Court of Lindens
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1 minute ago, Ceka Cianci said:
The main thing for me is when getting a random IM.. Like i said, if I went into their environment it's one thing.. but just walking down main street in public.. that's another..
But ya, I don't see to many child avatars really..Let alone, most don't talk to me like they are in character as well as other kinds of themed avatars.. But sometimes it does and most of those times, I don't answer back..
I just can't quit bring myself to not answering back yet though I'm trying to work on it. Guessing I just been trained too well to answer when spoken to regardless of who it is.
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The thread has been devolving into a case of
Solution A: Yeah but...
Solution B: Yeah but...
Solution C : Yeah but...
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1 hour ago, BilliJo Aldrin said:
And the response would be, if you are so worried, make yourself taller.
umm no thanks, I'll take my chances 😂
Stop hanging out with wannabe basketball players. Pretty easy to do unless you have a secret fetish for them. 😄
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2 minutes ago, Ceka Cianci said:
Honestly, the onyl thing that ever really bothered me, was if they were chatting to me and being immerssed at the same time.. kind of like I'm part of the RP or something, which I'm not..
But that's not just with child avatars.. That's pretty much anyone that tried to pull me into their RP from the start..
It's one thing if I'm exploring and venture into a sim that is made for those kinds of RP's.. But if you see me shopping at an event or a store.. That kind of bugs me and most times, I won't answer back.
Other than that, I'm always looking at other avatars just to see how creative they got with them.
I so rarely see what I define as a child avatar (pre-pubescent) that I barely even think about them except now that anything presenting as under 18 is being lumped together in that category. The few times I have run into them, I too was being immersed into their roleplay but that is not really any different then those who RP something else like a furry or a plant of even Gor style RP. To me the challenge is just rolling along with whatever someone else's RP is though if it is something I'm not into, it won't be for long and I'll make my excuses and move on.
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1 hour ago, Dorientje Woller said:
No ... not censorship, but protecting our minors against bad influences.
No...not bad influences but protecting that class of avatars who feel squeamish at the sight of a child avatar.
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The takeaway I had out of it was that
The
BeatingsBannings will continue untilMorale Improves!
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Reading the video log was faster then having had to sit through it all anyway so in retrospect it didn't bother me not getting in to hear the no-news.
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2 minutes ago, Scylla Rhiadra said:
Also someone asking that "extreme violence" be now permitted on Moderate regions so that kids can participate in combat RP. Which I'd sure as hell fight. And also, kids in gory, violent combat RP? WTF?
They are adults after all and it is only potential sex scenes that threaten SL's existence, not the virtual killing of each other
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2 minutes ago, Crim Mip said:
THen don't do something that's near the line that could get AR'd. LL isn't going to give exact answers and you know it. If your enjoyment of SL depends on having bits being able to show, I'd say you have other issues that probably should be addressed.
Probably most of us who been here 15 years or more probably have issues needing to be addressed but don't tell anyone.
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3 minutes ago, Coffee Pancake said:
None of the opinionated from here bothered to show up, maybe they don't actually care.
Meh, you know i tried but it was full. Did you save a log of the chat?
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1 minute ago, Ayashe Ninetails said:
Pantera's video has been posted to YouTube already, if you want to take a look at it. The meeting wasn't in voice, though, soooooo...gotta read the screen.
I did ask Coffee to get log the chat so hoping she has and posts it
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49 minutes ago, Love Zhaoying said:
I think and hope, that while WE may have used "confused" (for "not sure"), Gov'nance will take other things into account and as often as not, "err on the side of not a child".
I'm hoping for the same but would wish Governance would tell us what other things they would take into consideration. Hopefully that will have been expanded on during the meeting but since it was full, we'll have to wait for someone to post the chatlog of it.
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21 minutes ago, Rolig Loon said:
That's precisely why I am encouraged. Governance staff are not AI machines. They are people like you and me and the people who made those judgments in Blush Bravin's thread. Most of us seem to be able to decide whether most of the examples are underage or adult women. We're pretty good at it, without having hard criteria spelled out. I don't expect to convince you or anyone else to trust Governance -- we each carry too much personal experience to make that possible -- but I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. We're all trying to do our best here.
I just relooked at that thread and the amount of Confused responses for those true edge cases and wonder if you might not have too much confidence in out respective abilities to determine avatar ages. If those photo's for the most part are a reflection of the sort of looks we go about with inworld, there is going to be a sizable contingent of potential AR's that will be needing further investigation to determine the ages that people were shooting for.
I'm hoping Governance will be swamped enough that they will need to trash or at least lower the required age to be more reflective of the age of consent (16) as that might be more realistic then the present 18.
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2 minutes ago, Rolig Loon said:
That's quite true, but it's quibbling and misses the point that this thread and the one on Avatars is focused on. As I said a short while ago, "The few who posted as children are no real challenge, but as we saw in the previous thread, there's a lot of uncertainty in people's minds when avs might be in the 13 - 20 range, almost always if they are women." Toddlers and pre-teens are not a problem. However, it's impossible to draw a hard line, using objective criteria, that can tell you whether the avatar you are looking at is a 14-18 year old mature-looking girl or a 19-22 year old young-looking woman. We and Governance are left making judgments using gut feelings, experience, biases, and a flock of situational variables.
The dilemma is that some people don't trust Governance to make reasonable judgements in the face of that uncertainty, so they are hoping for a few hard lines. ("She's too short!" "She has big boobs!" "She has a ponytail!" ) That's just not going to work.
And yet .... the reassuring result of Blush Bravin's thread so far is that most of us can make reasonable judgments without hard line criteria. There are not many votes on any photo that amount to, "I'd AR this person and let Governance decide". I find that encouraging and I have enough trust in Governance, personally, that I am confident their judgement is at least as good as ours. We're not going to have anywhere near as many young women avatars caught by the policy as many people fear.
My concern is that Governance has a number of people working in it that would presumably have a similar range of educated guesses as the pictures in the thread. I find that potentially concerning when they do not seem to have policies in place internally or for the residents of what sort of characteristics they look at to make a determination of age. Some in this thread have given us their reasonings for why they chose the age they did on various photo's and I for one am thankful for that because it helps me to learn more about what does and doesn't age an avatar.
That is more then Governance has done for us so far. Hopefully they will enlighten us more in the meeting later but not sure whether I should hold my breath.
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1 hour ago, Kathlen Onyx said:
No, someone being non-judgmental would simply ignore it.
Maybe they want to be hovering 2 feet in the air.
Reminds me of the woman that IM'd me once to tell me that there were updated heads on the Marketplace....you know, in case I didn't know.
A narcissist would ignore it.
Did you know there were updated heads or just one of those who can't admit there might be something she doesn't know?
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The new ToS and something I don't think was taken into consideration by LL.
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Do you comply with the ToS in every way? You really sound like you would prefer to have SL all to yourself and will find justifications why everyone else should leave or be banned. I'm sure the grrr you have on for Tiny Tots is only the tip of the iceberg.