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    Wanting to become a Decorator. Need Pricing Help please.

    in Merchants

    Posted

    iCade wrote:

    Thank you all kindly for all the responses!

    And thank you so much Sassy for the incredibly detailed and explanatory post, it pinpointed exactly why I have been asking this question. Most people I know and have come across think 300L for a well made outfit is too expensive because they've been spoiled by merchants selling nice outfits for 150L and below.

    Me? I have bought several holo deck scenes at 2000L each, makes my friends jaw drop, but the incredible quality and detail is worth every linden if not more than what I paid for them. I did get a nice discount however because I contacted the maker wanting to purchase many at once. I gladly accepted it, but would have not asked if I hadn't been offered it.

    I was however hesitant to believe there's other peope thinking like me and while I was asking for hourly rates/plot size prices I of course had some in mind, but those were practically underselling.
    I was thinking of charging 1000L for landscaping/terraforming a parcel the size of mine (4096 sqm) but considering the eight hours I spent on mine that doesn't justify it.
    I am a stickler for detail and want to make the most of the space available. I think it through, plan it out, landscape and prowl the catalog for hours on the side for the perfect little somethings to add.

    So I will definitely do what you said Sassy, I'll not have set rates, but more of a "Landscaping starting at 1000L." sort of business and deciding/haggling on a price until both sides are satisfied with the deal.

    IMO that is too cheap for a 4096 sqm plot (1K)...you're underselling yourself. I wouldn't flinch if you asked for 3k based on the quality of your work.

    Wanting to become a Decorator. Need Pricing Help please.

    in Merchants

    Posted

    From those photos, you're certainly talented and have an eye for landscaping (you'd be surprised at the number of Landowners that are clueless in that area!). Develop a Portfolio of all your completed projects....you can buy one of those Thinc catalogs and insert your photos.

    I think you should have 2 rate cards and be flexible in using either one depending on project and type of customer.  I would do one based on land size......and another one based on hourly rates.

    If you build items on the land, like waterfalls, fountains etc ....on top of your landscaping services....then you can charge more.

     

    Pricing in Second Life is very difficult! There are no standards!

    What you might normally charge 2-3k for , another person might do the same project for peanuts. It's the same when selling content...you'll see similar quality of houses being sold for as little as 250 L....and as much as 2,3 or 4k. My advice is don't undersell yourself....if you're good at what you do....then charge accordingly. Peanuts won't pay your Tiers or material costs!

    How did the universe come into existence?

    in General Discussion Forum

    Posted

    Ceka Cianci wrote:

    Charolotte Caxton wrote:

    That last statement of mine is flawed, because our world could exist without us. I still think we are part of nature though. Maybe.
    :P

    i'm not saying we are not part of nature..i am saying we just think we are better than nature on this planet..

    the only way that could be possible is with intelligence like ours..we know there is a nature..nothing else on the planet does..

    and also because humans are well known for their egos hehehehe

     

    Life exists on Earth because of our perfect positioning within our Solar system relative to the Sun.... where it's not too hot for life forms, not too cold, less poisonous gasses, more solid matter (rock,earth).....allows for water, a climate and most important because of the Sun. The light and heat from the sun makes it possible for the life to be created and supported.(your Nature)

     

    I'm guessing other life forms exists in other solar systems & galaxies ...where the climatic conditions are balanced.

    The resident who provided the previous content, if any, has replaced it with this generic statement.

    in General Discussion Forum

    Posted

    Griffin Ceawlin wrote:

    This just in:

     

     

    Normally if the results were flat, they at least could pick out some figures and show improvement or growth, but these  gradual downward trends are now so obvious, its really hard to manipulate the figures....especially the key ones like Land mass & concurrency.

    No more transparency. (or fudged figures)

    REALLY Sick of discrimination against child avatars

    in General Discussion Forum

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    Arkady Arkright wrote:

    Now that I've discovered that you have a commercial interest in the continued existence of child avatars I understand you better...

    Well it didn't take long for someone to think that's my only horse in the race.! (I mean it's pretty obvious from the photos in the signature right?)

    There are some Avatar forms i don't find visually appealing e.g a slave person being collared and made to walk along all fours and dragged along via a chain by a Master . That is not my cup of tea.....but by the same token, i wouldn't dream in suggesting they should all be banned from the Grid because i find it degrading.!

    ...and before you jump to more conclusions, I own a Fetish Mall too...but it doesn't mean i have to like all the products being sold there or the type of clientele ....it's just business!

    REALLY Sick of discrimination against child avatars

    in General Discussion Forum

    Posted

    Drake1 Nightfire wrote:

    I was flipping through the MP when i came across a store selling childrens clothing... or what they claim is childrens clothing. The avs in the pics were NOT children. They had cleavage and very sexy shapes. The clothing is such that i would expect to see it on Ladies in the Red Light district. Hip huggers, micro bikinis, torn tights/leggings, Chest shading, and mini skirts.... I have 2 daughters, ages 7 and 9, they do not have curves nor do the have an adults upper body. I have seen these clothes on some kid avs inworld. With the shading they dont look like kids anymore.

    Perhaps this could be the cause of some of the "discrimination"?

     

    Female kids shapes shouldn't have cleavages....obviously a creator that is not very experienced in creating them. One can flag those products...if the photo displays are not appropriate or a correct representation.

    REALLY Sick of discrimination against child avatars

    in General Discussion Forum

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    Porky Gorky wrote:

    Rene Erlanger wrote:

    Being narrow-minded and practising discimination.......is nothing to be proud of! I'll happily be described as "intolerant" of such folk.

    Sounds like you are living in a political correctness bubble. I prefer to live my life based on common sense and my own experience rather than just towing the PC line. My own experience has led me to discriminate against certain groups....

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    Not  necessarily.....my approach is quite different to you, as I prefer to judge people on individual merits and what is presented in front of me....and not their grouping that they're attached to. I'm comfortable with my abilitiy to make my own analysis....and hopefully a correct one!

    REALLY Sick of discrimination against child avatars

    in General Discussion Forum

    Posted

    Arkady Arkright wrote:

    That's not "Discrimination", it's "expressing a point of view which is different to Rene's'".  You're the one who's being 'narrow-minded' in not accepting that different viewpoints can exist.

    Of course it discriminating....as some people are questioning why Second Life should allow child avatars on the grid in the first instance. if that isn't discriminating...I don't know what is! Next they'll be targetting furries.

    REALLY Sick of discrimination against child avatars

    in General Discussion Forum

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    Faye Feldragonne wrote:

    The children in SL that I've seen are "glammed" up and look sexualized. That's the problem for me. None I've seen really look like children but those kids in pageants, or worse. So that's where I'm coming from. Just see them so sexy looking, even false eyelashes.

    People controlling the child avatars tend to jump and skip and run around vying for attention. I've had them beg, cry, ask me to be their mommy. It's just annoying. I'm sure there are those who don't do that, but it's just what I've seen.

    Finally, there's just too much sex, and *kinky sex,* in SL in my mind to have children avatars there.The idea of a family there is fine, but they are adults not children and I can't dispell the reality. A friend of mine knew of a child avatar that ended up with the father of this family. The girl changed her avatar to an adult  after but, basically stole her mother's husband. Too much drama for me.

    If you're happy being a child in Second Life, then you shouldn't really care what people think about it, but it's just a subject that brings out strong opinions.

    You are not well informed then....we've been producing & selling Kids avatar skins for over 3 years.....none of our skins have a hint of make-up...because we don't believe kids, particularly girls of the ages of 3 to 7 should be wearing make-up. We're sold 1000's of these skins over the years.....so obviously there are 1000's of those little girl avatars that are not "glammed-up" to the eyebrows! There are other skin creators that provide  Kids skins without make-up...like Robin Sojourner.(Kick the Can skins)

    The too much sex or kinky sex as you put it.....should be designated to the Adult regions, especially if it's open to the public...and no Child Avatar should be in the close vacinity, let alone being on that Sim.

    Do you have the same strong feelings and fears everytime you walk past a Kindergarten or Primary school? Do you worry and wonder about what adults are lurking around these schools.....or everytime you step into your car, do you worry whether you'll make home safely and not be involved in an accident?........My point is that you're giving yourself unnessary stress over events you cannot control!

    As long as one has the ability to reduce the Avatar heights below 4ft, it really doesn't matter whether Child Avatars are allowed in Second life or not.....these illegal acts can still be simulated on a land denying public access. It's impossible for LL to monitor the going-ons, of all such illegal activity (including gambling) on such a vast grid!  Of course i don't condone such illegal activities.....but one has to be realistic or find another online game to play!

    REALLY Sick of discrimination against child avatars

    in General Discussion Forum

    Posted

    Pussycat Catnap wrote:

     

    You cite a great example in your link to a scandal in 2007 that got all kinds of media attention. For one scandal. While other forms of misconduct go on day in and day out with no attention.
     

    That's quite true....for example zero media attention regarding the SL Banks or Stock Exchange scams .....whereby a ton of money was effectively stolen.

    Jason Farrell is a crappy investigative reporter who has a tendancy to sensationalise (He covered "Wonderland")...but it's Sky & Channel 5, so what should we expect?

    REALLY Sick of discrimination against child avatars

    in General Discussion Forum

    Posted

    Actually you're right Ceka....there are many Adult rated areas that are not sexually explicit....I'm thinking of those combat areas for example....but maybe all the blood and gore grades them as adult rated. ( the same stuff they can be viewed in several MMOGRP games by RL kids)

    If the masses are crying for "blood" and we have to ostracize the Children community....then maybe the Adult Regions should be the only no-go areas. (a sacrifice to be made to the masses (of ignorants) !!! :matte-motes-wink-tongue:)

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