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48 minutes ago, Luna Bliss said:
your kitty whiskers too?
The funny thing is, you have to be careful with the application of Latisse and Lumigan ( the eyelash treatment and the glaucoma med that is the same medication) because they can increase hair growth in other places as well. IIRC cheeks were reported, this is why you have to use the special applicator.
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22 hours ago, Sasy Scarborough said:
https://nwn.blogs.com/ New World Notes (however he is starting to cover SL like he does not enjoy it now, there is a definite shift in how he covers things)
Starting? He started covering SL like he didn't enjoy it back in 2010! Or was it 2009? Anyway, years! Some of us who comment regularly on NWN have commented on how he doesn't use SL "like the rest of us" anymore.
Also there's some Fashionista named Sasy who has a blog, which unlike some other oldbie fashionistas...is still active.
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1 hour ago, Scylla Rhiadra said:
I'm always amazed -- and used to be even more so in the "old days" -- how little impact "SLebrity" actually has in-world. I doubt a tenth of the people I knew in-world in 2009 would have recognized names like Torley, Prok, or Stroker. They might have watched the videos, or rented land in Ravenglass, or bought a SexGen bed, but the identity of the people themselves would have drawn blanks.
That may be even more true today. I don't think most residents have anything more than the most passing acquaintance with the SL blogosphere, the various forums, and so forth.
I wonder what sets those residents apart from us, that's the question. Most of us here are REALLY engaged. Blogs, flickr, active in in-world groups, the forums here, SLU/VVO, machinima. We're what Gwyneth Llewelyn called "The 100000":
https://gwynethllewelyn.net/2008/10/13/the-hard-facts-about-the-second-life-economy/
Yeah it's old, and multiple pages, and written pre-mesh and pre-marketplace, but it has a good description of the various elements of the SL economy and userbase, especially this page:
https://gwynethllewelyn.net/2008/10/13/the-hard-facts-about-the-second-life-economy/6/
Though I would say it's closer to "The 200000" now, I would say MORE people are engaged in the economy and shopping like madwomen than before, in part due to mesh.
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1 hour ago, Selene Gregoire said:
When it comes down to it, SL is, in spite of LL, the "top rated" virtual world in existence and that is what most people are going to choose even if they are not very happy with company performance.
Yes, I would agree on that. SL's "success", such as it is, is mostly in spite of LL. The users LL has...are not the users LL wanted.
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3 minutes ago, Selene Gregoire said:
You admit he is an acquired taste, something which is not for everyone, yet, I'm a bad person for not being able to watch something that is an acquired taste. Alcoholic beverages are acquired tastes so, by your reasoning, I'm a bad person because I don't particularly care for the taste of most alcoholic beverages. Hmmm. That means, I'm a bad person for not liking whatever everyone else likes. Then, so be it.
I'm sorry, I meant for you to take the "yes" tongue in cheek like ChinRey's Yes, not literally. I should have added a smiley, my fault.
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On 6/10/2019 at 1:32 PM, Beth Macbain said:
My objection to it is that women deserve better porn (and there is MUCH better out there) and that whatever his name was isn't a dominant. He's a psychopathic abuser and it was presented as being erotic and thousands upon thousands of women and teenage girls read it (or watched it) and came away thinking it was sooooooooooooo dreamy and are going to get destroyed by women-hating miscreants in the name of 50 Shades of Abusive Behavior.
Not a big fan of Twilight I see. 😉
For those who don't know, 50 shades was originally a Twilight Fanfic. I am NOT joking, 50 shades is Twilight fanfic with the names filed off and the sparkly vampire stuff taken out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifty_Shades_of_Grey#Background_and_publication
On 6/11/2019 at 1:45 AM, Amina Sopwith said:ETA: Norman's philosophy (if you can call it that) as expounded in the Gor books
It is my duty to shop, such is the way of things in Bore. And since it is my duty to shop, my Mistress should supply myself, her Kajira, with an allowance...oh say 100000L$ a month for a start. Those fatpacks won't buy themselves. By shopping I'm being true to my Borean nature. On Earth, sometimes Fashionistas don't shop, by doing so they deny their true shoppity shop nature. But here on Bore, a fashionista knows her duty, to shop and shop some more. And she does it well, because it pleases her Mistress, and her Mistress wants a pretty Fashionista, but who cares about Mistress, right. Shopping is the most important thing, such is the way of things in Bore.
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On 5/26/2019 at 11:41 AM, Lewis Luminos said:
Indra was to see what it was like to be a woman in SL. Verdict; not a fan.
Sounds like there's an interesting story behind that statement.
As for me, One alt, land group/premium/utility. Her name is CeciliaCreeggan Resident, and is acknowledged as my alt in her profile. She's not even meshed out...currently.
On 5/26/2019 at 11:57 AM, Ellen Cordeaux said:I have one alt, she's normally a cat but I have other animal avatar I use too; a couple of Tinies, a crow, a foal, a butterfly...etc.
Interesting. (takes notes)
On 6/7/2019 at 2:08 AM, RaeLeeH said:Then there's another female that I use when I'm feeling promiscuous. Physically she's the exact opposite of Rae, and basically does all the things I wouldn't want publicly known. Yep, she's a complete hussy. Or is, on the rare occasion the mood takes me.
So a flagrant hussy like basically every other female avatar in SL...HA! I just do hussy things as myself. I was in an SL porn machinima once, back in 07 or 08...really, I was. Just did it out of a sense of just having a different experience.
4 hours ago, Beth Macbain said:I do have one I use sometimes for adjusting poses on naughty furniture. His name is "theotherbethmacbain" so there can be no confusion.
Sounds like my alt
52 minutes ago, Beth Macbain said:I am genuinely curious about why you stay in SL, or associated with SL, when it seems you dislike LL so much.
I have met a few people who seem to dislike SL, a few of those saying they ought to leave. They sometimes do....maybe for 6 months or a year....but they tend to come back. Because once you've been in it for years...it gets in your blood. It's like Hotel California. You can log out any time you want, but you can never truly leave.
On a prim linden highway, no wind in my hair.
hitting the pgup key, rising up through the air
up ahead in the distance, I saw a shimmering light
the Lag grew heavy and my RAM grew slim
I was going to logout for the night.........
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2 hours ago, Beth Macbain said:
*I* know who they all are, but thank you for the tutorial.
My apologies, I didn't mean to imply you didn't know, just following on from your comment about the folks in your community not knowing.
QuoteThe SL I inhabit is full of oldbies, perverts, porn fans, and trollopistas. We know Stroker, Sylva (RIP), and Jennnnna.
Most of the folks I call "fashionistas" are also a little bit "Trollopista" now and then. After all, one of the early fashion bloggers had the last name "Trollop". I know Stroker, as most oldbies do, but I don't know the other two.
QuoteYou're forgetting, though, about the furniture and land.
I don't know if there is any way of knowing, really, but my guess is that things with the dreaded scarlet letter attached to them account for more than 10% of the SL economy if you take land into account as well.Including land and furniture? Up it to 20% easy. As you said, Adult furniture is PRICEY..and well...even some of us PG people have a adult bed or two. I've got the Dutchie Lesbian Gustavian, and I know I've got the full old SexGen setup somewhere in inventory. Yes...I've got a L$4500 sex bed that doesn't get used as a sex bed, I jokingly call it my Lesbian "Photoprop" bed. I think I've got an ExCite something-or-other in inventory as well.
1 hour ago, Selene Gregoire said:Does it make me a bad person if I've never watched any of Torley's vids?
Yes. 😛 Torley's videos are why I say "Friendly Greetings" whenever I see a Linden. Admittedly, he is an acquired taste.
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On 6/12/2019 at 7:20 AM, Gopi Passiflora said:
Maybe I'm being Captain Obvious here, but I think it's safe to conclude that a recurring theme of Second Life is vanity. We Residents are obsessed with our looks and making ourselves even more beautiful. We admire and envy others' looks as well.
SL has had a large amount of Pixel Vanity and Barbie Dream House XTREEM even before I joined in 2006. The tagline of one early SL fashion blog, Linden Lifestyles, was: "Our Wardrobe is Better than Barbie's" And trust me, I have a lot of Pixel Vanity, after all CC Rule #1 is: Is the CC Pretty? If not, the CC needs to do more shopping.
Also, CC Rule #1: CC must look pretty, If CC does not look pretty, someone must pay. Either the Lindens, or myself because I need to do more shopping.
And CC Rule #1: CC is all about the pretty, more pretty is better than less, if something make CC less pretty it is a bad thing that must be destroyed...if something make CC more pretty it is a good thing.
They're all Rule #1, so I don' t have to make the effort to count to #2. I have more, they're pretty much all justification for more shopping.
15 hours ago, Blaise Glendevon said:Is this the equivalent of that one guy who shows up in makeup communities on Reddit to declare that women who prefer a natural look are much better and morally superior to women who are tricking men with cosmetics?
Oh, they do it on Reddit now? They used to do it back in alt.fashion on USENET in the late 90's/early oughts.
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On 6/11/2019 at 1:57 AM, Jo Yardley said:Listen to Drax and I discussing the recent tier & fee changes in SL;
A Transcript or timeline would be nice for podcasts, Frau Yardley.
20 hours ago, Beth Macbain said:(This is rambling and I jumped all over the place with it!)
I agree with you as well. I have been in SL for many, many years, though not as long as the oldest oldies but well over a decade and you're correct that most people have no idea who Drax or Jo or Berry are, especially within the SL that I tend to inhabit.
In the SL I inhabit, people know about Drax, Frau Yardley and Berry. Of course the SL I inhabit is full of oldbies, steampunks, vintage fans, and fashionistas. When I first heard of Drax he was working with Pooky Amsterdam (former SL machinima producer, accent like Lovey Howell of Gilligans Island), this was what...2012? Frau Yardley I know from NWN/SLU/VVO and most of us old-timey region visitors know about Berlin. I don't visit Berlin because the 1920's is my LEAST favorite decade for fashion. I've virtually rapped Jo's knuckles when she's gone a little too far on her comments about us "Barbies". Berry is Berry, if you're a fashionista in the big groups and who follows the blogs/flickr, you know who Berry is.
QuoteI've spent more on a single color set of lingerie than I have on some t-shirt fatpacks. I have mesh nips. Do PG people bother with those, as well as other bits and add-ons? And, um... systems that do... things? Spankers? Hair-pullers? Collars?
No idea if there is a way to see what those numbers are, but I've long assumed that the adult side of SL was holding up the Linden economy with very little thanks for it. Purely anecdotal, of course.I've spent a lot on lingerie, which I rarely use. I don't use mesh nips, most of us PG people don't bother with them or other "private bits" addons, let alone spankers, collars and so forth. As for what portion of the economy the sexy side is? I think the general fashion economy is holding SL up with the adult stuff being part of that. Maybe 10 percent, enough that it would be missed.
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14 hours ago, Innula Zenovka said:
Take a look at pennyfarthing logo on the rental meters in Caledon some time, realize that some Caledonians say "Be Seeing You."
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On 6/9/2019 at 5:08 PM, Beth Macbain said:
When I hit my 500 posts, can this be my little title-thingie?
Yes! I'll probably use something like "Redheaded" or "Full of Pixel Vanity"
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15 minutes ago, kali Wylder said:
I had a friend who insisted on pronouncing certain words and phrases the wrong way on purpose,
such as:
oon-a-cue
horsey doovers
purse a phone
Ses tea la vee
she also liked to creep up beside people at parties and whisper "mingle mingle mingle"
She sounds like fun. I have, at times intentionally played up the stereotype of a ditzy SL fashionista who only understands shoes. Or sometimes I play up the stereotype of a midwestern small-town "rube". But only after people say I'm smart or something when I discuss tech or solve a problem, which is mostly with people who know I'm not a "bimbo". Though truly, The CC only un-der-stands shoes.
seh est la vye
purse-a-phony
silly voose plait
And to be sure, if I actually visited a francophone country I would try to pronounce things properly.
Lines I hate the most:
"Hey" meaning those that just say "Hey" as an introduction.
And thusly most of the clumsy come-ons people have reported.
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6 hours ago, Gabriele Graves said:
I still have the Aimee Weber doll that she gave me:
WANT! I only have her car!
6 hours ago, Benjamin Opel said:I know Cristiano Midnight, but not sure on the others?
Oldbie FIC
Catherine Omega was an early builder/scripter, co-founded the LSL Wiki, partner of Aimee Weber
Damien Fate is FATEwear, co-owner of Neve/Coldlogic
Siggy Romulus was a well loved builder, RL partner of Nephilaine Protagonist. He passed away last year.
Cristiano Midnight founded the SLU (SLUniverse/VirtualVerse One) forums where the oldbies hang out.
Fallingwater Cellardoor was a content maker of shoes, jewelry and flowers. Her store was "Shiny Things"
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5 hours ago, Benjamin Opel said:
If you notice the second photo.. “Anshe Chung” is online and browsing the forums. Another, well known A-listee! lol
Also Catherine Omega, Damien Fate, Siggy Romulus, Cristiano Midnight and Fallingwater Cellardoor
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On 6/5/2019 at 3:57 PM, Seba Serpente said:
Saw this at Bellisseria Squishy Pickle. Not sure if this is good or bad, I can't tell with the current definitions. It is an eyesore in my opinion , but sadly that is not in question.
Don't you know about the LCC (Leeward Cruising Club)? They're a Resident group, boating centric. In Bellisseria, friendly individuals who are part of that group turn on rez with a few minutes auto-return to set up rez zones. They use yellow for long distance visibility and the fact that they use sky signs that you can see on the map. Those little yellow [LCC] rectangles are them. They're active throughout SL.
The parcels owned by their friends in Bellisseria don't have commercial activity, don't have tip jars and don't give out landmarks.
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On 6/6/2019 at 2:46 AM, Benjamin Opel said:
Who's old skool enough to remember SL's homepage/forums looking like this? 😛
I'm not, but that's Aimee Weber on the far right, even us 2006 vintage noobs can recognize her.
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On 5/30/2019 at 9:41 AM, Kitten Kaos said:
So, as I so often feel about LL, they have good ideas and are headed in the right direction, but I feel like they misread the motivations of residents pretty often. Bellisseria is not a jumping off point, it's a long sought destination. I've talked to quite a few Bellisserians about this and a theme has emerged: oldbees (like me) after years are rediscovering what is good about SL, prompted by a newfound sense of community. The new continent, with it's banning of banlines & beautiful, public congregation spaces is encouraging us to get to know each other & open our homes & hearts and that's what we wanted from SL all along.
Oh there's community in OTHER parts of SL...just that THIS kind of community tended to have a large buy-in. You've got cute mid-century bungalows and boathouses. What places does that sound like? Bay City and the Blake. And what do those places have in common? Huge buy in even for a 1024. We're talking 100000L$ So you've got these new houses just begging to be filled with gacha'd tchotchkes by domestic girly girls (and their partners). There are a LOT of couples in Bellisseria. And you've got the boathouses, just waiting for a Bandit460/50/55/60 to be put out front.
About the only thing Bellisseria doesn't have is the more in depth infrastructure of Bay City, the stores, the retro clubs, the airport complex, the mid-century small city through rose colored glasses stuff. I might have been in Bay City and hanging out with Marianne and vintage friends...if not for the buy in. I might have had a boathouse like my current one in Sansara with my Bandit slotted underneath in the Blake...if not for the buy in. I might have ended up in Bellisseria but they upped the tier and dropped the fee for the additional 1024 BEFORE we found out about the new Linden Homes. (though they're not quite open plan enough for my needs and not quite enough LI)
On 5/30/2019 at 10:11 AM, Fushichou Mfume said:So the tiny 0.004% of rage-quit abandonments tells me that the vast majority of Belli homes are owned by long established accounts (regardless of whether they used a newer alt to stake a claim) who see Belli as a destination. Not a “starter”.
I could be interpreting the numbers wrong—but that’s my considered hunch.
You're not wrong, Bellisseria is Oldbie heavy, just head to the social hangouts down there.
On 5/30/2019 at 10:13 AM, Raspberry Crystal said:Topic title made me laugh because this is very accurate from my perspective. I've been looking for somewhere beautiful with a community feel for so long that I began to believe it couldn't exist. Patch in his interview, said that they knew Bellerissia would be popular, I'm still thinking they haven't quite got it themselves yet.
But it DOES exist, but it's either themed (like say Steampunk Caledon) or expensive like Bay City. I'm not sure they've quite figured out what they've got either.
LL, you just fulfilled the needs of your Gen-X Barbie Domestic Goddess XTREEM customers...and their partners. If I was you, I'd build off a "Bay City-ish" island off to the side, not directly connected, except maybe by a long over-water road (a la key west with the road built up high enough so boats can go under it) or by boat or small plane. Put the Bay City style social infrastructure there. Fairgrounds, a bowling alley, a retro classy club (like the Seraph Club in old Seraph City), a coffee shop, a diner, parks. They don't even have to be "real businesses", heck put the Bay City folks in charge of it, Call it something like Bella Village think some place like Amity Island in Jaws. This is the place that can have a halloween bash, or 4th of july fireworks and regatta. While Bellisserria does have The Squishy Pickle's, pools, small parks and whatnot, it's not really usable because no-rez and the Linden Homes can stay Linden Homes. Think of "Bella Village" as the "main street" for Bellisseria
On 5/30/2019 at 10:13 AM, Kitten Kaos said:But yes the popularity of Bellisseria, esp. with us olds should be telling them something about how to approach land management elsewhere and I'm not sure they are really hearing us.
They're probably trying to figure out how to approach it, wondering if it's a "Flash in the pan" that the excitement will die down and the groups go inactive and people become silent in their homes and skyboxes above them again. I think some of the excitement will die down...but...the old Linden homes didn't have resident run groups set up like this, or people opening up their homes as "open houses", or organizing info and setting up a website. This is a community..it may quiet down, but I think it's here to stay in the same way Bay City has stayed.
On 5/30/2019 at 12:07 PM, Female Winslet said:What’s been in most demand? House boats. That seems to tell LL something about the demand for access to water.
To make the demand even more obvious, we see that Bellisaria and the surrounding area have become crazy busy places for both sailing and flying, much like the Blake Sea. Why? Because the area around Bellissaria is one of only two places in the entire grid that are safe to fly and the only one that lets you check out the land from above.
LL said they wanted to create a space with community. And what are people praising about Bellissaria? Community.
LL is getting a clear message that this is what their customers want. And what they tried to do is working. Seems to me that it would be smart to do more and to roll out what they can from this experience to the rest of mainland. This experience is giving clear indications of how to go about revitalizing and bringing back to life the rest of the mainland.
Yep, they want zoned pleasant looking neighborhoods with friendly oldbie neighbors, some place they don't have to fuss too much with a build but can just put out decorations, furnishings and maybe a modular add-on or too. Where they can head a couple of sims over to a pool, or Squishy Pickle and chat with friends, or visit an open-house coffeehouse. They want the Rose-colored-glasses version of mid-century-living. And a cheaper alternative to the marina/boating life of the Blake.
Though a suggestion for the Houseboaters in Bellisseria, start working on organizing like the Blake boaters. The land folks have got off to a good start, but you could start doing mini-regattas, or discussions of neat boat addons or other things related to boating.
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2 hours ago, Prokofy Neva said:
You're merely reiterating why the economy continues to limp, because of people's hidebound ideologies that somehow advertising is evil, unsightly, crass, etc.
The SL economy is limping? Are you sure about that? Could there be parts that are limping and other parts that aren't? Do any of us have any real hard numbers, I don't think so.
QuoteNo, I'm not reading into anything, when the people who send driverless cars all over SL, or obsess about sim seams and travel, or about railroads and the need for more of them, are all people with world scope and world control ambitious accordingly.
Railroads and pods aren't "control" in a world with direct teleporting. While I consider you-know-who's pods tacky, they don't get used much. I'm all in favor of more railroads, since those are in general Linden infrastructure. I think your economic views cause you to see things in terms of "power" when that doesn't apply to SL. Because SL isn't RL. A land baron or communiity group may claim to have power, but the real power is LL. You worried about some individual having world control ambitions? Well technically any resident has zero power, w are just allowed the "illusion" of power and the ability to earn L$. We really ought to start thinking of ourselves not as "Residents" with "power", but as "Users" with none. IMHO they should never have called us Residents, it caused some of use to become too psychologically invested and think of ourselves as "Citizens with a vote" instead of just users.
QuoteAgain, there was no popular demand for Windlight/the new thing, EEK or whatever it's called.
Are you sure about that? We all have our interests and we might not notice something that isn't in our "spheres of interest"
QuoteIf you think photos showing hugely large breasts and biceps and so on and overly hyper-fashionated people are somehow a good advertisement for SL, you're not realizing that it's only one demographic and those photos may not even be the best way even to get in that demographic.
Depends on the pictures, but the Avatar Vanity demographic is large and they do something that you like people to do in SL. Spend Money. Lots of Money. I spent $170 US$ just on improving my avatar in my first 12 days in SL back in 2006, and I have hit the buy L$ button many many times since then. I'm also premium.
Those girly-girls and couples filling up their Bellisseria homes with cute gacha'd tchotchkes and putting in cute gazebos or gardens and taking pictures are good PR for SL. Improved Windlight helps make said pictures prettier.
QuoteThey need to *create the conditions for* all business.
But they have! It might not be in the way you want them to, but they have done so. Plenty of businesses make money in SL.
Quotethat would not be me, as by definition, anyone with Mainland sims can't be a baron
Sure you can, because most people, including me, use the term "Land Baron" for anyone who owns a goodly amount of land who then rents it out to others.
QuoteI don't think it's normal to pay three years or fives years in advance for $72/year for a place you don't log into. Something else must explain it.
They don't pay in advance, they just get billed once a year and a once a year $72 payment is no big deal to them. No other explanation needed.
QuoteOtherwise Anshe Chung would not be gone from SL
What? As far as I know her company still operates in SL.
QuoteAdvertising in RL enables people to find products they want and the same is true of SL. There already is advertising in SL but it is ineffective and insufficient.
Perhaps, but you'd have to convince businesses to advertise in SL when it hasn't worked all that well in the past. And we also live in a world where and SL business can start it's own blog or use flickr for promotional purposes...and in the SL fashion world...they do.
QuoteGood advertising is esthetically pleasing. There's no reason why it can't be had in SL as in RL. Essentially, the Lindens already used Strawberry Singh for their own advertising of SL itself, and now we learn she's an employee. There's absolutely no reason not to have that kind of quality in advertising, and that can be had by having rules and encouraging talent. But first the space has to be opened up.
That's a very good point you have made. So I'll say this, I'd support a pilot program of in-world advertising, to see if it is practical and how well it works. If it does, then it can be expanded.
1 hour ago, Qie Niangao said:But advertising in SL has never been effective -- least of all, in-world advertising -- and I haven't seen what revolution would make it suddenly start working.
Which was one of the reasons I said what I did to Prok.
32 minutes ago, Theresa Tennyson said:The shores of the virtual Alang Beach are covered with the chopped-up hulks of virtual worlds that are better technically, better financed and/or cheaper than Second Life, and yet Second Life survives.
Yes, SL is the queen and champeen and has bested all comers for reasons. And one of them is that while other worlds may have had advantages or done certain things better than SL...they didn't do EVERYTHING that SL does.
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11 hours ago, Gopi Passiflora said:
I wouldn't, although I could imagine what that would be like.
That's what Flickr is for.
6 hours ago, Nextio said:In my opinion though, Flickr is still superior when it comes to photo sharing and detailed information. The only problem with Flickr is that it's not popular within the social media world. It's basically in it's own sphere and your audience is smaller. There's also the upload limit too which sucks if you upload a lot.
Flickr IS popular with the SL fashion/pixel vanity community. And while Flickr free users are limited to their most recent 1000 photos, that's still a lot...and quite a few of the SL fashion/pixel vanity community has gone Pro with their Flickr accounts which removes that limit.
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9 hours ago, Jo Yardley said:
perhaps the option to start a chat and/or send messages/notes to only one role in stead of to everyone in a group,
That Functionality already exists with Calling Cards. Set up folders of your Roles, put the calling cards of the people with those Roles in those folders. Right click the folder and select "start conference chat"
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On 5/30/2019 at 11:19 PM, Prokofy Neva said:
I've always been very clear on what the Lab needs to do:
1. Increase capacity for inworld advertising by restoring ads at infohubs or any kind of Linden gathering place.
2. Increase Linden roadside billboards where ads also can be purchased.
3. Enables ads and rotating store spaces at newbie landing places.
No, just no. The only people using billboards now are tacky mainland businesses living in the past. And besides who uses infohubs in a world of direct teleporting? Did you just time travel from 2004? And roadside billboards when you later say region crossings aren't important?
And ads and store spaces at newbie landing places? But that would create a favored class, by routing newbies to whatever store or baron stuck in 2004 placed ads there. And who decides on the ads? If it's first come first serve, it would end up like Land did there for a while, with predatory businesses, buying up ads with bots or something.
Besides, a lot of people are fed up with being swarmed with advertising in RL, maybe they want to see less of it in SL?
Quote4. Just as there is a section on the forums to advertise land, have a section to advertise new products or services. And enhance the ability to advertise land on the MP, which is now expensive and annoying.
That might not be a bad idea
Quoteo No one cares about sim seams -- this is a geek obsession and the obsession of certain megalomaniacs with world-building ambitions to control people. Most users to not drive or ride enough to care.
World buidling ambitions? Control people? I think you're reading too much into things. And what about the masses of people in Bellisseria and the Blake Sea with their boats?
Quoteo The new windlight is not something the public demanded, but again, a small set of geeks and artists for their own needs/wants. It's about to bring havoc and tears.
Grinding the axe against geeks again? The pictures that those artists take are good PR for SL!
QuoteThe Lindens don't really care about inworld business, except for a few large big revenue groups of landlords or breedable creators. And it shows. It means they don't encourage medium and small business and then don't have customers themselves.
So you want LL to "fete" and show favoritism to business? To show favoritism to your business? Why should small mainland land barons still trying to live in the SL of 2005 receive favoritism? LL takes a hands off approach for a reason, and you of all people should know why. It's so they don' t get accused of creating a "Favored Inner Core", lets call it "FIC", pronounced like "Bic" as in the pen, because it's "In-ner" not "eye-ner". And what about the people who don't own businesses? And you can't say LL doesn't encourage economic activity when Marketplace is a thing!
On 5/31/2019 at 5:24 PM, Prokofy Neva said:So what's up? The Lindens gave away free premium accounts? They keep billing a credit card on file and the people never notice and stop it? They're dead? All a mystery...
Not a mystery, it's people who keep their account because they might log in rarely, but like the thought of having a place of their own whenever they want it. After all, the premium fee was only $72 a year...not much in the age of netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime and MMO subscriptions
QuoteSee, this is why SL continues to fail. Very vocal forums geeks with very deep-rooted ideas about economic systems continue to lobby the Lindens to make their ideal, socialist unicorn world.
if those people are lobbying Lindens to creat a socialist unicorn world, they've failed. Because SL has a ton of economic activity EVERY SECOND.
QuoteLL itself doesn't live in that socialist world; they live in the real world of capitalism. So it's hard to justify why businesses within SL can't live in that real world, too, which means advertising and profits.
Because it's tacky, and people are burned out over being overwhelmed with advertising in RL. Besides, SL is not RL no matter how much you want it to be. And plenty of businesses in SL make profit in the SL we have today. We don't need tacky signs at infohubs spamming newbies who don't know any better.
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17 hours ago, Daniel Voyager said:A major new development going on now far south of the SSP regions (original ones).
Looks to be more houseboats from the looks of things.
A few Moles working lol
Well now, that makes sense. Glad you're keeping an eye on the SSP's
17 hours ago, Patch Linden said:Uh oh.... Operation squishy pickle has been found!
You cannot hide from us! We also have pitchforks and torches. 😉
17 hours ago, fairlyprincess said:is there a name for this new development yet? : )
I would lay money on that eventually becoming "Belliseria City" with an airport and marina.
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Not my parcel, but I found a parcel with this issue while exploring, parcel belongs to KeyundreCarter Resident. That should be enough for LL to find the parcel and help the owner.
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In regards to decision making by LL, it doesn't matter what the rules of accounting are regarding how things show up on the ledgers, because LL knows that the Land Barons are middle men. SL is an almost entirely trickle-up economy. The important people aren't the Land Barons....it is the people who pay the meters of the Land Barons...the socializers. It is the social scene underlying the land barons that pays LL's bills, not to mention their cut from the Lindex, their cut from Marketplace, and their cut from creators cashing out. Where does that L$ come from? The Socializers. Bakes on mesh, Bento, and mesh itself...all there to make the shoppity-shop socializers happy. You make them happy, the Barons and the creators are happy from the L$. There's a reason why LL hired Strawberry Singh, LL knows who the real customer is, and as I said it isn't the Land Barons.